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big dog cowboy said:
Should have been taken at 38 and got lucky after rolling the dice he was still there at 69.
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Its also a reminder that a lot of scouting reports are nonsense. Not only was Witten rated as the 2nd or 3rd round pick but some scouts questioned his toughness. Fast forward to today - one of the pictures hanging in the new practice facility is the iconic picture of Witten against Philly running downfield without a helmet, looking for contact.
 
CT Dal Fan said:
I would think Precott would have to win a few Super Bowls for this to be the best draft under Jones. The 1989 haul of Troy Aikman, Daryl Johnston, Mark Stepnoski, and Tony Tolbert comes to my mind as the best; followed closely by 1991.
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I don't know man.... If Jaylan and Zeke hit their potential........ You're talking about three perennial all pro guys in one draft. That's unheard of.
 
rynochop said:
I can't figure out which draft pics are Jerrys and which aren't. I know the draft pics he wanted to make but Didn't or couldn't and those pics failed are his, so I get that. But the pics that work out I'm totally lost, Stephen and the puppet coach I guess talked him out of drafting
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They're all his picks. He has final say on every single pick. If he's talked into a pick, it's still his decision to change his mind.
 
Alexander said:
Do you understand how idiotic this comment is?

Give the same man who craved Quincy Carter and Johnny Manziel, yet we should "give him credit" for missing on a trade for Lynch and succeeding in securing Dak Prescott's rights?

Joe Fan off the street could have identified Lynch as a good prospect. He felt so strongly with his expert eye about him that he got cold feet and did not sweeten the trade to Seattle to get him.

And if you think stumbling upon Prescott when the strategy has long gone out of the draft process, I don't know what to tell you.

If Prescott is the next big thing, it was not skill, namely Jones having an "eye". It was like it was with Romo, a case of being extremely fortunate because someone else did the homework.
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I disagree. The Cowboys were linked to Prescott long before draft day. Now whether they knew he'd be this good is debatable. But they made sure to interview him again after getting the DUI. That's not to say that they thought maybe Lynch was better. Maybe they did. And maybe he is. They surely didn't "stumble" on him.
 
reddyuta said:
Jerry gets zero credit here.Credit goes to lLnehan and our coaching staff who were enamored with him from Senior bowl.Jerry wanted to draft 5 other Qbs and had to "settle" for Dak.
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This logic makes no sense. He tried to draft Qbs based on value. It made no sense to draft Dak in the 2nd round. The consensus was Dak was a 4th rounder.
 
Joe Realist said:
49ers thought they were set with Kap too,
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And there's the Eagles fan. Must be killing you.

Kap did well running a gimmicky offense, same as Griffin in Washngton. Neither ever looked anything like what Dak has looked the first two weeks in a pretty standard offense. They never could read the field like Prescott has shown.

However, it is still only two preseason games, so we will have to wait and see.
 
Dallas is benefiting from the fact that college quarterbacks are impossible to evaluate fully because they run those childish offenses. It makes projecting them in the NFL really tough to do.
 
Kaiser said:
Its also a reminder that a lot of scouting reports are nonsense. Not only was Witten rated as the 2nd or 3rd round pick but some scouts questioned his toughness. Fast forward to today - one of the pictures hanging in the new practice facility is the iconic picture of Witten against Philly running downfield without a helmet, looking for contact.
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There were "character concerns" if I'm not mistaken
 
AsthmaField said:
And there's the Eagles fan. Must be killing you.

Kap did well running a gimmicky offense, same as Griffin in Washngton. Neither ever looked anything like what Dak has looked the first two weeks in a pretty standard offense. They never could read the field like Prescott has shown.

However, it is still only two preseason games, so we will have to wait and see.
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Whoa now. I don't know about that. Kap and RGIII both have looked great. They don't look great now not because of their talent i'd credit it to how their organizations handled their careers but they have played some big time football in this league.
 
rocyaice said:
Whoa now. I don't know about that. Kap and RGIII both have looked great. They don't look great now not because of their talent i'd credit it to how their organizations handled their careers but they have played some big time football in this league.
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They weren't reading the defense and scanning the whole field like Romo, Brady, Brees, etc. do.

They both have struggled mightily since the NFL figured out how to slow down the read option stuff and make the QB's sit in the pocket and decipher the coverage.

Kap was struggling when Harbaugh was still there and they still had talent. After 2012 it has been a slow downward spiral for Kap. And as for Griff... he crashed and burned immediately following 2012.

Again, they led their teams to wins but they had preset targets and the catch 22 that the read option initially put defenses in played a really big role in opening up huge windows to throw in. Once Defenses figured that problem out and those two had to start playing real NFL QB style... they've sucked.

Prescott is doing everything that an NFL QB needs to do from reading defenses to throwing in tight windows.

Those two guys never played QB the way Dak has in his first two PS games.
 
NextGenBoys said:
Been saying since draft day he's our Russ Wilson
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They're somewhat similar in that Seattle took a liking to Russell Wilson pretty early during their scouting process for that draft. I remember their official radio station guys talking Wilson up quite a bit before the draft and them saying that people in the organization were extremely high on him. It was like they saw something that other teams didn't. I kinda feel like the Cowboys did the same thing with Dak.

As far as play styles, I see that comparison fairly often and I don't see it really. Dak is quite a bit bigger than Wilson is and seems to have a bit more of an arm. Coming out of college, I don't think Dak showed the accuracy that Russell Wilson showed (that doesn't seem to be an issue though whatsoever - he's been pinpoint accurate so far). He's not as quick as Russell Wilson is either.
 
Alexander said:
In a way, I kind of hope he is proven to be mortal.

There is some real dumb dialogue going on right now
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Alexander said:
In a way, I kind of hope he is proven to be mortal.

There is some real dumb dialogue going on right now about him taking Romo's job.
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He surely IS mortal and it's bound to sink in for all of us sooner or later, despite it being so greatly encouraging that his upside appears extremely promising at this early point in time.

The dialogue about him replacing Romo at this juncture is undoubtedly ill considered and premature to say the least. I'm really hopeful that Dak's development will be undertaken with the best of care by the staff to produce a smooth transition whenever the time is right.

In the meantime, some patience will be required from the vast majority of us who realize that rushing it could easily amount to an open invitation to disaster. I wouldn't be surprised if Dak were to come back to more earthbound impressions very soon, although it also seems quite apparent that we'll still feel very optimistic about the promise he holds in store with further development.
 
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I'm tired of hearing how Dak is only playing against vanilla defenses. This is true, and I've made that point, but it's also true for the rest of the rookies and veterans. Why aren't Goff and Lynch lighting it up then as well?
 
rocyaice said:
This logic makes no sense. He tried to draft Qbs based on value. It made no sense to draft Dak in the 2nd round. The consensus was Dak was a 4th rounder.
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Although that is true, the point is Dak turned out to be Jones' 5th option. He most certainly would have chosen Goff or Wentz with the 4th pick if available. Then he tried to move back into the first round to get Lynch. Even had his sights on Cook in later rounds only to be taken as well. Heck who knows if Hackenberg was also on the radar but was taken in the 2nd round by the idiot Jets. But settled on Dak in the 4th round and history was made.

So yeah give Jones & co some credit for selecting Dak, but luck on your side for not being able to pick the others. We shall see how it turns out but I think he may have hit a gusher.
 
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