Screw the Rest of the League. Keep Tony

[OldCoach]

And if Dak gets hurt next preseason, what is his value? That's not in any way how you judge the ability of a player.

Wins and losses are a team stat, not an individual stat. If you can't get that, then I don't know what to say. There's a lot more than stats to look at as well. All situations are not equal.



That's a silly comparison. Pretty embarrassing really. If Romo's leg's were gone you might have a point.

In the NFL, teams with good qbs generally win more games. So if we don't give any credit to DAK for 13 wins, why are we talking about Romos wins in 2014. I think it's a good reflection of both guys.

I'm pretty sure that a lot of these folks that want to go all in on a 37 year old who has (or will have) declining skills and injury problems have "deeper" issues. Maybe hoarders, maybe clinging to the past. I'm sure there are a couple that don't think a black qb can get the job done.

Romos health has kept him off the field.
DAK straight up took his spot.
We can save 14 mil without Tony
We have a franchise qb on a 4th rounders pay.
I hope y'all have some tissues for your tears.
I wish Tony the best at his next destination.

 

[OldCoach]

OK. I'm pretty sure I have this right (at least in theory) , but capologists can feel free to clear up if it's off.

Starting with the number you listed: 24.5 mil.
Then we have the cap savings if he's cut or traded before June 1: 5 mil.
So that means we are still on the hook for 19.5 mil against the cap.

Do you think that some of the 5 mil would have to go to a backup QB? If we want someone better than Cassel, odds are that it will cost close to 5 mil. Even if it's half that much, You're willing to dump a QB of Romo's caliber for roughly 2.5 million in cap savings?

I'd rather have Romo on the bench over someone like Ryan Fitzpatrick and a couple hundred grand tacked onto the cap.

We can talk about the team ramifications of keeping Romo on as a backup, the overall direction of the team, whether he's willing to be a backup, the (non-exisitent) chance of Romo competing to start here and all the other reasons that having Romo stay are unlikely, but the money is not the reason for 2017.

Cut him post June 1st. Save 14 mil. Sign a backup and a pass rusher with the money we just saved from restructuring our oline

 

[Echo9]

Cut him post June 1st. Save 14 mil. Sign a backup and a pass rusher with the money we just saved from restructuring our oline

If we cut or trade him post June 1, we don't have any of that money until June 1 when we don't need it. I left out the post June 1 part, because it's the worst option of all.

 

[Nightman]

If we cut or trade him post June 1, we don't have any of that money until June 1 when we don't need it. I left out the post June 1 part, because it's the worst option of all.

Keeping Romo at reduced salary, say 5m, with huge per game incentives for starting is the best case scenario........we get 9m in instant cap relief, Tony gets to stay a Cowboy in DAL with his 3 young kids and only has to worry about his backwards cap and not a broken back....... Dak has the best bak up in the League and a helluva mentor

I will give Romo 5m per year for several years to bak up Dak

 

[OldCoach]

If we cut or trade him post June 1, we don't have any of that money until June 1 when we don't need it. I left out the post June 1 part, because it's the worst option of all.

You use that money to make moves and sign rookies. We restructure Dez and Sean Lee to make room to sign a couple of midlevel free agents. - probably one or two of our dbs and maybe a free agent de. You can also use that money to extend Martin.

 

[Kevinicus]

In the NFL, teams with good qbs generally win more games. So if we don't give any credit to DAK for 13 wins, why are we talking about Romos wins in 2014. I think it's a good reflection of both guys.

I'm pretty sure that a lot of these folks that want to go all in on a 37 year old who has (or will have) declining skills and injury problems have "deeper" issues. Maybe hoarders, maybe clinging to the past. I'm sure there are a couple that don't think a black qb can get the job done.

Romos health has kept him off the field.
DAK straight up took his spot.
We can save 14 mil without Tony
We have a franchise qb on a 4th rounders pay.
I hope y'all have some tissues for your tears.
I wish Tony the best at his next destination.

There is a difference between giving some credit and all credit. Who is "we?" Good qbs on bad teams don't win. Ask Drew Brees.

What is going all-in?

Dak did not take his spot flat out. That is flat out wrong. Dak was 3rd string and was GIVEN the job due to two injuries. He did not beat anyone out.

We MAY have a franchise Qb at a 4th round rate. Where have you seen me suggest Dallas keep Romo at the current rate? Seems like more strawman as has been the case all year with Dak support, Romo critics.

 

[rambo2]

Cut him post June 1st. Save 14 mil. Sign a backup and a pass rusher with the money we just saved from restructuring our oline

Then Dak Prescott breaks a leg or tears an ACL and you have Moore playing qb for you and you can kiss Your Super Bowl goodbye.

 

[OldCoach]

There is a difference between giving some credit and all credit. Who is "we?" Good qbs on bad teams don't win. Ask Drew Brees.

What is going all-in?

Dak did not take his spot flat out. That is flat out wrong. Dak was 3rd string and was GIVEN the job due to two injuries. He did not beat anyone out.

We MAY have a franchise Qb at a 4th round rate. Where have you seen me suggest Dallas keep Romo at the current rate? Seems like more strawman as has been the case all year with Dak support, Romo critics.

