Screw the Rest of the League. Keep Tony

[Nightman]

Wow so Dallas is on the hook for 19.6 no matter what. Knowing that makes it even more obvious to me. you keep him or trade him, but not release him. 19.6 is the cash we pushed down the line. So even if he took a base pay cut, we would still be on the hook for 19.6

The 19.6m is OK for a QB....most QB have over 20m in Dead Money.......it is how their deals are done

But like you said there is no way to avoid it....it is spent money

But if he re-does his contract to 5m a year with 500k for every game started he could stay as a backup and save us 9m on the cap this year......if he was traded he would still make 13m as a starter for his new team

He is WAY too valuable to give away.....the cap savings are exactly the same with a cut or a trade

 

[OldCoach]

Cause they scouted it and saw it coming.

Does the experienced vet read that?

Does the experienced vet change anything up at any other point during the game that makes a difference in that horrible first half? Something that rookie just didn't have the experience or the permission to recognize and change?

We'll never know, unfortunately.

That GB secondary was an absolute mess.

A QB can't know that the db is making that read that fast.
I'm watching the play right now. We had trips left. We motioned the 3 receiver and the defense responded by bumping coverage. This means they were in Man and were comboing the 1 and 2 receiver. This is what we would want as an offense. They stacked their dbs and one was taking the in route and one the out route. If they were in some form of cover 2 man, the db would have had over the top help and it would have been an easier play for the db. The route is called a NOW route. That means he takes the snap and delivers the ball. If he hesitates, that play never works.

My point is, you can run some plays exactly correct and things don't go as planned.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

We can talk as much as we want, behind closed doors Jerry knows Romo would've won that game.

I'm behind Dak for the future, but in that game in the first half, Romo wouldn't have done that. Now we have to deal with the hand that is dealt. 2 rookies, thats what happens. Romo would've won that game, and I don't care what anyone says.

 

[Vtwin]

why was Romo going to play defense as well? Dak had 3 TD passes in the game and hitting 63% of his passes vs GB. What Dak could not do it stop Rodgers

He couldn't score the TD on three plays at the goal line.

He couldn't get multiple fist downs in the first half when GB was running up the score.

Not blaming it entirely on Dak at all. Let's keep it real though. He was far from perfect and that secondary was ripe for the picking.

 

[blumayne38]

im against the competing because the odds are better Romo is going down again, and if he goes down again, its going to be for a long time. So leave him as back up or coach, and he can come in if Dak goes down. Dak is young and will bounce back, How ever, i dont want to freak people out, players dont get younger, so lets not pass up this opportunity. We have a young exciting QB, you use him.

Exciting? More like let down..

 

[OldCoach]

We can talk as much as we want, behind closed doors Jerry knows Romo would've won that game.

I'm behind Dak for the future, but in that game in the first half, Romo wouldn't have done that. Now we have to deal with the hand that is dealt. 2 rookies, thats what happens. Romo would've won that game, and I don't care what anyone says.

What happened to Romo in 2015? HE THREW 7 INTERCEPTIONS IN 4 GAMES. DAK THREW 5 INTERCEPTIONS IN 17 GAMES.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

What happened to Romo in 2015? HE THREW 7 INTERCEPTIONS IN 4 GAMES. DAK THREW 5 INTERCEPTIONS IN 17 GAMES.

Got you, but its pretty simple, this team was better than that team. Murray doesn't hold a candle to Zeke.

Romo was upset cause he knows that.

 

[DallasEast]

We can talk as much as we want, behind closed doors Jerry knows Romo would've won that game.

I'm behind Dak for the future, but in that game in the first half, Romo wouldn't have done that. Now we have to deal with the hand that is dealt. 2 rookies, thats what happens. Romo would've won that game, and I don't care what anyone says.

The front office, football peers, media and some fans got swept up within the euphoria of a regular season winning streak. History suggests a rookie starting quarterback would not have headed a Super Bowl winning team but history was damned. Then again, 84 years of history suggested no team leading by 19 points at the start of the fourth quarter in an NFL championship game would lose. So, history matters only so much. Of course, the reasons why Atlanta lost had much more to do with not making the correct choices during the final 23 minutes of the game than due to the historic comeback of a Tom Brady-led New England team. So, que sera sera I guess.

 

[Kevinicus]

Dak's played better this year than Romo did the last two years. I'd resign Carr over Claiborne for the same reason. If you aren't on the field, you aren't producing.

