Sign Jonathan Martin

[AbeBeta]

I would. A lot of the stuff that originally came out wasn't true or grossly misrepresented.

You either haven't read the report or are too agenda soaked to comprehend the contents

 

[Nightman]

You either haven't read the report or are too agenda soaked to comprehend the contents

Why do you have to try to make it personal? I completely disagree with your point of view, so what? I think the fact that most of their teammates sided with Incognito means a lot more than your analysis. Maybe you should do some further reading yourself, because I read a lot of the report and all of the texts. I just don't buy the victim angle.

If Martin played along and befriended Incognito as a way to deal with the perceived problems, how was Incognito supposed to know it was all fake? Martin's whole persona over 2 years was a lie. Incognito is a meathead football player, not a psychiatrist. He never told him how he really felt. He just played along until he decided he had enough and completely hung Incognito out to dry. I would be mad to.

 

[coult44]

I have a question. Why do some of you want anything that has to do with drama in Dallas? Haven't we had enough? I just want good football and no more BS. No more glamour. No more primadonnas. . No more drama. Pure, and hardnose, go to work and get the job done, types of players. I'd rather have 22 Marshawn Lynch type, don't talk to the media kind of players. Enough with the football porn, entertainment oriented, ME players. Give me accountability. Guys who are sick of the process. Guys who are tired of hanging their heads and moping off the field. Guys who would rather get in someone's butt and demand a higher level of football than be depressed and play the victim to the media...It's time to change things in Big D, not bring in more crap to add to the pile we already have!!!

 

[AbeBeta]

Why do you have to try to make it personal? I completely disagree with your point of view, so what? I think the fact that most of their teammates sided with Incognito means a lot more than your analysis. Maybe you should do some further reading yourself, because I read a lot of the report and all of the texts. I just don't buy the victim angle.

If Martin played along and befriended Incognito as a way to deal with the perceived problems, how was Incognito supposed to know it was all fake? Martin's whole persona over 2 years was a lie. Incognito is a meathead football player, not a psychiatrist. He never told him how he really felt. He just played along until he decided he had enough and completely hung Incognito out to dry. I would be mad to.

Personal? Not at all. I just see someone expressing a totally ignorant perspective, so I feel the need to comment

 

[Nightman]

Personal? Not at all. I just see someone expressing a totally ignorant perspective, so I feel the need to comment

I think you are a jerk on top of being ignorant. I guess you like to try to bully people yourself. I'm not your buddy Martin, so good luck with that.

 

[Nirvana]

He was suicidal before, how do we know he won't be suicidal again after blowing a few games or getting Romo injured? If you're the GM do you want that risk? That and the wrong player make up for OL, no way. He's trouble. I doubt the players want him either, having broken the code and all. Screw this guy.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

No matter which side you are on the Garrett coin...soft or positive..you'd have to think Martin would do well in the current Cowboys environment.

My point exactly. This has been our environment for 10 years or so. It's not changing. Us or the Seahawks/Patriots are the perfect fit for Martin. Bring him down here and let him meet some veterans/team leaders. Sit him down with Romo, Ware, Lee and Witten. Could get him for a 3-4 year contract at a bargain price. For those of you who think this whole thing is ridiculous, well, there is no reason we can't benefit with a tremendous young player at a huge discount.


+++ after the initial press rush from the signing dies down the media frenzy will completely stop as no one will expect Martin to start this season. It's the optimal situation for both. Very feasible.

 

[dogunwo]

Why do you have to try to make it personal? I completely disagree with your point of view, so what? I think the fact that most of their teammates sided with Incognito means a lot more than your analysis. Maybe you should do some further reading yourself, because I read a lot of the report and all of the texts. I just don't buy the victim angle.

If Martin played along and befriended Incognito as a way to deal with the perceived problems, how was Incognito supposed to know it was all fake? Martin's whole persona over 2 years was a lie. Incognito is a meathead football player, not a psychiatrist. He never told him how he really felt. He just played along until he decided he had enough and completely hung Incognito out to dry. I would be mad to.

