Schefter: Commanders sign Fabini to 1yr contract

iceberg

rock music matters
Messages
34,404
Reaction score
7,932
Bob Sacamano;1436463 said:
that's the thing, Fabini wasn't brought in here to do anything notable, yet everyone is crying like we made a mistake, we didn't w/ Fabini, not much was expected of him, same w/ Petitti, I don't rule low-risk additions who don't pan out as mistakes, as they aren't expected to do much

then he did his job well and should have gotten a raise.
 

Bob Sacamano

Benched
Messages
57,084
Reaction score
3
iceberg;1436462 said:
and i'm sure they're out there somewhere providing valuable competition and insurance for someone.

as for "let go" - oh well. there's only so many you can keep to begin with. we'll see in a few years who's still on the line and who's been replaced and we can see how the line performs at that time. till then, hard to compare.

:laugh2: Fabini will be 33 next year
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
Bob Sacamano;1436468 said:
well you have Hostile over here saying we made a mistake keeping Fabini over Petitti
...and a coaching staff who agreed.

:flex: baby :flex:
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
Bob Sacamano;1436481 said:
when you can't say anything else, resort to schtick
Fuzzy really got to you with that one didn't he? That's his line. Has been for years.
 

iceberg

rock music matters
Messages
34,404
Reaction score
7,932
Bob Sacamano;1436468 said:
he didn't

if he didn't have potential, why did parcells pick him? you give parcells credit for cutting him but not bringing him in. seems 1 sided to me.

well you have Hostile over here saying we made a mistake keeping Fabini over Petitti

i don't think it matters one way or another. neither were good "long term" but i'd have to say i'd have given petitti another year or two before calling him a bust. how many rookies start all games? also, if fabini wasn't a former parcells guy, i don't think parcells would have either brought him in OR kept him over petitti.

well he was drafted

and? so was skyler green.

Kosier was good last year

not bad and still has the best chance of all parcells picks on the OL to pan out.

i also don't buy the 4 of 5 on our OL to be 100% due to parcells.
 

junk

I've got moxie
Messages
9,294
Reaction score
247
Hostile;1436356 said:
I didn't know we released Fabini. When did that happen?

Man, what a waste if true. My biggest gripe about Parcells is his OL moves.

Ryan Young
Jason Fabini
Starting Petitti too soon, then releasing him to keep Fabini.
Jacob Rogers
Stephen Peterman
Torin Tucker
Marco Rivera

Did I miss any?


At almost every turn he blew it.

Why do you care about Petitti for Fabini? If Petitti was that much worse than a banged up, aging Fabini, I really don't think he has much upside in this league.
 

iceberg

rock music matters
Messages
34,404
Reaction score
7,932
superpunk;1436466 said:
We approve of the Arizona castoff (he is a REAL pick), but not the Detroit castoff.
Hmmmm....wonder why? :lmao2:

cause i like to see you giggle. it "moves" me.

for the terminally slow - who here heard of kosier before we got him? not many. davis was a high pick and still has potential. will he pan out? dunno. but i feel he's got a better chance than kosier. sorry that bugs ya.
 

Bob Sacamano

Benched
Messages
57,084
Reaction score
3
iceberg;1436495 said:
if he didn't have potential, why did parcells pick him? you give parcells credit for cutting him but not bringing him in. seems 1 sided to me.

he was a 6th round pick, and it's obvious to anyone that Petitti is too slow to hold up well in pass-protection

iceberg said:
i don't think it matters one way or another. neither were good "long term" but i'd have to say i'd have given petitti another year or two before calling him a bust. how many rookies start all games? also, if fabini wasn't a former parcells guy, i don't think parcells would have either brought him in OR kept him over petitti.

I'm not calling Petitti a bust, just he was a low-risk option that wasn't in our plans, time to move on

iceberg said:
and? so was skyler green.

ok, but that still doesn't collaborate your story that McQ wasn't on any team's draft board

iceberg said:
not bad and still has the best chance of all parcells picks on the OL to pan out.

i also don't buy the 4 of 5 on our OL to be 100% due to parcells.

I don't know where you're getting 4 out of 5 from

Flozell has been here since '98, Kosier was a Jeff Ireland selection, Gurode was here since '02, only 2 current linemen on the roster were due to BP, and even then Jeff Ireland had alot of input, as well as Stephen Jones into those decisions
 

theogt

Surrealist
Messages
45,846
Reaction score
5,912
iceberg;1436495 said:
if he didn't have potential, why did parcells pick him? you give parcells credit for cutting him but not bringing him in. seems 1 sided to me.
It might be the case that Parcells once thought he had potential, but after getting a year-long up close look, he decided otherwise. Seems pretty reasonable considering the absolutely dreadful performance he put up in 2006, rookie or not.

i also don't buy the 4 of 5 on our OL to be 100% due to parcells.
So Parcells gets credit for a veto over all of the coaches for decisions we disagree but doesn't get any credit for decisions we agree with. Mmmmmmmkay.
 

junk

I've got moxie
Messages
9,294
Reaction score
247
iceberg;1436413 said:
mcquistian is the only other move i know of. i also agree on petitti. maybe he was depth in the end, but he had a career ahead of him. fabini and rivera were bad moves from the start. one good place to address it is the draft but not many want to spend a 1st round pick on the line.

the game is won in the trenches, but we need to skimp on the line. go figure.

Teams rarely build good offensive lines through the early rounds of the draft.

You usually have to land a tackle early, but other than that, teams are able to find good players throughout the draft and through modest FA contracts.
 

Bob Sacamano

Benched
Messages
57,084
Reaction score
3
Hostile;1436505 said:
I've already mentioned this earlier in the thread.

I saw that, but it was a vague reference

can I see the link? I have a very good memory and I don't remember anyone saying that the staff thought releasing Petitti was a mistake
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
junk;1436499 said:
Why do you care about Petitti for Fabini? If Petitti was that much worse than a banged up, aging Fabini, I really don't think he has much upside in this league.
Mostly because I don't get my marching orders on what to care about from anyone. I know that usually chaps some peoples butts, but I can't help it. Call me non conformist. When I don't want a player (Fabini) and he is waived without ever contributing it makes me a little pissy. See Marcellus Wiley for reference. It is why I don't understand Commanders fans glee at getting a 6th rounder for Archuleta.
 

iceberg

rock music matters
Messages
34,404
Reaction score
7,932
junk;1436509 said:
Teams rarely build good offensive lines through the early rounds of the draft.

You usually have to land a tackle early, but other than that, teams are able to find good players throughout the draft and through modest FA contracts.

i can agree with this also. but i think having a "stud" on the line can't hurt. if we pick staley at 22 or drop down 3-4 and still get him. i'm happy.

if we go WR, i'm ok there also. i'm more BPA at this spot than anything, but i do put staley on the "serious consideration" lsit.
 
Top