Screw the Rest of the League. Keep Tony

[OldCoach]

Not entirely.

He definitely did not play a perfect game though.

Do you hold him completely blameless?

Not sure what your point is here though. That winning streak meant nothing when championships are the goal.

In fact it may have even set this team back if Dak (assuming it's not Romo starting) doesn't build on his previously unheard of rookie year playing behind one of the best lines in football and handing off to the league rushing leader.

Nothing is guaranteed. As an old coach you should know this.

Every year is a new year no doubt. That interception DAK through was a now route and it was a hell of a play by the db. I wouldn't blame DAK for that one. If anyone is to blame I'd say the playcall/just chalk it up to a good play.

 

[Doomsday101]

Not entirely.

He definitely did not play a perfect game though.

Do you hold him completely blameless?

Not sure what your point is here though. That winning streak meant nothing when championships are the goal.

In fact it may have even set this team back if Dak (assuming it's not Romo starting) doesn't build on his previously unheard of rookie year playing behind one of the best lines in football and handing off to the league rushing leader.

Nothing is guaranteed. As an old coach you should know this.

 

[OldCoach]

If the two receiver steps back and the one blocks that's a hell of a read to make and beat the pass to the receiver.

 

[Doomsday101]

You keep harping on "Romo even said it..."

Yet refuse to answer questions aimed directly at truth/motivation of that specific statement. Instead you obfuscate with responses like this one.

Text book wishy washyness.

The truth of the motivation? he did not want to create a situation that you seem to be pushing now which was avoiding QB controversy given how the team was playing in mid Nov and continued to play as the season continued.

Above you say winning streaks mean nothing only champsionships? how many championships does Romo have? He has 2 playoff wins in his career that is it. Claiming how now he will win it all when this team has won nothing during all that time is a joke

 

[rambo2]

And you blame DAK?

Well, you could clearly see that they would have won the Philly game if they left Romo in the game. There would have been an excellent chance that they would have beaten Green Bay with Romo. Romo is better than Dak. Romo is a better passer.

 

[DallasEast]

And you blame DAK?

Prescott is not the reason why Dallas did not advance in the playoffs this season. That said, it is a strange but common practice (in a team sport of 11 versus 11) of some media and fans to label quarterbacks with their team's win/loss records. Here's are two questions I would pose. Do you think it's inappropriate assigning Dallas' 2016 postseason record on Prescott? If no, do you think it's appropriate assigning the team's previous postseason records on Romo? Just trying to gauge where you stand on the topic of postseason win/loss records and starting quarterbacks.

 

[Doomsday101]

Well, you could clearly see that they would have won the Philly game if they left Romo in the game. There would have been an excellent chance that they would have beaten Green Bay with Romo. Romo is better than Dak. Romo is a better passer.

Dallas could have won had Dak played in the game. He had 8 throws in the game and then after Romo, Sanchez came into the game to play the rest of the way

 

[OldCoach]

Prescott is not the reason why Dallas did not advance in the playoffs this season. That said, it is a strange but common practice (in a team sport of 11 versus 11) of some media and fans to label quarterbacks with win/loss records. Here's are two questions I would pose. Do you think it's inappropriate assigning Dallas' 2016 postseason record on Prescott? If no, do you think it's appropriate assigning the team's previous postseason records on Romo? Just trying to gauge where you stand on the topic of postseason win/loss records and starting quarterbacks.

I don't blame Romo at all. Romo carried a lot of those teams on his shoulders no doubt.

 

[Doomsday101]

Well, you could clearly see that they would have won the Philly game if they left Romo in the game. There would have been an excellent chance that they would have beaten Green Bay with Romo. Romo is better than Dak. Romo is a better passer.

why was Romo going to play defense as well? Dak had 3 TD passes in the game and hitting 63% of his passes vs GB. What Dak could not do it stop Rodgers

 

[rambo2]

Dallas could have won had Dak played in the game. He had 8 throws in the game and then after Romo, Sanchez came into the game to play the rest of the way

They could have, but Dak didn't play well. Romo came in and took them right down the field for a td and they took him out.

 

[rambo2]

why was Romo going to play defense as well? Dak had 3 TD passes in the game and hitting 63% of his passes vs GB. What Dak could not do it stop Rodgers

Romo wouldn't have spiked the ball with the timeout left.

 

[OldCoach]

Folks DAK Prescott Rookie stats:
67.8 completion percentage
3667 yards
23 Passig Tds
4 Ints(easily could have been 6-7)
6 Rushing TDs
104 rating
8 yards per attempt
Rookie of the Year
13 wins
3 losses

Tony Romo was comparable 3 years ago. Don't even check his stats during 2015 2 years ago.
5 td
7 int
79 passer rating

 

[Deep_Freeze]

The truth of the motivation? he did not want to create a situation that you seem to be pushing now which was avoiding QB controversy given how the team was playing in mid Nov and continued to play as the season continued.

Above you say winning streaks mean nothing only champsionships? how many championships does Romo have? He has 2 playoff wins in his career that is it. Claiming how now he will win it all when this team has won nothing during all that time is a joke

In all fairness, Dak wouldn't have won those games that Romo lost.

