Schultz to command top TE money

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'll take a comp pick.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The way I see it, we have 3 options at LG for 2022........
McGovern
Resign CW ( $6-8M is max I'd go)
Draft........not sure we'd burn a 1st on a guard. So I'm guessing a 2nd would be the earliest, which brings the next question. Who would you rather start 2nd round rookie or Connor Williams? As many have said, CW is pretty solid IF you can live with his penalties.

Remember my question was given the choice, would you resign Shultz or CW?

We have Collins can play guard if we can move Steele to RT. Its really time to draft a guy to be honest.

Resigning Williams is spinning your wheels.

 

[CATCH17]

Old Witten still blocks better than young Schultz; however you’re right enough that Schultz proved that he should have had a role while Witten was in that last season.

But still,, Witten is #4 all time in NFL history in catches; to pick on the back end of his HOF career doesn’t mean I’d rather have Schultz than Witten.

Disagree. Old Witten was bad at blocking too. Everyone just overlooked it.

 

[CATCH17]

Why talk the old Witten, compare where both were at the same stage of their careers, that is how ya do this.

No.. That is not what I ever said so why would I discuss that?

Schultz is much better than the Witten we kept trotting out their towards the end of Witten career.

Of course prime Witten is better than Schultz ever thought about being. Nobody would make that argument.

 

[charron]

Schultz does a really good job running the routes he is asked too. He needs to work on blocking but I'd agree he will command a top 5 contract. Receiving gets u paid and with 4 QB's last year he still was what top 5 in yards for a TE. Good for him.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I've consistently posted that PFF is crap with regards to player evaluations.

I make it a point to also post that in threads where their rankings are favorable to my opinion about players.

PFF does have some stats that have value.
- Some stats require game review to determine.
- QBs target locations for example.
- They categorize passing target locations into 6 areas.
- Short Right
- Short Middle
- Short Left
- Long Right
- Long Middle
- Long Left

That requires game review to determine and that's where PFF has value.

Grading players is far to subjective and requires far more expertise than just categorizing location of passing targets.
- There are 32 teams
- There are approximately 140 snaps per game on average not including special teams.
- There are 11 players on the field per team.

It comes out to about 400 man hours per week if the minimum reasonable time is spent grading all 11 players for each team on all snaps.
- They're not paying ex NFL or ex college coaches to 'grade film'.
- I've posted a job req from PFF here in the past.
- They require zero football experience for their 'film graders'.
- Somebody that posted here in the past worked for PFF as a film grader.

Folks, please note xwalker has been spouting the same crap about PFF for years.

PFF sucks but you don’t need to rely on the false info xwalker makes up.

They detail how they grade and what they do on their website.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Of course it remains to be seen but fodder to discuss.

“According to CBS Sports’ Joel Corry, expect Schultz to earn a new contract similar to that of the New England Patriots‘ Hunter Henry. Henry signed his deal during the 2021 offseason and earned himself a three-year, $37.5 million deal and $25 million guaranteed.

Corry projects Schultz to earn a deal with a $12.5 million average, $25 million in guarantees across three years. That sort of contract would place Schultz in the top five among highest-paid players at his position in terms of annual value.“

https://heavy.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-dalton-schultz-contract-2022/

Lowball or ditch that poser Scheetzs! Rot. Sod!

Psst. There is this guy, Jaylen Widemeyer from Texas A&M

This from NFLdraftbuzz:

40-YARD DASH TIME: 4.71-SECONDS HEIGHT: 6-5 WEIGHT: 255 LBS.
RANK: #2 GAMES PLAYED: 35 TOTAL SNAP COUNT: 2032
COLLEGE RECRUITING GRADE:

(80/100)

Scheetz is not that good and thanks to Dak and Zeke, the Cowboys need theior cap money.

