Should QB's be limited how much they make?

[millennial_legend]

Top 1% pay approx 50 percent of all Fed Income taxes per CNBC which is hardly a conservative source. Stated another way the top 1% are paying more in Fed taxes than the bottom 95%. You think it should be higher than that?

They should pay 70% marginal tax of all personal income over $1 million in a year, and 99% marginal tax of all personal income over $5 million in a year.

Everything below $50K shouldn't be taxable, 50K-250K should be 5%, 250K-500K should be 10%, and 500K-1M should be 25%.

 

[millennial_legend]

The filing in multiple states is just weird. Is this a new thing that all corps do? Go on a business trip, and you have to file income taxes in the state where you take the trip?

As for our relative preferences for a republic or a unitary state, I'll leave my rantings on that to twitter, if they ever cease my suspension.

#LearnToCode

If you're a W2 office employee, your income tax is filed in your home base state as per the employer database. If you go on a business trip under 30 days you won't be taxed out of state. But for athletes there is a special exception, google it if you'd like.

Also, if you're a 1099-Misc independent contractor, you're usually taxed everywhere you work likely even if you only went to another state for a day or two.

 

[millennial_legend]

First I'm TOTALLY opposed to a socialistic type league where the league sets limits on how much a player can make. We live in a free enterprise capitalism society. Right now the league minimum is based on vested years and that's how it should be so a player with 5 or 6 years in makes more than a rookie as it should be. Also there's a rookie wage scale that basically is the first player taken in the draft sets the top dollar and there's a formula that determines the most that can be offered and then all picks after the first pick's contract get smaller until the last player drafter makes the rookie minimum if he makes the team. The rookie salaries are slotted. The days of a rookie making a huge contract larger than many vets is gone.

Since the cap started it's been up to the teams to manage their money. Some have done better than others but no team had to start out with all the dead money the Cowboys had to and that's why it's taken until this past season for them to get out of cap he11.
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But you can't have a half-*** socialist league (what we have now), that's much worse than having a fully socialist league (capped teams, and capped players). This is the problem, it ruins the league by discouraging team building and penalizes teams that draft well by disallowing them to re-sign their own.

I'm ok with a fully capitalist league, but the hypocritical owners don't want that so it's a moot point.

 

[DallasEast]

You limit the cap number on QB's, the rest of the position cap hits will rise.

I wouldn't mind something like what the NHL does, but honestly I don't really care if they cap it or not.

@DallasEast , IMO I believe even the richest owners like a cap. It helps them maximize profits. Sure, you could try to build an "all-star" team at 300mil, but if you already have a sold out stadium and make the playoffs most years, what additional money will you make, by spending and extra 100mil plus?

Your questions are predicated upon a financial model mandated by a hard cap. The answers are relative. The NBA has a soft cap. The MLB has no cap (with a luxury tax 'limitation'). Owners in other sports leagues fund player contracts. Owners in other sports leagues maximize their profits after funding player contracts. Should the public give all NFL owners a moral greed loophole simply because they operate under a hard cap?

I would say no. Billionaires are not an exception. If any individual has the option to spend in order to achieve a goal, they will either do so or refuse to do so. There are owners who will seek to maximize their profits while spending as much as necessary to win. There are owners who actually fit the stick-wad profile. Jerry Jones had already demonstrated he was leaning heavily to the former description with his contract spending in the 90's. Of course, every owner will not have the same mindset as Jones when it comes to paying players but the few owners who would not be opposed to the idea should not be penalized by the owners who prefer to 'maximize their profits' at all costs (no pun intended).

 

[rags747]

They should pay 70% marginal tax of all personal income over $1 million in a year, and 99% marginal tax of all personal income over $5 million in a year.

Everything below $50K shouldn't be taxable, 50K-250K should be 5%, 250K-500K should be 10%, and 500K-1M should be 25%.

Never happen pal, but one day maybe you will see a brightly colored Unicorn.

 

[millennial_legend]

Never happen pal, but one day maybe you will see a brightly colored Unicorn.

Not in this darn country at least for awhile, but don't you agree it'd be a great thing?

 

[rags747]

Not in this darn country at least for awhile, but don't you agree it'd be a great thing?

