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AmberBeer said:
Lost credibility with that statement. The team has made adjustments if you've been paying attention. They just have been struggling with a inept backup in Weeden and a QB in Cassel that's only been with the team for a few weeks. Combine that with an inexplicable lack of turnovers and you see the results. I knows it's much easier for fans to start blaming folks but it's not that simple and smart fans understand that.
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Smart doesn't equal taking something obvious like injuries and moving forward. There are only a small group of teams with franchise QBs. The rest of the league deals with the leftovers. Backups come in every year and many win games. Weeden won as a starter in Cleveland and has been in our system 2 years...taking many practice snaps last year because Tony got rest days. Cassell was a Pro Bowler as a starter in KC in 2010 and won games as a backup. We haven't had a backup win a game in 5 YEARS. That's crazy. Garrett outlier season was last year when we got lucky and had a healthy Romo for a majority of games. The NY Jets are 5-3 with a rookie head coach and the pupu platter of Fitpatrick/Geno Smith. Are they better than our backups? Not really. They just have a better game plan. Garrett had trouble adjusting before last year and the same thing is rearing its head this year.
 
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I honestly believe everyone expects it to be close with Romo out... Injuries are not an excuse. PIT is winning games with their 3rd string QB. We should be too.
 
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HoustonFrog said:
Smart doesn't equal taking something obvious like injuries and moving forward. There are only a small group of teams with franchise QBs. The rest of the league deals with the leftovers. Backups come in every year and many win games. Weeden won as a starter in Cleveland and has been in our system 2 years...taking many practice snaps last year because Tony got rest days. Cassell was a Pro Bowler as a starter in KC in 2010 and won games as a backup. We haven't had a backup win a game in 5 YEARS. That's crazy. Garrett outlier season was last year when we got lucky and had a healthy Romo for a majority of games. The NY Jets are 5-3 with a rookie head coach and the pupu platter of Fitpatrick/Geno Smith. Are they better than our backups? Not really. They just have a better game plan. Garrett had trouble adjusting before last year and the same thing is rearing its head this year.
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Very interesting thoughts. So, having read what you just wrote, I wonder (just wondering..), is it the backup QBs or is it more system related? As much as we all like to pound on Weeden and Casell, bottom line is they have both at least won elsewhere. I realize that's not saying much but when measured against an 0-3 Weeden followed by an 0-3 Cassell it does make a person wonder.
 
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AmberBeer said:
Lost credibility with that statement. The team has made adjustments if you've been paying attention. They just have been struggling with a inept backup in Weeden and a QB in Cassel that's only been with the team for a few weeks. Combine that with an inexplicable lack of turnovers and you see the results. I knows it's much easier for fans to start blaming folks but it's not that simple and smart fans understand that.
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No they haven't. We still see the same vanilla scheme on both sides of the ball. We are still as predictable as ever with our play calls whether that be run and pass and with formations. Run on every first down. No play actions and shots down field on first when teams are expecting a run. 3rd and 2 last week trying to run on Seattle's front I mean seriously? The excuses have to end. As bad as the quarterbacks have been we still should of won the last three games. The same route that keeps getting picked off and defenders sit and we keep calling that. That's on the coach. Starting Joseph Randle when it's clear he wasn't the answer instead of McFadden that's on Garrett. A flagrant lack of crossing routes, slants, and pick plays that's on Garrett.
 
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We moved up 3 slots despite the loss. I realize power rankings are generally stupid but I still find humor in them.

23. Dallas Cowboys (2-6)

Last Week: 26

The Cowboys have lost six in a row since losing Tony Romo. Prior to this season, the Cowboys' last six-game losing streak was in 1989, Troy Aikman's rookie season.
 
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Bleu Star said:
Very interesting thoughts. So, having read what you just wrote, I wonder (just wondering..), is it the backup QBs or is it more system related? As much as we all like to pound on Weeden and Casell, bottom line is they have both at least won elsewhere. I realize that's not saying much but when measured against an 0-3 Weeden followed by an 0-3 Cassell it does make a person wonder.
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And your thoughts are exactly what has been running through my head and why I wrote it. It is a legit question and to me it is scheme or gameplan. These QBs have some strengths or they wouldn't be in the league. They have won games...as starters. They aren't just rookies we are throwing into the fire. To me JG is a robot of sorts when it comes to his process and system. Romo is the dynamic or secret formula that makes it run. He can dip and dive and make throws others can't. Take that away and you have less dynamic engines trying to do a dumbed down version. A version that was pretty tough to swallow when JG was OC. We have talent on the Oline. We have been running the ball well. We have Dez back and Witten. All talent. Yet we run simple routes and still try and and be less dynamic. I don't get it. The offense this last week was as close to really good as we have gotten with the backups and we still blew it. I just have a hard time putting this all on injuries when other teams adjust and find a way to win.
 

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I honestly believe everyone expects it to be close with Romo out... Injuries are not an excuse. PIT is winning games with their 3rd string QB. We should be too.
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Because the Steelers don't rely on Ben to the point where their entire team doesn't function anymore when he goes down. It's insane to think almost every aspect of this team sucks with Romo gone. Like what are we going to do in 3-4 years?
 
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DandyDon1722 said:
To be brutally honest - I think the entire organization got a pass from Tony during those 8-8 years because it's pretty apparent that those were 4-12 teams and if that's really the case we would've been two years into a new coaching regime by now.

That being said, the personnel department has done a pretty good job recently and Jerry is slowing his roll. Garrett has shown he can inspire a 12-4 team. Now we have to see if he can turn around a 2-6 team without losing it.
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Well said. We're going to find out a lot about our team, Garrett, and the staff during the second half of this season.
 
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Ok call me stupid if you want but what does the term "stepford" mean?
 

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RunDMC said:
Skip is right. Garrett is getting a pass because of Tony being out and that's just not right. No coach should get a pass for making no adjustments, to their scheme and their game plan, not preparing their team and getting them ready to play against a division rival, and your team inexplicably finding a way to give the last three games away. That is or should be unacceptable.
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Exactly. But I don't know what you do. I don't think he should be fired, though I do think he should be on thin ice.
 
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Wizarus said:
Because the Steelers don't rely on Ben to the point where their entire team doesn't function anymore when he goes down. It's insane to think almost every aspect of this team sucks with Romo gone. Like what are we going to do in 3-4 years?
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