Dak did not play better than Romo in 2014. Not even close really. 2015 was a small unhealthy sample.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

The front office, football peers, media and some fans got swept up within the euphoria of a regular season winning streak. History suggests a rookie starting quarterback would not have headed a Super Bowl winning team but history was damned. Then again, 84 years of history suggested no team leading by 19 points at the start of the fourth quarter in an NFL championship game would lose. So, history matters only so much. Of course, the reasons why Atlanta lost had much more to do with not making the correct choices during the final 23 minutes of the game than due to the historic comeback of a Tom Brady-led New England team. So, que sera sera I guess.

I sit in the barbershop with fellow Cowboy fans. Dak is the future, no question about that at all, he deserves that cause he was great as a rookie. We did get caught up in the hipe. I just wish we didn't, but oh well, nothing we can do now but move forward. Unfortunately we have been hearing that for a few decades so its hard to hear.

I love and want Dak, problem I have is that this year, I figure things would've been different.

 

[OldCoach]

Got you, but its pretty simple, this team was better than that team. Murray doesn't hold a candle to Zeke.

Romo was upset cause he knows that.

I agree and like I said I love Romo. He gave us all hope for the last 10 years. I feel bad for Romo. I wish Romo could have won a superbowl last year and this year and made it into the Hall of Fame. I think he has been that good.

I would argue that we have the quarterback with the brightest and longest futures in the NFL. I can't name a young QB I would take over DAK. We could trade Dak for two first rounders, and Tony for a 3rd at best. There is your value.

 

[OldCoach]

Dak did not play better than Romo in 2014. Not even close really. 2015 was a small unhealthy sample.

Exactly, Tony Romo didn't play. Where is the value in that?

Wins losses and stats are all comparable in Tony's 2014- Dak's 2016
Peyton Manning threw for 39 tds and 4700 yards in 2014.- Maybe we should bring Manning out of retirement.

 

[DallasEast]

I sit in the barbershop with fellow Cowboy fans. Dak is the future, no question about that at all, he deserves that cause he was great as a rookie. We did get caught up in the hipe. I just wish we didn't, but oh well, nothing we can do now but move forward. Unfortunately we have been hearing that for a few decades so its hard to hear.

I love and want Dak, problem I have is that this year, I figure things would've been different.

You're lucky. My barbershop is always full of Saints, Broncos and Steelers (of all teams) fans. Heck, my barber is, bar none, the biggest Patriots fan you could ever meet. The sad thing is he's much more reasonable with me than some Cowboys fans have been.

He constantly asked my opinion of how I felt about Dallas' quarterback situation throughout the season and I always gave him the same answer: Romo should resume the starting role after he was healthy enough to return. He always laughed along with everyone else but didn't comment about my opinion. He always allowed the rest of their customers do all the talking. .

Still, he remembered what I repeatedly said about rookie quarterbacks, championships, and history. He said only one thing to me after Dallas' loss to Green Bay:

"I get what your point now."

He understood that the situation had nothing to do with Prescott, who he thinks has a very Brady like future ahead of him. It was a matter of rolling with the best odds during the playoffs. Experience matters in all things. It may have made zero difference in the end but the opportunity was there to take the safest route associated with every NFL championship team in history. The opportunity is gone now. Time to hope for more to come.

 

[OldCoach]

You gotta cut your teeth sometime. Dak did a pretty darn good job in the Green Bay game. Glad it's past us next year when we will be steamrolling folks into the playoffs.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

You're lucky. My barbershop is always full of Saints, Broncos and Steelers (of all teams) fans. Heck, my barber is, bar none, the biggest Patriots fan you could ever meet. The sad thing is he's much more reasonable with me than some Cowboys fans have been.

He constantly asked my opinion of how I felt about Dallas' quarterback situation throughout the season and I always gave him the same answer: Romo should resume the starting role after he was healthy enough to return. He always laughed along with everyone else but didn't comment about my opinion. He always allowed the rest of their customers do all the talking. .

Still, he remembered what I repeatedly said about rookie quarterbacks, championships, and history. He said only one thing to me after Dallas' loss to Green Bay:

"I get what your point now."

He understood that the situation had nothing to do with Prescott, who he thinks has a very Brady like future ahead of him. It was a matter of rolling with the best odds during the playoffs. Experience matters in all things. It may have made zero difference in the end but the opportunity was there to take the safest route associated with every NFL championship team in history. The opportunity is gone now. Time to hope for more to come.