We sucked. That's not Romo's fault, just the way it was. Dak has a better team to deal with, Romo never had anyone with the talent of Zeke. Blame the FO or whatever, Romo never had all of that at that time. Romo was hurt and didn't get his chance, but timing means everything.

 

[OldCoach]

Folks DAK Prescott Rookie stats:
67.8 completion percentage
3667 yards
23 Passig Tds
4 Ints(easily could have been 6-7)
6 Rushing TDs
104 rating
8 yards per attempt
Rookie of the Year
13 wins
3 losses

Tony Romo was comparable 3 years ago. Don't even check his stats during 2015 2 years ago.
5 td
7 int
79 passer rating

Three years ago Peyton Manning threw for 39 Tds and 4727 yards

 

[Nightman]

@bkight13 salary experts - ? - Can Dallas trade Romo for say a 4th round pick and go halfsies on his contract? and then 2018 he has no cap impact?

Not really.............DAL has to account for 19.6m in cap savings we took the last 5 years with Romo

If we trade him it will be the full 19.6m cap hit this year or split 10.9m/8.7m over two years if it is after June 1st

The other team cannot take on any of his dead money.......they would just be responsible for his 14m base salary

I agree that he is way too valuable to give away......the longer they hold him the bigger the reward

Our snowflake fans can't handle the wait and need instant gratification......they want to waive him as a nice gesture just to get it over with

 

[Kevinicus]

Dak took over and did an outstanding job leading this team and I fully expect it is his job. Just as it became Tony job once he took over. The best player is Dak, he can make the plays and is durable. he lead this team even when guys like Tyron Smith was missing time and yet Dak continued to go out and help this team win. he had no defense he could lean on and yet continued to win. It is his team no question about it. those clinging on to Romo hate to say it but it is over with. Cowboys have made the call

While I don't disagree that the Cowboys have probably decided to move on (not necessarily forward), I vehemently disagree on who is the better player, and that the defense didn't play a large role in the team's success, and probably about what is or is not 'leading.

The point is, that:

1. In order for Romo to be on the team in 2017, he will likely need to agree to a paycut.
2. If Romo agrees to that paycut, he's going to want at least the chance to compete for the job (Which IMO he would easily win).

So, IF he was on the team, I think it would be unlikely he is the backup, or costing 24+ million.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Not really.............DAL has to account for 19.6m in cap savings we took the last 5 years with Romo

If we trade him it will be the full 19.6m cap hit this year or split 10.9m/8.7m over two years if it is after June 1st

The other team cannot take on any of his dead money.......they would just be responsible for his 14m base salary

I agree that he is way too valuable to give away......the longer they hold him the bigger the reward

Our snowflake fans can't handle the wait and need instant gratification......they want to waive him as a nice gesture just to get it over with

Wow so Dallas is on the hook for 19.6 no matter what. Knowing that makes it even more obvious to me. you keep him or trade him, but not release him. 19.6 is the cash we pushed down the line. So even if he took a base pay cut, we would still be on the hook for 19.6

 

[Vtwin]

If the two receiver steps back and the one blocks that's a hell of a read to make and beat the pass to the receiver.

Cause they scouted it and saw it coming.

Does the experienced vet read that?

Does the experienced vet change anything up at any other point during the game that makes a difference in that horrible first half? Something that rookie just didn't have the experience or the permission to recognize and change?

We'll never know, unfortunately.

That GB secondary was an absolute mess.

 

[OldCoach]

While I don't disagree that the Cowboys have probably decided to move on (not necessarily forward), I vehemently disagree on who is the better player, and that the defense didn't play a large role in the team's success, and probably about what is or is not 'leading.

The point is, that:

1. In order for Romo to be on the team in 2017, he will likely need to agree to a paycut.
2. If Romo agrees to that paycut, he's going to want at least the chance to compete for the job (Which IMO he would easily win).

So, IF he was on the team, I think it would be unlikely he is the backup, or costing 24+ million.

Dak's played better this year than Romo did the last two years. I'd resign Carr over Claiborne for the same reason. If you aren't on the field, you aren't producing.

 

[Vtwin]

The truth of the motivation? he did not want to create a situation that you seem to be pushing now which was avoiding QB controversy given how the team was playing in mid Nov and continued to play as the season continued.

Above you say winning streaks mean nothing only champsionships? how many championships does Romo have? He has 2 playoff wins in his career that is it. Claiming how now he will win it all when this team has won nothing during all that time is a joke

Ok, now we're getting somewhere. You finally admit that Romo was blowing smoke for the sake of the big picture. So please quit using the "even Romo admitted it" argument to counter the "morons" who believe Romo isn't done yet and brings an experience factor to the table that the rook can't.

QB controversy is media/fan BS. Competition is good.

A joke? Come on man. You are better than that. Comparing this team to those that Romo had to work with. Not giving him credit for the experience he has gained since his second year as a starter when he had to rely on jaque reeves to not let the receiver just run by him to score and stone handed receivers to drop multiple scoring passes.

Hell, Romo himself said this was the best team he ever had... Right?