Sean Lee Helped Off Field ***Left knee injury per JG***

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Wow. That might be one of the most ignorant things I've ever read here.

If that were true, why would we want talented players? Why not just plug in eleven guys off the street and call it a day?

I think Sean Lee is highly overrated. He's not a difference make in any way. I take that back. He does have a nose for the ball
 

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A late 1st IIRC and he was not ready until half way through the season in Buffalo.

Right.
There may not be another team, in all team sports, with as many fans, who live and breathe hindsight as Dallas Cowboys fans.

It is ridiculous. When something happens the 1st thing people is look in hindsight. Its ridiculous. They never look in hindsight on things like what if Romo had gone to the Saints or what if Parcells never came here. Its always in hindsight to prove how incompetent this organization is. Ridiculous.
 

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NFL insiders are talking about this. And they said these OTAs are supposed to be non contact. No blocking. NFL could investigate and Cowboys could be fined
 

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I think Sean Lee is highly overrated. He's not a difference make in any way.

If that makes you rationalize the frustration better, go for it.

If it is a true and honest impression, I doubt you watch football very much and if you do, you do not understand what you are watching.
 

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At the very least it appears he has a case of Sailors Mouth from all the reports. :p


LOL..... Can we say that on TV?
If the Cowboys are a 5-11 team, they'll be that with or without Sean Lee.

If the Cows are a 10-6 team, they'll be that with or without Sean Lee.

He makes no impact on our overall outcome.

Lol @ those who criticized JJ for drafting a back up.


Could not disagree more with this post.


As to the whole laughing at those who criticized the Hitchens pick, might wait and see if he can actually play first. If he can't, that whole freight train is going to pick up some serious steam.
 
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NFL insiders are talking about this. And they said these OTAs are supposed to be non contact. No blocking. NFL could investigate and Cowboys could be fined

They are making more into this than there was. If they wanted to, they could fine every team for breaking the spirit of the CBA. It is impossible to have no contact whatsoever.
 

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Remember Trev Alberts, and the DE from BC that the Eagles drafted back in the 90's that couldn't stay on the field and had no history of injury. The cowboys gambled on Lee that a couple years in an NFL S&C program and injuries would not be an issue but he is your high motor, low physical talent, type of player that has to be going 110% which leads to injuries.
 

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Roy Tarpley played for the Dallas Mavericks back in the 80's. He was a phenomenal talent, but he had issues with drugs and alcohol. It was evident the team would have to just ride that out and hope for the best. His career was a waste. He was a good-hearted kid with issues.

Sean Lee is much the same in that he gets injured a great deal. Great talent, but this is his drugs in this scenario. Not like he has a choice. I don't believe Tarpley had a choice either.

The team will need to ride this out, for better or worse.

All this tossing around the man label is just crap. You don't get to the pros as a middle linebacker unless you have the ability to sacrifice your body, play with pain, and have the mental toughness to get through it..

Further, blaming Martin is about the same sad sack position as suggesting Lee isn't a man.

People are disappointed. I understand. But Lee cannot help it and Martin didn't do it intentionally.

Maybe - and this is merely an idea here - people should wait until the MRI before they start acting up.

Worst case scenario, Dallas is trying to pick up a linebacker and will have to go with a rookie. While this is late May and there are so many who have high hopes, the injury to Lee, if it is season ending, isn't what will make or break this season.

The pressure applied by the defensive front is what makes this defense prone to another dismal display.

Best case, this is merely a ding and Lee is healthy for the season.

But in any event, it is what it is and blaming someone doesn't change that.
 

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LOL..... Can we say that on TV?



Could not disagree more with this post.


As to the whole laughing at those who criticized the Hitchens pick, might wait and see if he can actually play first. If he can't, that whole freight train is going to pick up some serious steam.

I hope to see Bruce Carter get a shot in the middle. He showed his most promise there in 2012.
 

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They are making more into this than there was. If they wanted to, they could fine every team for breaking the spirit of the CBA. It is impossible to have no contact whatsoever.

Especially what constitutes a block, since by most accounts Lee was going down prior to contact.
 

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I'm not sure he's incorrect. Can we really point to one position on the defensive side of the ball and say x player is the difference between 5-11 and 10-6?

If there was any one player we could say that about, I think it would be Sean Lee. In my humble opinion he's our best defensive player (when healthy). Our defense is a lot different when he's not there.
 

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NFL insiders are talking about this. And they said these OTAs are supposed to be non contact. No blocking. NFL could investigate and Cowboys could be fined

Doubt anything comes of it. Even in non-contact, you are allowed to touch and shove people as if you are blocking or shedding blocks. Plus, as has been reported, Lee was already slipping when Martin even made contact with him.

It almost seems like you kind of want Martin and the Cowboys to get in trouble for this.
 

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Especially what constitutes a block, since by most accounts Lee was going down prior to contact.

Colliding with someone is not a block. Tripping over someone is not a block. When they talk about contact, they are not referring to incidentals that occur as players are mimicking the football motions.
 

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Colliding with someone is not a block. Tripping over someone is not a block. When they talk about contact, they are not referring to incidentals that occur as players are mimicking the football motions.

I agree but I do not know what the CBA considers "contact" and "blocking"
 

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Because most interweb/forum provocateurs try very hard to project an aura of invincibility coupled with the omnipotence of a god. The aforementioned is usually indicative of some weak wristed type taking out his or her angst against his or her betters. If you know what to look for, it is pretty easy to spot.

Also known as "the high school syndrome" or the old "road bully' before it was called road rage, which is really different from what I call the road bully.
 

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I think this puts the teams interest in Shazier in the first in a lot more context.

If its an ACL and he is out for the season then it is better that it happen now so the staff can adjust then it is if its the last preseason game.
 

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If there was any one player we could say that about, I think it would be Sean Lee. In my humble opinion he's our best defensive player (when healthy). Our defense is a lot different when he's not there.

I dont personally believe Sean Lee is worth 5 wins. The defensive line as a whole maybe, the LB corps as a whole, maybe..but not one player on defense
 

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I'm not sure he's incorrect. Can we really point to one position on the defensive side of the ball and say x player is the difference between 5-11 and 10-6?
Except that's not what he said. He said that Lee doesn't make a single game's worth of difference.
 
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