Got a boatload of texts when we lost, but I can see the future. A future we haven't had in a few decades. This last year, and probaby next year too unfortunately I can see the use of Romo.....but Dak is our guy now and I have no problem with that.

Hopefully we don't sell out too quick and spend too much money in this free agency period to sacrifice our future for Mr. Jerry.

Make no mistake, he wants a ring now, and I really don't blame him for that.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ok, now we're getting somewhere. You finally admit that Romo was blowing smoke for the sake of the big picture. So please quit using the "even Romo admitted it" argument to counter the "morons" who believe Romo isn't done yet and brings an experience factor to the table that the rook can't.

QB controversy is media/fan BS. Competition is good.

A joke? Come on man. You are better than that. Comparing this team to those that Romo had to work with. Not giving him credit for the experience he has gained since his second year as a starter when he had to rely on jaque reeves to not let the receiver just run by him to score and stone handed receivers to drop multiple scoring passes.

Hell, Romo himself said this was the best team he ever had... Right?

I don't think it was blowing smoke I think Romo meant what he said. Of course he wants to play he is a competitor so of course he wants to play. He has 3 years remaining on his contract in Dallas with a base salary of 14 mill, 19 mill and 20 Mill that is some serious money and with how Dak has played it is a reason why the Cowboys will move on from Romo it is not 1 year as people can talking about it is 3 years remaining and Dallas has a chance to clear the book on Romo and get some real savings so that they can address other areas of need. Again I like Romo always have but people are acting as if he has lead this team to several championships when the reality is he has 2 playoff wins, nothing more. I don't blame all of that on Romo but fact is Dallas has not won at a level to act as if he is irreplaceable, if anything Dak showed Romo is replaceable

 

[Kevinicus]

Exactly, Tony Romo didn't play. Where is the value in that?

Wins losses and stats are all comparable in Tony's 2014- Dak's 2016

And if Dak gets hurt next preseason, what is his value? That's not in any way how you judge the ability of a player.

Wins and losses are a team stat, not an individual stat. If you can't get that, then I don't know what to say. There's a lot more than stats to look at as well. All situations are not equal.

Peyton Manning threw for 39 tds and 4700 yards in 2014.- Maybe we should bring Manning out of retirement.

That's a silly comparison. Pretty embarrassing really. If Romo's leg's were gone you might have a point.

 

[irving]

Dak took over and did an outstanding job leading this team and I fully expect it is his job. Just as it became Tony job once he took over. The best player is Dak, he can make the plays and is durable. he lead this team even when guys like Tyron Smith was missing time and yet Dak continued to go out and help this team win. he had no defense he could lean on and yet continued to win. It is his team no question about it. those clinging on to Romo hate to say it but it is over with. Cowboys have made the call

People need to let Romo go, Dallas knows it's to much of risk to keep him. One good hit and he could be finished, then he would have no value to them . While if he goes to another team, they then assume all of the risk. It's business, and for those saying he's better than Dak, we don't know that. Romo hasn't played a entire quarter in over a year, let alone a entire game or season. The NFL is brutal, that's why young tough guys play in the league. There are exceptions, but we all know it's a young mans game.

 

[Echo9]

No way Dallas is paying 24.5 mill for a backup. I know we have a lot of people who love Romo as do I but come on that would be plain stupid for Dallas to have that much cash sitting on the bench when other areas need to be addressed. Dallas would be screwing themselves not the league. Loyalty is great but Dallas can't afford to keep Tony

OK. I'm pretty sure I have this right (at least in theory) , but capologists can feel free to clear up if it's off.

Starting with the number you listed: 24.5 mil.
Then we have the cap savings if he's cut or traded before June 1: 5 mil.
So that means we are still on the hook for 19.5 mil against the cap.

Do you think that some of the 5 mil would have to go to a backup QB? If we want someone better than Cassel, odds are that it will cost close to 5 mil. Even if it's half that much, You're willing to dump a QB of Romo's caliber for roughly 2.5 million in cap savings?

I'd rather have Romo on the bench over someone like Ryan Fitzpatrick and a couple hundred grand tacked onto the cap.

We can talk about the team ramifications of keeping Romo on as a backup, the overall direction of the team, whether he's willing to be a backup, the (non-exisitent) chance of Romo competing to start here and all the other reasons that having Romo stay are unlikely, but the money is not the reason for 2017.

 

[haleyrules]

Amen. It should be Prescotts team to win or lose with. Tony's days are numbered. No player can play forever. Its time to move on and try a new player. Players come and go....the spirit of the Team will always survive. Team first.