Sean McVay is what we wanted JG to be

[TwoCentPlain]

McVay didn't look good yesterday. Without the refs throwing the game for the Rams, McVay would be looking at another playoff loss.
Goff doesn't look like he is playing particularly well the past 6 weeks or so. What happened to Gurley yesterday? Benched for Anderson? 4th and goal from the 1 foot line and he fails to go for it. Kicked a FG to tie the game. Supposedly the best OL in the game and Gurley, and he kicks a FG. It only worked because the refs gave the Rams the game.

Yeah, they beat the Cowboys at home with two weeks to prepare running the ball. I give them that. The Rams might win against the Pats. If not, then I think the McVay star might be burning out.

 

[Sydla]

Garrett has a chance next season to join the exclusive "Back-to-Back Playoff Appearance" club in just his 10th year. How many of these other flash-in-the-pan coaches wish they could boast that?

Marvin Lewis kicked butt from his 9th season until his 14th. Made the playoffs 5 straight years!!!!!!!!!

 

[CATCH17]

medicore? so Goff as first overall pick is medicore talent? Gurley? Brooks? a very good OL, those WRs...Donald...those are medicore ....OOOOKKKK

Goff was awful.

Gurley was struggling. Often injured. BTW, CJ Anderson looks All Pro thanks to coaching.

But forget all that.

Even if you believe they had amazing talent they still weren't a good team. Why? Because coaching.


The Cowboys get nothing from their coaches. They are all talent and will to win.

The players have issues with our coaching and so do a lot of former players in the media.

It's widely accepted that we do nothing special from a strategy standpoint and, regardless of what side you're on, no coach should get 10+ years to prove themselves without some prior success.

 

[Sydla]

McVay didn't look good yesterday. Without the refs throwing the game for the Rams, McVay would be looking at another playoff loss.
Goff doesn't look like he is playing particularly well the past 6 weeks or so. What happened to Gurley yesterday? Benched for Anderson? 4th and goal from the 1 foot line and he fails to go for it. Kicked a FG to tie the game. Supposedly the best OL in the game and Gurley, and he kicks a FG. It only worked because the refs gave the Rams the game.

Yeah, they beat the Cowboys at home with two weeks to prepare running the ball. I give them that. The Rams might win against the Pats. If not, then I think the McVay star might be burning out.

LOL. So if McVay doesn't beat the Patriots in the SB in his second year as a head coach, his star might be burning out?

Hahahahaha. What's the star looking like for a coach that has been coaching for 8.5 years and has two playoff wins and never sniffed a champ game?

 

[CPanther95]

And I don't know how the Rams could have played much better on offense.

They didn't have to, they ran the ball at will. If they had managed a stop or two, we might have actually seen the game plan McVay had put together.

... because we know damn well his game plan wasn't to run the ball exclusively and primarily with his backup RB.

 

[CyberB0b]

That's what happens in the NFL when you change. Change is good.

Continuity is only good if you continue with something that has worked at the highest level.

Jason Garrett should never have been given this much time.

Exactly. Rams are a great example. Look at what they had with Jeff Fisher vs what they have now.

Garrett inherited an old, declining team that was weak on the offensive and defensive lines at a time when Jerry was running the draft.

He had to fight to get Jerry to release Gurode, James, Brooking, etc.

Garret preached youth.

He had to convince Jerry to stop wasting first-round picks on shiny toys and build the offensive line.

He had to endure Jerry's daliances with guys like Greg Hardy and Randy Gregory.

For those things, I'll always appreciate Garrett.

But it's time.

That offensive line that we have invested so many resources in has contributed to franchise high sack counts.

 

[Gameover]

Dude, they were literally 4-12 the year before McVay showed up. Goff was terrible. You don’t get to rewrite history just to fit your narrative.

Garrett has won 32 games with—as many point out on this forum ad nauseam—the 135th pick.

And we all knew the Rams had a talented roster

Full context is needed

 

[Gameover]

To be fair, Garrett has done something McVay’s never done. He took a 12-4 team and turned it back around into a 4-12 team. Maybe we should have given McVay that one?