 

[IslandCowboy]

You would rather have Jarwin over Dalton Schultz? lol There was a lot of love for Schultz last year who surprised all of us. He’s currently having a better season than last year and now some are down on him because his price tag will be going up. Yeah let’s keep Blake Jarwin who’s always injured and rarely shows up and bring in a cheap free agent. That’s a great formula for building a championship team. Lol

I'd rather have Jarwin at a lower price than schultz so we can find a different option all together.

 

[doomsday9084]

No way I would give him that kind of money. IMO, the lack of blocking at the TE position is a big problem in the run game. Take the comp pick.

 

[DanA]

The tight-end franchise tag is projected to be 10.8m. First half of the season it was in the conversation, I'm not sure I'd pay it now though.

 

[Syron]

What am I missing here? Why all this Witten comparisons of late? I am a big fan of Schultz, but he's no Witten's. The stats don't lie. Here is a simple comparison of their careers over the 1st three years.

Schultz
Rec - 76
Yards - 737
TDs - 4

Witten - 1st 3 Years
Rec - 188
Yards - 2,084
TDs - 13

As if the stat's weren't lopsided enough, might be worth mentioning that those numbers for Witten came from 3 soon to be retired QBs in Quincy, Vinny, and Bledsoe. Now, I see no logical reason to compare a 38 year old to a 25 year old, but here are Witten's last 3 years in the league (2 of the three post retirement no less).

Witten - Last 3 Years
Rec - 139
Yards - 1,159
TDs - 11

Nothing about Schultz to me indicates he is on the verge of averaging over 1000 yards a season for 7 straight years. He looked good to start the season, but he doesn't take over games like some of the other greats around the league. I love the kid, but I also think he is a product of the system (especially early in the year). He runs some nice routes and I would love to have signed him this past off-season when he was cheaper, but he's not worth top 5 TE money. Not for this team.

Next time he get's his helmet ripped off and runs for 30 yards, we can bring it up, but until then let's stop the Witten comparisons. Not many can live up to those 1st ballet hall of fame expectations.

 

[StarChamber_33]

Decisions.. decisions.. if he can get that much money somewhere else, then God bless him.

 

[MaineBoy]

The real story here is that any idiot can be a sports columnist for CBS Sports….

 

[buybuydandavis]

Of course it remains to be seen but fodder to discuss.

“According to CBS Sports’ Joel Corry, expect Schultz to earn a new contract similar to that of the New England Patriots‘ Hunter Henry. Henry signed his deal during the 2021 offseason and earned himself a three-year, $37.5 million deal and $25 million guaranteed.

Corry projects Schultz to earn a deal with a $12.5 million average, $25 million in guarantees across three years. That sort of contract would place Schultz in the top five among highest-paid players at his position in terms of annual value.“

https://heavy.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-dalton-schultz-contract-2022/

Gimme that sweet, sweet comp pick.

 

[CowboyChris]

Bye, Felicia.

that's what you were saying about Swaim, and now look at him.

 

[plasticman]

I wish him the best of luck........from a compensatory pick perspective.

 

[Cydios]

Yeah, not going to happen.

 

[KJJ]

I'd rather have Jarwin at a lower price than schultz so we can find a different option all together.

Schultz has proven to be a much better TE than Jarwin. Jarwin can’t be depended on. He doesn’t consistently show up in games and he’s injured a lot. I want the better player and a different option at the position can lead to a downgrade. Many fans here would rather have a downgrade at a position than pay a better player. We’ll have to see what Schultz’ asking price is.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Disagree. Old Witten was bad at blocking too. Everyone just overlooked it.

poor Old Witten; may have ruined his HOF career over his last couple years here, shame really. His bad blocking was probably still better than Schultz lol but, like you said, we’re just gonna disagree!

Hope he kicks butt tomorrow!

 

[CATCH17]

poor Old Witten; may have ruined his HOF career over his last couple years here, shame really. His bad blocking was probably still better than Schultz lol but, like you said, we’re just gonna disagree!

Hope he kicks butt tomorrow!

I don’t think Witten was bad at all. He was still solid. Schultz is just better.