Salary Cap Update. 10m under as of 3/27

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There's some names in there I wouldn't mind giving a 1-2 year deal to. It wouldn't hurt and could help bolster the defense.
I just hate when Cowboys fans say that there is no one left to sign when we didn't make a run at any FAs to begin with OR they say we didn't have the cap space when we STILL have 40m in easily and painlessly attainable space AFTER we signed our FA class and re-signed our own guys

Neither excuse hold water under even the slightest bit of investigation

The Cowboys FO has made a deliberate decision to appear cap poor and to solely rely on very cheap FAs and the Draft as the only way to build the roster......... they aren't doing it because it has been successful in the past for us.......they are trying to a make a point that they are not only better but smarter instead of just settling for at least one bought and paid for Lombardi this millennium
 

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So my not rueing Nick Perry and TJ McDonald is Stockholm Syndrome? Oh noes.

Sweden is nice in the Spring at least.

burgerking telling us that we are traumatized because we prefer not to build in FA gets old. Didn't take long for the usual subjects to turn the thread into this.
 

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My point is that guys like you that know nothing about contracts always pop off about the 'salary cap' from an uneducated perspective and I was just shining some light on the subject

With 3 pen-strokes DAL is 27 under the cap without even touching Romo........so all this kvetching about having no money to sign anyone is a such a joke

41m under the cap and not one person to spend it on to improve the D

You guys are the definition of Stockholm Syndrome....... love your captors because the alternative is so unthinkable

In other words, this organization is just being cheap.......................not that I am surprised
 

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It is the best way but not the only way

A couple big FAs even if they are overpriced is better than Mayowa, Heath and Carroll

Agreed...............yes, the draft is how you build a team, but signing a big FA here and there helps get you over the hump.

A team that only uses the draft to acquire talent is missing out, all avenues should be used. Apparently Steven Jones only wants to use one avenue at this time, that is unfortunate.

The reason this team goes one and done almost every time it makes the playoffs is because the defense lacks talent. If you look at the current defense we have as of today, even if you add some really good rookies, it does not come close to looking like a championship caliber defense.

Until that changes, seasons will keep ending prematurely............just like they have for the last 20 years.
 

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I just hate when Cowboys fans say that there is no one left to sign when we didn't make a run at any FAs to begin with OR they say we didn't have the cap space when we STILL have 40m in easily and painlessly attainable space AFTER we signed our FA class and re-signed our own guys

Neither excuse hold water under even the slightest bit of investigation

The Cowboys FO has made a deliberate decision to appear cap poor and to solely rely on very cheap FAs and the Draft as the only way to build the roster......... they aren't doing it because it has been successful in the past for us.......they are trying to a make a point that they are not only better but smarter instead of just settling for at least one bought and paid for Lombardi this millennium

Everybody couldn't wait for Stephen to take over....................well, be careful what you wish for.

Stephen, unlike Jerry, is not going to spend lavishly on any players. We are going to sign cheap vet free agents and build through the draft. Maybe Stephen doesn't want to spend his inheritance, I don't know, but he has a totally different view point on how to build a team from Jerry.

I guess we shall see how it goes.
 

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I just hate when Cowboys fans say that there is no one left to sign when we didn't make a run at any FAs to begin with OR they say we didn't have the cap space when we STILL have 40m in easily and painlessly attainable space AFTER we signed our FA class and re-signed our own guys

Neither excuse hold water under even the slightest bit of investigation

The Cowboys FO has made a deliberate decision to appear cap poor and to solely rely on very cheap FAs and the Draft as the only way to build the roster......... they aren't doing it because it has been successful in the past for us.......they are trying to a make a point that they are not only better but smarter instead of just settling for at least one bought and paid for Lombardi this millennium

if we have signed wagner for RT and bouye/gilmore for CB, we could have focused the entire draft on getting war daddies.
now we got bunch of scrap heap garbage in the CB from Philly and the RT with the broken ankle...
 

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Agreed...............yes, the draft is how you build a team, but signing a big FA here and there helps get you over the hump.

A team that only uses the draft to acquire talent is missing out, all avenues should be used. Apparently Steven Jones only wants to use one avenue at this time, that is unfortunate.

The reason this team goes one and done almost every time it makes the playoffs is because the defense lacks talent. If you look at the current defense we have as of today, even if you add some really good rookies, it does not come close to looking like a championship caliber defense.

