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Schefter today: growing sense Zeke short suspension **merged**

Discussion in 'Overtime Zone' started by NorthwestDallas40, Jul 14, 2017.

  1. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    You seem to be the one lacking understanding of how the league works.

    The league does not have to meet a legal standard. The league also very likely does have more information than the authorities. The league is not really bound by external pressures that a prosecuting attorney would have. If prosecution thinks, given the police report and interviews, that they aren't going to be able to win a case, they stop investigating and move on. The league doesn't need to meet a legal standard. They don't need to worry about how a jury might view the case. They don't have any of those constraints.

    Also, all of you crying "but but he wasn't convicted" need to zip it. That's not the standard. A huge % of domestic violence cases never lead to prosecution (or conviction). Domestic abusers get away with it over and over and over. So let's not play the "no conviction" card. Y'all are better than that (unless you support beating women, then you aren't).
     
  2. AmericasTeam81

    AmericasTeam81 Well-Known Member

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    Dare I say, the NFL is biased?
     
  3. Boyzmamacita

    Boyzmamacita CowBabe Up!!! Zone Supporter

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    You would be foolish to eat their sandwiches since you just pissed them off.:laugh:
     
  4. Sydla

    Sydla Well-Known Member

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    I suspect it would fall under conduct unbecoming which doesn't carry any real set number of games, right?

    This is how it would go down IMO if it happens. NFL can't prove the DM happened and would find themselves in court if they tried to suspend him 6 games for a DM that was thrown out by police. But to save face, they say his behavior was over the top (pulling the girl's shirt down included) and hit him with a 2 game suspension.
     
  5. Kevinicus

    Kevinicus Well-Known Member

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    Wrong.
     
  6. AmericasTeam81

    AmericasTeam81 Well-Known Member

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    I believe that NFL fans in general and Cowboys fans in particular will become the jury sealing the NFL's fate if the they cross the line here by suspending Zeke. The league better thread lightly on this one and not come to a finding that meets a political motive.
     
  7. Kevinicus

    Kevinicus Well-Known Member

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    They are not above the law. They are not held to the same standards though, as they are not throwing people in jail, just determining what their employment status is with their private business.
     
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  8. aria

    aria Well-Known Member

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    I heard Mara and DB Cooper have been setting up Zeke for the past year specifically for the first game against the Giants since he destroyed them in the first two games.

    In the meantime Jerry, Blandino, and Santa Claus have already discussed when and which penalties to call against the Giants to counter the suspension.
    I believe you're good at lying and putting words in my mouth. All I ever said was we MAY NOT KNOW EVERYTHING. Comprende?

    If they suspend him and all they have is what we know then I'll be livid but for now there has been nothing except a dragged out investigation that is 100%, without a doubt, due to Mara, Goodell and Superman.

    Is there anything else you'd like to say for me?
     
  9. Sydla

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    The no conviction card is pretty powerful. The fact he didn't get convicted and there was little to no evidence to lead to his conviction is why the NFL couldn't and wouldn't suspend him for 6 games.
     
  10. Kevinicus

    Kevinicus Well-Known Member

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    Fixed it for you.
     
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  11. UDcowboysfan

    UDcowboysfan Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you, my point was that he actually did that...if you suspend him for the other one that was completely proved to be false then go to hell NFL.

    Respectfully,
     
  12. Kevinicus

    Kevinicus Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I think if there is any discipline, it will be from the boob thing.
     
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  13. mattjames2010

    mattjames2010 Well-Known Member

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    The league DOES NOT have more information than the authorities. Are you daft? The authorities most likely discussed, in-depth, with the witnesses, the girl, and even Zeke - this is more than what the league could do. At most, they got word FROM the authorities on all the details the authorities have.

    As for the league and legal standards - again, players have protection. They have a contract and money on the line, suspensions must hold up and there needs to be good reason behind a suspension. You can't just suspend a player for no reason, so I will ask you this yet again; either provide something we have out there right now or what you believe the NFL could have found in all of this that could get Zeke suspended.

    "A huge % of domestic violence cases never lead to prosecution"

    And in this case, there was no domestic abuse, genius. I just provided you all the evidence on this, SHE LIED THERE IS PROOF OF THIS.

    Instead of your babbling, go read up on this investigation and all of the evidence.
     
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  14. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

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    This sums up everything that's wrong with emotion-based methodology. Logic be damned.

    News flash, what you "think" or "feel" is not evidence or fact.
     
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  15. Sydla

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    I think that's why rumors are a couple of games and not 6 or more that comes with a domestic violence finding.

    NFL can nail him for that. But their suspicions he did commit DM coupled with his boob show situation and they can save face and suspended him for conduct unbecoming a NFL player.

    Frankly, it's a sham. But this is as much PR for them as anything else.
     
  16. THEHEREAFTER

    THEHEREAFTER Well-Known Member

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    There's keeping it real but I get a twisted feeling that you want to be "right" about Zeke getting suspended.
     
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  17. Direwolf63

    Direwolf63 RXP

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    Josh Brown, who admitted to multiple domestic violent acts, got 1 game. The precedent has been set.

    Based on this, Zeke should get maybe 1 series.

    But, he's going to be made an example of. So I see him getting a couple of games.
     
  18. Dallyjake

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    I knew he shouldn't have showed his *** on that ESPN mag.

    But I wont buy any of this crap until I see official word from the NFL.
     
  19. John813

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    It's like a weekly thing now for some reporter to claim Zeke will be suspended soon, on a Friday.

    Last week it was Clayton, now it's AS.
    Wonder who reports the same thing next week?
     
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  20. MrPhil

    MrPhil Well-Known Member

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    Based on what I read that guy (Brown) is a sick individual......why indeed.
     
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