The Cowboys went with DAK. Coaches evaluated the situation and decided to stay with DAK when they were both healthy. They thought DAK gave us the best chance to win. DAK won the starting job over Tony Romo while Romo was hurt. Romo did not take it back. What is incorrect about this You might disagree with the coaches but that is what they decided.

 

[OldCoach]

Then Dak Prescott breaks a leg or tears an ACL and you have Moore playing qb for you and you can kiss Your Super Bowl goodbye.

That's the story for all NFL teams. Same situation for Sean Lee, Tyrone Smith*, and probably Byron Jones due to the packages we run because of his skill set.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Dak is a monster truck.......guys bounce off him

I would keep Romo at 5m though for as long as he wanted to play

No offense, but why the hell would Romo even think about agreeing to something like that?

He is under no obligation to redo his contract, so why would he take a pay cut down to $5 million? He would tell you to go screw yourself and either pay him his $24 million or release him. He knows he could get more than $5 million on the open market anyways.

I see no logical scenario where Romo takes your $5 million offer, more of just wishful thinking.

 

[Echo9]

You use that money to make moves and sign rookies. We restructure Dez and Sean Lee to make room to sign a couple of midlevel free agents. - probably one or two of our dbs and maybe a free agent de. You can also use that money to extend Martin.

1. We don't need much to sign rookies. 2. Most good moves will be dried up by then.

waste.

 

[rambo2]

The Cowboys went with DAK. Coaches evaluated the situation and decided to stay with DAK when they were both healthy. They thought DAK gave us the best chance to win. DAK won the starting job over Tony Romo while Romo was hurt. Romo did not take it back. What is incorrect about this You might disagree with the coaches but that is what they decided.

And the coaches lost a home playoff game.

 

[OldCoach]

No offense, but why the hell would Romo even think about agreeing to something like that?

He is under no obligation to redo his contract, so why would he take a pay cut down to $5 million? He would tell you to go screw yourself and either pay him his $24 million or release him. He knows he could get more than $5 million on the open market anyways.

I see no logical scenario where Romo takes your $5 million offer, more of just wishful thinking.

I wish Romo would do all that. He'd then fail his physical for showing too many signs of CTE

 

[OldCoach]

1. We don't need much to sign rookies. 2. Most good moves will be dried up by then.

waste.

Did you read the post. Must be a non-reader.
RESTRUCTURE LEE AND DEZ. USE THAT MONEY TO MAKE FA MOVES AND RESIGN OUR PLAYERS. USE ROMOS SAVINGS TO SIGN ROOKIES AND EXTEND MARTIN.

 

[Echo9]

Keeping Romo at reduced salary, say 5m, with huge per game incentives for starting is the best case scenario........we get 9m in instant cap relief, Tony gets to stay a Cowboy in DAL with his 3 young kids and only has to worry about his backwards cap and not a broken back....... Dak has the best bak up in the League and a helluva mentor

I will give Romo 5m per year for several years to bak up Dak

I think that would be great in a perfect world. Realistically, I don't see it. From what I can see, it looks like the Cowboys have turned the page. Whether that decision is right or wrong is a complicated question.

 

[Echo9]

Did you read the post. Must be a non-reader.
RESTRUCTURE LEE AND DEZ. USE THAT MONEY TO MAKE FA MOVES AND RESIGN OUR PLAYERS. USE ROMOS SAVINGS TO SIGN ROOKIES AND EXTEND MARTIN.

ah. an ALL CAPS MAN.

bye.

 

[OldCoach]

And the coaches lost a home playoff game.

And you obviously think it was Daks fault when he dropped 300 yards 3tds-1int and played an almost perfect fourth quarter. The defense getting steamrolled in the first half had no impact.

Did you watch the game? Or were you watching Romo on the bench thinking about what might have been.

 

[OldCoach]

I think that would be great in a perfect world. Realistically, I don't see it. From what I can see, it looks like the Cowboys have turned the page. Whether that decision is right or wrong is a complicated question.

ERIK H- nonreader. lol. Do capital letters impair the ability of your device to read the post to you? You responded to someone else's thread. Sorry.

 

[Nightman]

No offense, but why the hell would Romo even think about agreeing to something like that?

He is under no obligation to redo his contract, so why would he take a pay cut down to $5 million? He would tell you to go screw yourself and either pay him his $24 million or release him. He knows he could get more than $5 million on the open market anyways.

I see no logical scenario where Romo takes your $5 million offer, more of just wishful thinking.

We don't owe Romo 24m, that is his cap hit.......his salary is 14m but isn't guaranteed
We could cut Sept 1st and he gets nothing from us

He would do it because more money would be guaranteed and you skipped over the part about huge incentives for games started but he would also be facing reality that staying in DAL as a bak up is better than going to BUFF and getting killed....not saying he should do it but it is a good option

Lay off the theatrics and use your brain

 

[Nightman]

Did you read the post. Must be a non-reader.
RESTRUCTURE LEE AND DEZ. USE THAT MONEY TO MAKE FA MOVES AND RESIGN OUR PLAYERS. USE ROMOS SAVINGS TO SIGN ROOKIES AND EXTEND MARTIN.

the rookies will cost 1.7m and Martin is under contract thru 2018 but keep insulting others