He never told him Icognito how he felt? Didn't Richie say Martin told him he was contemplating suicide at one point? What part of the report wasn't true and how do you know that, because Richie said so?

 

[skinsscalper]

My point exactly. This has been our environment for 10 years or so. It's not changing. Us or the Seahawks/Patriots are the perfect fit for Martin. Bring him down here and let him meet some veterans/team leaders. Sit him down with Romo, Ware, Lee and Witten. Could get him for a 3-4 year contract at a bargain price. For those of you who think this whole thing is ridiculous, well, there is no reason we can't benefit with a tremendous young player at a huge discount.


+++ after the initial press rush from the signing dies down the media frenzy will completely stop as no one will expect Martin to start this season. It's the optimal situation for both. Very feasible.

There's the flaw in the entire premise. Martin is in no way, shape, or form a tremendous player. He was replaced on both sides of the line and relegated to a back up. Add to that the drama involved and sounds like a terrible idea from the get go. Tremendous young player? Please.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

There's the flaw in the entire premise. Martin is in no way, shape, or form a tremendous player. He was replaced on both sides of the line and relegated to a back up. Add to that the drama involved and sounds like a terrible idea from the get go. Tremendous young player? Please.

How much of him being removed was from this situation brewing? He showed a lot of promise his rookie season.

 

[Nightman]

He never told him Icognito how he felt? Didn't Richie say Martin told him he was contemplating suicide at one point? What part of the report wasn't true and how do you know that, because Richie said so?

He said it was about his level of play from what I understand.

After dealing with AbeBeta, I really don't feel the desire to debate this issue anymore. You guys can believe what ever you want.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Jon Martin is a beta male. I wouldnt have that emotional trainwreck anywhere near my football team.

 

[coult44]

How much of him being removed was from this situation brewing? He showed a lot of promise his rookie season.

I would call Tyron Smith tremendous. Martin is a potential guy at best....

 

[Death Star]

Why would anyone want Incognito, he's the textbook definition of locker room cancer. How many schools did he get kicked out of in college? Good lord.

That said, don't want Martin either. Regardless of the bullying stuff or him being soft or whatever, truth of the matter is he just wasn't very good at his job. Kinda pointless if it's not even an upgrade.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Why would anyone want Incognito, he's the textbook definition of locker room cancer. How many schools did he get kicked out of in college? Good lord.

I don't want either Incognito or Martin, .. but Incognito is not a locker-room cancer.

Not one Dolphin teammate has spoken out against him.

 

[CashMan]

I don't want either Incognito or Martin, .. but Incognito is not a locker-room cancer.

Not one Dolphin teammate has spoken out against him.

Other than the ones who contributed, did anyone speak out against Martin, other than a "snitch" comment? Do you think it is a coincidence that Igcognito has been on a few teams?

 

[WV Cowboy]

Other than the ones who contributed, did anyone speak out against Martin, other than a "snitch" comment? Do you think it is a coincidence that Igcognito has been on a few teams?

I am not speaking up for Incognito, I think he is a loser. I have seen guys like that through sports that I played, .. and I always had issues with bullies.

This is not my opinion.

But the fact that nobody has spoken out against him speaks volumes to me.

 

[CashMan]

I am not speaking up for Incognito, I think he is a loser. I have seen guys like that through sports that I played, .. and I always had issues with bullies.

This is not my opinion.

But the fact that nobody has spoken out against him speaks volumes to me.

But, what is louder is the fact, is that no one has spoken out for him.

 

[dragon_mikal]

Some of the comments on hear worry me, lol.

I don't want this guy because of the baggage he will bring and how it might effect the locker room but I don't dislike the guy and think he did the right thing. Being a man isn't about bravado or retaliation. That's high school BS and if you still think that way grow up...

NFL players are employees of a massive corporation and just like you and I are protected from harassment at our places of work so are they. The real question is why do some of you think they aren't and that they should just "take it"?

 

[Venger]

There's a kind of person you want with you in a foxhole or on a line of scrimmage. And Martin ain't it.