So when our favorite qb Dak Prescott signs his big $25m per year contract he should have to pay tax at the rate of 99% on $20m, never happen and no I don’t think that is a very good idea.

 

[millennial_legend]

So when our favorite qb Dak Prescott signs his big $25m per year contract he should have to pay tax at the rate of 99% on $20m, never happen and no I don’t think that is a very good idea.

How is it not a good idea? It prevents way too big of a piece of the pie to go to one person. It also mitigates having generations of aristocratic brat kids who had everything handed to them on a silver platter. It also generates a lot of extra tax revenue that can go towards actually being the best nation in the world (healthcare wise, infrastructure wise, etc) instead of just pretending it is the best because of their cute little GDP figure.

How is it fair that one person can have so much over another, equally deserving person just because they won the genetic lottery? They already get to be big celebs and get paid handsomely to do their favorite thing in life... sheesh.

 

[HungryLion]

How is it not a good idea? It prevents way too big of a piece of the pie to go to one person. How is it fair that one person can have so much over another, equally deserving person just because they won the genetic lottery? They already get to be big celebs and get paid handsomely to do their favorite thing in life... sheesh.

Relax bro.

This isn’t a political forum.

We all have our own opinions but let’s save that for another board.

 

[millennial_legend]

Relax bro.

This isn’t a political forum.

We all have our own opinions but let’s save that for another board.

Also, in no way is my post attempting to be anti-player or pro-owner. I also think the owners should be paying much higher taxes on their profits than they are. They shouldn't be exempt from paying 99% marginal after a certain amount. If anything, it will give owners incentives to lower ticket prices so more actual fans like us (instead of the rich suit-and-tie types that don't care about football and are there just to be there) can go to the games, and this would in turn help the team because these actual fans who aren't spoiled casuals are more likely to be the loud and rabid types who actually care to make noise and scream in Aaron Rodgers' ear when the Cowboys are on defense. It's much harder to play offense when you're going... "ready, GO!... ready GO!" opposed to... "green 19, quick jerry, liz liz, 54 is the mike, green 19, green 19 HUT HUT!"

 

[Swanny]

Dear Fellow Fanzone Freaks--- I am so sick and tired of how much money QB's make in NFL compared

the rest of the players on a team...plus it cripples the team from being able to put quality players

at other positions....we have all heard the top 6 QB's who make the most money in NFL were not even

in the playoffs...i am so sick of it...the good teams have QB's that take less so other players can make

more and have a better team...i wish Dak would step up and say...i am only taking 15 mil a year cause

i want and need good players around me!!...but he wont...he will be a money grabber probably

what do you all think????..thanks for your views in advance

sincerely
GORICO

No they shouldn't. I think the salary cap should be lowered then NOT count the QBs contract towards the salary cap

 

[millennial_legend]

I feel like the #1 problem with Jerryworld is the lack of homefield advantage, and it's mostly because the ticket prices price out most real true-blooded Cowboy fans and mainly cater to rich casual suit-and-tie types that aren't all that attached and are just there for the show.

 

[Doomsday101]

Dear Fellow Fanzone Freaks--- I am so sick and tired of how much money QB's make in NFL compared

the rest of the players on a team...plus it cripples the team from being able to put quality players

at other positions....we have all heard the top 6 QB's who make the most money in NFL were not even

in the playoffs...i am so sick of it...the good teams have QB's that take less so other players can make

more and have a better team...i wish Dak would step up and say...i am only taking 15 mil a year cause

i want and need good players around me!!...but he wont...he will be a money grabber probably

what do you all think????..thanks for your views in advance

sincerely
GORICO

I tend to agree that QB make too much. Granted they take the most blame for a loss but reality is the QB is also the most dependent position on the field. He relies on OL to protect him and if they fail he fails, he relies on WR who can run the routs and make the tough catches. I think the position should be paid well but I think some of these QB have gotten carried away with these contracts. It is not even about the money per say it tends to be about being the highest paid as if it is status

 

[rags747]

Also, in no way is my post attempting to be anti-player or pro-owner. I also think the owners should be paying much higher taxes on their profits than they are. They shouldn't be exempt from paying 99% marginal after a certain amount. If anything, it will give owners incentives to lower ticket prices so more actual fans like us (instead of the rich suit-and-tie types that don't care about football and are there just to be there) can go to the games, and this would in turn help the team because these actual fans who aren't spoiled casuals are more likely to be the loud and rabid types who actually care to make noise and scream in Aaron Rodgers' ear when the Cowboys are on defense. It's much harder to play offense when you're going... "ready, GO!... ready GO!" opposed to... "green 19, quick jerry, liz liz, 54 is the mike, green 19, green 19 HUT HUT!"

