Simms Slams Cowboy Crowds & He Just Might Be Right

[YosemiteSam]

Dallas Fans are the best Fans in the NFL.

Looks around CowboysZone. Umm.. Some of the best fans in the NFL. Some...not so much! :laugh2:

 

[sonnyboy]

Phil Simms on a radio interview tonight...

Quote..."Dallas has the biggest and best stadium with the largest fan base in the NFL, but they are the only team in the NFL without a home field advantage."

Those of you who live in Dallas and are season ticket holders can probably attest to the validity of this, but I think the general consensus is we have a wine and cheese crowd that will never be confused with "intimidating."

I'm also curious as to the difference between Cowboy Stadium and Texas Stadium as far as noise.

Translation: I know my Giants are getting their tails kicked this weekend so instead of discussing the actual game, I'll just take a shot at the Cowboy fans.

 

[DallasEast]

Translation: I know my Giants are getting their tails kicked this weekend so instead of discussing the actual game, I'll just take a shot at the Cowboy fans.

:wink2:

 

[baj1dallas]

Phil Simms on a radio interview tonight...

Quote..."Dallas has the biggest and best stadium with the largest fan base in the NFL, but they are the only team in the NFL without a home field advantage."

Detroit and Jacksonville don't exactly have a homefield advantage these days either.

 

[baj1dallas]

live in Atlanta awhile and you see the same thing--laid back fans who really do not go the extra mile to be the '12th man' on the field

At least their stadium is actually in Atlanta.

 

[theebs]

Theebs, sorry it took so long to get back on your question but I was driving from Jacksonville to Orlando so it might have been an ESPN station, I think it's called Game Night. Don't know who the host was.

thanks I will look for it.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

At least the Cowboys manage to sell out every game. From a TV viewing perspective, Dallas fans start out loud, then they get discouraged by a penalty or a three and out by the offense. When is the last time the Cowboys scored on the opening drive in a home game? That type of thing seems to get the Dallas crowd pumped up and they stay in it throughout the game. Remember the Monday nighter against Philly last year? Boom! KO return by Felix. Boom! Bomb TD to TO. The fans went crazy and never let up. I think the product on the field is a big factor. The Cowboys are 5-1 at the new stadium, but losing the opening game to NYG took some of the steam out of everybody. That's just my TV viewing take.

 

[theebs]

well I looked all over for the podcast and I cant find it anywhere. Oh well if someone comes up with it, post it here if you can!

 

[utrunner07]

Translation: I know my Giants are getting their tails kicked this weekend so instead of discussing the actual game, I'll just take a shot at the Cowboy fans.

EXACTLY!!!!

 

[StanleySpadowski]

See the par where the price forces out some of the rowdier people in my answer? But then I wouldn't put anything past a Spurs fan and their perception of Dallas. They seem to have been working under the misconception that Duncan has never moved when he sets a screen for his entire career.

The face value of Dallas and Pittsburgh tickets are close enough in price that it shouldn't make a difference and Pittsburgh tickets have a significantly higher mark up on the secondary market so if anyone is pricing out the "blue collar" fan, it would appear to be the Steelers.

 

[Doomsay]

I've only been to a couple of home games, but they where among the quietest events that I've ever attended - certainly much less energy than at Northeastern or Midwestern NFL stadiums that I've visited.

One Dallas weekend I made the football Troika - A director at my company took us to his son's high school game (Greenhill) then we flew to Austin to see Texas Oklahoma State and it was back to Dallas on Sunday for a Giants game. The School team crowds were among the most revved-up I've ever seen. The Cowboy fans were so quiet, I could hold a normal conversation throughout most of the game. I was at the home Vikings game a few years ago and I got nasty looks for challenging a few Vikings fans that were abusing our entire section.

Weird.

 

[RoadRunner]

Phil Simms on a radio interview tonight...

Quote..."Dallas has the biggest and best stadium with the largest fan base in the NFL, but they are the only team in the NFL without a home field advantage."

Those of you who live in Dallas and are season ticket holders can probably attest to the validity of this, but I think the general consensus is we have a wine and cheese crowd that will never be confused with "intimidating."

I'm also curious as to the difference between Cowboy Stadium and Texas Stadium as far as noise.

We are 5-1 at home. Members of the team have commented on the loudness of the new stadium seating capacity. This is bunk.

 

[jterrell]

The new stadium is definitely better than the old one and the one game I did attend was against Washington and for a game where we spit the bit on offense all day we had a good, loud crowd.