Until that changes, seasons will keep ending prematurely............just like they have for the last 20 years.

yep, the foundation was built, but the bean counter cannot shift gears.
the team is ready and the FO cannot stop being cheap.
 

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and if they did like the available passrushers, then definitively address the CB and RT position.
that would allow the draft to go after 2-3 passrushers.
imagine if we can do some draft trading.
for example trade up
or some of trading to get watt, rivers and willis - our chance of getting a single rookie contributing would be much better.

Jerry doesnt have great success trading up. And landing a prime pass rusher that will kill it this season with the 28th pick doesnt sound reasonable. IF they had managed the cap better, they could have nabbed one of the Arizona guys and been done with it. The draft could have been used sure up the secondary and there you have it.
 

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well they may really have thought none of the DEs were any good.
that would be a reasonable position.
but then why not nail down at least a CB and RT first by FA
then go all passrusher for the draft

Either way, will you agree that its not likely we win a SB until we get a good to great pass rush?
 

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Jerry doesnt have great success trading up. And landing a prime pass rusher that will kill it this season with the 28th pick doesnt sound reasonable. IF they had managed the cap better, they could have nabbed one of the Arizona guys and been done with it. The draft could have been used sure up the secondary and there you have it.

they could easily have fit the 30 year old arizona guy.
even i say no thank you.
 

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Either way, will you agree that its not likely we win a SB until we get a good to great pass rush?

there is what my post is about.
it appears they did not think any of the FA DEs are worth getting.
in that case, nail down 2 other positions and go nuts in the draft on DEs whether it is trading up or taking 7 DEs for all i care.
 

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That is the best way.

Overpaying in FA isn't.

Best way, sure. The purest way. But when other teams are using the other two ways and we arent, it makes it hard to keep up or overcome on a consistent basis. We havent been able to solve the pass rush problem in 3 years trying ONLY the draft. And we arent winning squat until we do. So how is it going to get solved? Not drafting at the 28th spot and hoping.

We all look down on FA because the Cowboys have used it sooo poorly in the past with big ticket players like Carr. But other teams use it well and use it wisely. But if the Cowboys arent confident in themselves in FA, then by all means dont do it.

In my opinion, FA if for window teams, or for teams that have sooo much room, like the Jags, that they need to become competitive.

A window opens up when you have a contender type team and need one more big piece or two. The Cowboys are there now. So every year we dont find a pass rusher, is another wasted year in my opinion. Now if Romo was the QB and we had no Dak, I wouldnt even bother signing any big name guys.
 

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How do you easily fit someone with money you dont have?

we have been routinely restructuring tcrawford and dez, which we did not do this year.
that could have opened up 13M
year 1 cap impact for campbell is less than 10M
plenty of cap dollars in 2018 and beyond
 

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there is what my post is about.
it appears they did not think any of the FA DEs are worth getting.
in that case, nail down 2 other positions and go nuts in the draft on DEs whether it is trading up or taking 7 DEs for all i care.

NO, that is your assumption that they didnt feel that way.

The reality is that they have mismanaged the cap soooo poorly that in order to sign a guy like that it would create salary cap hell for another few years.

Giving a guy a low base salary in order to "easily fit" him in is NOT managing the cap properly. That is what teams do that DONT have the proper cap space.
 

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we have been routinely restructuring tcrawford and dez, which we did not do this year.
that could have opened up 13M
year 1 cap impact for campbell is less than 10M
plenty of cap dollars in 2018 and beyond

You obviously dont get it bra. Restructuring contracts is mismanaging the cap and stealing from future years. That is what they HAVE to do in order to just squeak by every year.

If you need a solid education on just how poorly the Cowboy managed the cap there are plenty of articles out there with stats and numbers done by professionals paid to do so. Let me know if you need help finding them.
 

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NO, that is your assumption that they didnt feel that way.

The reality is that they have mismanaged the cap soooo poorly that in order to sign a guy like that it would create salary cap hell for another few years.

Giving a guy a low base salary in order to "easily fit" him in is NOT managing the cap properly. That is what teams do that DONT have the proper cap space.

there is no more cap hell.
not with the way cap goes up every year.
the teams combined will have 2.1 billion dollars of cap space in 2018
 

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we have been routinely restructuring tcrawford and dez, which we did not do this year.
that could have opened up 13M
year 1 cap impact for campbell is less than 10M
plenty of cap dollars in 2018 and beyond

We did NOT restructure anyone this year? No wonder. You are definitely completely misinformed.
 
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