No QB

Proper context is key

 

[Gameover]

No QB

Proper context is key

 

[Common Sense]

Garrett has won 32 games with—as many point out on this forum ad nauseam—the 135th pick.

And we all knew the Rams had a talented roster

Full context is needed

If we’re talking about full context, Garrett has never gone to the playoffs twice in a row. Ever.

 

[Common Sense]

No QB

Proper context is key

This is a myth that needs to stop. Most teams do not completely tank when their starting QB goes down. One of them just won a Super Bowl. 4-12 is 4-12. That’s the only context that matters.

 

[Gameover]

If we’re talking about full context, Garrett has never gone to the playoffs twice in a row. Ever.

He’s never had good defensive personnel. Including this year. Getting close, but the DT position is just too weak

 

[Sydla]

He’s never had good defensive personnel. Including this year. Getting close, but the DT position is just too weak

Can you let us all in on when it will be a good enough roster so we can properly judge Garrett? That would be a big help. Thanks!

 

[tyke1doe]

What McVay does is actually remarkably simplistic, he’s essentially running a combination of West Coast and Wing T concepts out of bunch formations. Whereas most coaches are trying to spread the field in this era, he’s packing it in and allowing himself to run effectively against even stacked boxes due to the sheer numbers he has near the LOS. He’s also creating mental errors by defenders struggling to pass off receives in the close confines of these bunch formations.

The downside of his scheme is despite all the motion and glitter, there really isn’t much variation on what they do week to week and they really run about 10 base plays out of different formations. It’s going to get figured out.

Well, he got to a Super Bowl before the rest of the league figured it out. Shrug.

 

[Dre11]

And the excuses for Garrett and downplays of what other coaches accomplished continues on.

It really is going to be interesting to see if some of you guys ever actually wake up to the reality that is our head coach. Like is there a point in time when you just say, "You know what? This guy isn't that good and maybe we should move on............"

10 years? 15 years? Two decades?

He might still be at home with no rings but he'd have proven in 2 years he's more likely to win one than the guy we've employed for 8.

Your phone is doing weird things. It somehow autocorrected “took over a 4-12 team” to “took over a team loaded with talent.”

Yeah the team was 4-12 Yet loaded, at some point it was going to come together, much like the Browns are trending now, even with a Coach that was fired.

 

[tyke1doe]

Can you let us all in on when it will be a good enough roster so we can properly judge Garrett? That would be a big help. Thanks!

Who has to coach when you have blue chippers up and down your roster?
Isn't the coach supposed to give you some advantage when you're less than your challenge?

 

[Common Sense]

Yeah the team was 4-12 Yet loaded, at some point it was going to come together, much like the Browns are trending now, even with a Coach that was fired.

And how are we going to feel when the Browns start winning more playoff games than us?

 

[Sydla]

Yeah the team was 4-12 Yet loaded, at some point it was going to come together, much like the Browns are trending now, even with a Coach that was fired.

So McVay had little to do with it? Instead the Rams were just gonna come together at some point under any coach and take off?

 

[Gameover]

This is a myth that needs to stop. Most teams do not completely tank when their starting QB goes down. One of them just won a Super Bowl. 4-12 is 4-12. That’s the only context that matters.

That team had a backup QB who I will argue has played at a higher level than any QB this decade. I’ll put Foles 2013 vs any QB this decade, and regained his 2013 form in last years playoffs.

The Cowboys had Weeden and god awful Cassel. And they made a terrible decision to go from Murray to Randle. Big time downgrade

 

[khiladi]

2016 Jason Garrett was the 2018 Sean McVay.

(another post that serves so purpose here).

Defenses adjusted to our 2016 team and Garrett suddenly got dumber. The same thing could happen to McVay and if you look at NFL history, it usually does.

How’s that possible when McVay controls play calling and Garrett got play calling stripped from him in 2014.

It would be more accurate to say Linehan was McVay, but then that wouldn’t suit your biased infatuation with the walk around HC and you blaming Linehan for Garrett and Dak’s failures..