Schefter today: growing sense Zeke short suspension **merged**

[LocimusPrime]

partying it up on a yacht in Miami with strippers, champagne, and (probably) cocaine

oh wait, that was Mara's team nvm

Yes sir that could also been seen as detrimental especially if you got some drug action in there. But if it's just crushed up adderal and some cocktail waitresses and instagram models, then it's not so bad. That's pretty much innocent.

 

[LandryFan]

Agreed 100%
People are getting "stuck" on the league having to prove a crime was committed. No crime needs to have been committed, just conduct detrimental to the league - anything behavior that has bad optics. I don't necessarily agree, but this was agreed upon by the union.




Perhaps getting escorted out of a mall or event for misbehaving or inappropriate behavior
Talking back to people with authority - I really hate back talkers
Listening to music too loud with your rolled down
Hanging out with felons or people known to LE as bad actors
Inappropriate tweets or messages on social media
Jay walking - which is a crime
Making videos with your boyz in da clubs and all I see is a bunch of dudes sitting at a VIP table with no chicks - this is an absolute no no. I'd suspended that player for a year minimum with no appeal

Yep. Goodell will continue to have the power to be judge, jury, and executioner until the NFLPA changes that in some future CBA. I don't like Goodell one bit, but I fault the NFLPA rather than Goodell. He's simply exercising/abusing the power he was granted.

 

[robbieruff]

This is yellow journalism at its finest. The dude first made these points completely out of context talking about fantasy football!!! Fielding questions about where he'd take Elliot in the fantasy draft. He made the suspension comment then and saw how much interest and crap it stirred up so now he's doubling down on those comments to enhance his relevance.

He's a disgrace to his profession but alas it is more and more the norm these days. Gotta get the clicks!!!

 

[LocimusPrime]

This is yellow journalism at its finest. The dude first made these points completely out of context talking about fantasy football!!! Fielding questions about where he'd take Elliot in the fantasy draft. He made the suspension comment then and saw how much interest and crap it stirred up so now he's doubling down on those comments to enhance his relevance.

He's a disgrace to his profession but alas it is more and more the norm these days. Gotta get the clicks!!!

I just clicked the like button for you.

 

[pugilist]

 

[DanManJ]

Good God this is really gonna happen isnt it? After all this time and no legal punishment from the law Zeke is going to be suspended. The NFL is a hot mess and they are going to keep seeing a drop in ratings because of their own foolishness.

 

[RS12]

 

[Bigdog]

Wouldn't it be ironic of EE gets suspended for the 1st game against the Giants but so does Eli for memorabilia fiasco. Mara would flip.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Newsflash, you are very wrong. And definitely love entitlement. Just because there are some laws (which STILL do not require a conviction) or a union doesn't change that it's entitlement.

And newsflash again. This particular union has an bargaining agreement explicitly saying that the league can do this.

And you apparently love oversimplification.

Powerful argument: I'm wrong because you said so.

BTW, feel free to post the title and section of the bargaining agreement that "explicitly" states what you just claimed. Don't skirt it; if you know it "explicitly" says that, then you should be able to point to it.

If you really think a private company can simply suspend an employee without pay for a certain period of time without valid basis or justification, then you're silly. They've got more standing terminating an at-will employee for no reason than they do to temporarily suspending without pay and no basis for doing so.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Wouldn't it be ironic of EE gets suspended for the 1st game against the Giants but so does Eli for memorabilia fiasco. Mara would flip.

They'll never suspend Eli. He's Mara's boy.

 

[CWR]

Yes sir that could also been seen as detrimental especially if you got some drug action in there. But if it's just crushed up adderal and some cocktail waitresses and instagram models, then it's not so bad. That's pretty much innocent.

Yet there are people on this board that think many here are whiny conspiracy theorists. That damn yacht got a hell of alot less coverage than Zekes balcony flashing. Id love to know the logic behind that.

 

[Kevinicus]

You just want to be right....

You got proven wrong, so you dig at little things like "you said he swore up and down"


All your posts in this thread reek of sensitivity and of an emotional little girl

Why do you continue to lie and then insult when you get called on it.

You said he said one thing and then posted him saying something entirely different.

Show some maturity.

 

[StylisticS]

Findings? LOL, what did the NFL find?

 

[Kevinicus]

And you apparently love oversimplification.

Powerful argument: I'm wrong because you said so.

BTW, feel free to post the title and section of the bargaining agreement that "explicitly" states what you just claimed. Don't skirt it; if you know it "explicitly" says that, then you should be able to point to it.

If you really think a private company can simply suspend an employee without pay for a certain period of time without valid basis or justification, then you're silly. They've got more standing terminating an at-will employee for no reason than they do to temporarily suspending without pay and no basis for doing so.

Obviously, it varies by State and other factors. None of that changes that it is a sense of entitlement. Especially your original nonsense of requiring a conviction. How much evidence in the NFL do you need to know that is not the case? Drugs testing, Brady, Big Ben and countless others. Because the CBA gives the NFL the authority to do so. It also gives the players a right to an appeal.

What I hate is that people feel they have a right to any job and that the employer shouldn't be able to decide when they don't want to continue that relationship.

The oversimplifying is whining about there being no conviction as the standard.

 

[Kevinicus]

Findings? LOL, what did the NFL find?

We don't know.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Obviously, it varies by State and other factors. None of that changes that it is a sense of entitlement. Especially your original nonsense of requiring a conviction. How much evidence in the NFL do you need to know that is not the case? Drugs testing, Brady, Big Ben and countless others. Because the CBA gives the NFL the authority to do so. It also gives the players a right to an appeal.

What I hate is that people feel they have a right to any job and that the employer shouldn't be able to decide when they don't want to continue that relationship.

The oversimplifying is whining about there being no conviction as the standard.

What are you blathering about?

Post the title and section of the bargaining agreement that "explicitly" states what you claimed.

 

[Bigdog]

They'll never suspend Eli. He's Mara's boy.

True but oh the irony if does happen.

 

[StylisticS]

We don't know.

I know we don't. Just posting in general. Not meant for anybody to respond. But it's weird they "found" something.

 

[revospeed]

If Zeke can get punished for an accumulation of things that makes the league look bad, I'd expect Jim Irsay to get a lifetime ban.

 

[Kevinicus]

What are you blathering about?

Post the title and section of the bargaining agreement that "explicitly" states what you claimed.

I don't need to. It's common knowledge, especially after Brady, what authority Goodell has. But that is also meaningless to your original statement which you have gotten so far away from.

It's typical around here. Someone says something, someone disagrees or points to a flaw or inaccuracy and so they start arguing completely new things to obfuscate what they originally said.

Your statement was an opinion about what the standard should be for the NFL to discipline. I hate the mentality that is borne from. Laws, NFL policy, etc. are irrelevant to that mentality.