Just because every fan isn't a scum bucket who wants to pour beer on every opposing fan doesn't make the crowd suck.

I'd much rather walk around and see the chicks in those tight jeans and high heels then see a bunch of guys in raiders-style spiked shoulderpads who thought bathing was optional.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Simms is a Cowboy-hating tool. He and Parcells, and anything else related to the Giants, can just go back to New York and **** themselves!

 

[RoadRunner]

Houston is a very international city, an increasing amount of out of staters are fleeing to Texas as tax exiles and for economic opportunity.

But of course they vote the same way in Houston as they did in the original place they came from so that the taxes climb back up. These people need to change the way they vote, not flee to new areas and vote for the same exact people that will do the predictable thing and raise taxes as an answer for everything.

 

[RoadRunner]

I've only been to a couple of home games, but they where among the quietest events that I've ever attended - certainly much less energy than at Northeastern or Midwestern NFL stadiums that I've visited.

One Dallas weekend I made the football Troika - A director at my company took us to his son's high school game (Greenhill) then we flew to Austin to see Texas Oklahoma State and it was back to Dallas on Sunday for a Giants game. The School team crowds were among the most revved-up I've ever seen. The Cowboy fans were so quiet, I could hold a normal conversation throughout most of the game. I was at the home Vikings game a few years ago and I got nasty looks for challenging a few Vikings fans that were abusing our entire section.

Weird.

Bull. You made this up.

 

[jterrell]

But of course they vote the same way in Houston as they did in the original place they came from so that the taxes climb back up. These people need to change the way they vote, not flee to new areas and vote for the same exact people that will do the predictable thing and raise taxes as an answer for everything.

Taxes aren't low in Texas, that is a myth. We just have no state income tax.
We have some of the highest taxes in other areas besides income such as property tax. I own two houses(lease 1 out) and property taxes absolutely stink

But thankfully it is not as bad as New York state much less New York City.

A lot of charts don't factor in property tax or local sales taxes so we look better tax wise than we are realistically.

 

[adbutcher]

Taxes aren't low in Texas, that is a myth. We just have no state income tax.
We have some of the highest taxes in other areas besides income such as property tax. I own two houses(lease 1 out) and property taxes absolutely stink

But thankfully it is not as bad as New York state much less New York City.

A lot of charts don't factor in property tax or local sales taxes so we look better tax wise than we are realistically.

 

[jterrell]

I've only been to a couple of home games, but they where among the quietest events that I've ever attended - certainly much less energy than at Northeastern or Midwestern NFL stadiums that I've visited.

One Dallas weekend I made the football Troika - A director at my company took us to his son's high school game (Greenhill) then we flew to Austin to see Texas Oklahoma State and it was back to Dallas on Sunday for a Giants game. The School team crowds were among the most revved-up I've ever seen. The Cowboy fans were so quiet, I could hold a normal conversation throughout most of the game. I was at the home Vikings game a few years ago and I got nasty looks for challenging a few Vikings fans that were abusing our entire section.

Weird.

Texas High School football is louder than college games and college games are louder than Pro games on a per person basis by a country mile.

Sadly, yes, this is true!

But big-time Texas High School football games are louder than Yankee/Red Sox games.

Not many events even compare to say the 1990 Carter-Odessa Permian football game at Texas Stadium. People stood all game and stomped on those aluminum seats like a drum chorus.

It all goes back to something adb said earlier... how much skin is involved. The vast majority of Texas high school kids are wholly committed to their high schools. And Texas high schools are judged first and foremost by how many games they win in football!

TAMU and Tech games in Lubbock were unbelievably fun experiences. Not as fun as high school games where you know most everyone in the stands but still exciting.

As we have proven on this forum there are all types of folks who are Cowboy fans and some we simply can't stand, lol, so that united front thing isn't as strong. And unlike the typical 15-20 year old I have to get up and go to work Monday morning~

 

[Danny White]

It's tough to compare college to pro... with college, you have crazy drunk kids there and it's hard to top their enthusiasm.

But even among college crowds there's a big difference.

I was at the OU/OSU game last weekend, and the difference in noise from the student section and the alum/donor section was night and day. The student section stood the whole time, yelled the whole time. I was in the donor section and people didn't stand at all, even though they did yell.

That mirrors a lot more closely of what I usually see at pro games... less standing and less noise, but still good enthusiasm.