Are you of this country the USA?

 

[buybuydandavis]

To be fair, Brady was taking below market contracts way before he ever married a Super Model. In fact, Dak should have never brought that up in his discussions about his contract. You don't involve another person's family in things like this, no matter what the point is, you are trying to get across. Seriously, one of the few stupid things I've seen Dak do IMO.

I think it comes down to how much you want to win. Dak is not, I repeat, not the kind of QB who can be successful with lessor talent around him. If he wants to continue to make money and be successful, then I think he has to think about cap implications. If his goal is to make all the money he can, in order to secure his own situation, then make the contract demands. I would just say this, I think that there is something to be learned from the Aaron Rogers and Joe Flacco situations.

I don't think Dak brought Brady in, Brady was brought in by others arguing that Dak shouldn't be trying to get his market value.

How much does Dak want to win? Everybody wants to win. The question is what game they're trying to win. For us it's a game. For Dak it's his life. Winning at life is how well you take care of your family, not how many trophies you get for throwing a ball.

When teams chew up players and spit them out, we hear "it's a business". It's a business from the player's perspective as well. It's their job to make money for their families.

What people don't get about Jerry is that he's been the NFL champion owner for years. I think he's gone beyond most valuable NFL franchise to most valuable sports franchise in the world. He's a businessman. That's the game he's playing. He's in the sports entertainment business, and he's #1.

 

[buybuydandavis]

How is it not a good idea? It prevents way too big of a piece of the pie to go to one person. It also mitigates having generations of aristocratic brat kids who had everything handed to them on a silver platter.

High income tax rates are what cements a wealthy aristocracy in place. It protects them from competition from those who work for a living.

If you want to attack concentrations of wealth, tax wealth, not income. The wealthy don't realize income on their wealth, they roll over their capital gains into accumulating asset value.

The political "fight" over raising income taxes to tax the wealthy is a heads they win, tails you lose shell game of the ruling class, to keep the tax argument focused on income instead of wealth.

 

[garyv]

Dear Fellow Fanzone Freaks--- I am so sick and tired of how much money QB's make in NFL compared

the rest of the players on a team...plus it cripples the team from being able to put quality players

at other positions....we have all heard the top 6 QB's who make the most money in NFL were not even

in the playoffs...i am so sick of it...the good teams have QB's that take less so other players can make

more and have a better team...i wish Dak would step up and say...i am only taking 15 mil a year cause

i want and need good players around me!!...but he wont...he will be a money grabber probably

what do you all think????..thanks for your views in advance

sincerely
GORICO

Personally I think every position in the NFL should have Caps on Salaries

 

[JD_KaPow]

I tend to agree that QB make too much. Granted they take the most blame for a loss but reality is the QB is also the most dependent position on the field. He relies on OL to protect him and if they fail he fails, he relies on WR who can run the routs and make the tough catches. I think the position should be paid well but I think some of these QB have gotten carried away with these contracts. It is not even about the money per say it tends to be about being the highest paid as if it is status

The QBs aren't deciding on their own salaries. They can only get paid what the owners are willing to pay them.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Personally I think every position in the NFL should have Caps on Salaries

Why?

 

[Dre11]

Dear Fellow Fanzone Freaks--- I am so sick and tired of how much money QB's make in NFL compared

the rest of the players on a team...plus it cripples the team from being able to put quality players

at other positions....we have all heard the top 6 QB's who make the most money in NFL were not even

in the playoffs...i am so sick of it...the good teams have QB's that take less so other players can make

more and have a better team...i wish Dak would step up and say...i am only taking 15 mil a year cause

i want and need good players around me!!...but he wont...he will be a money grabber probably

what do you all think????..thanks for your views in advance

sincerely
GORICO

It's the most important position on the field and the market dictates their salary. Pay them.