Skip, Stephen A: Cowboys to finish last in NFCE

tyke1doe

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I think the Giants could beat out the Cowboys for the NFC East cellar.
 

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C'mon UFC, I know we have our differences on Romo but I respect your passion for your side even though I completely disagree and to be honest, you have a valid point on my debate skills here. You are better than me. I simply don't have the time or initiative to pontificate on long and arduous debates. You're good at it, so is KJJ and Percy is a machine with statistical info backing up his points but I can't do it. In person, however and especially in a forum, I can hold my own.

Last thing - I doubt my homer ism would hinder me no less than Stephen A's homerism of Eli hinders him. He will not accept how poorly he has played the last two seasons and it invalidates some of his opinions.


I'm not comparing myself to you. Steven A would certainly kill me in a debate, I'm not really a good debater, I just post my true opinions. I have seen you debate Romo on here and I think your homer'ism blinds you, that is all. I have nothing against you, you are a fellow fan and have never personally attacked me on here, so you're cool in my book. Steve A debates for a living, so I don't think you would have a prayer, especially standing up for Romo who is a proven choker, that's all.

Skip Bayless was in your same shoes at one time and he has completely given up on Romo. Stephen A clowned Skip over and over about the Cowboys and Romo and has been spot on. Steven A may be blind to Eli but Eli gets a pass because he has led.. yes, led his team to 2 super bowls and was the super bowl MVP in both of them. Eli will be in the hall of fame because of that. Romo will always be known as a good regular season QB but non clutch in the win or go home games or the playoffs.

BTW, not sure if you have read this article or not but it is very well written and shows a Romo homer turn into a Romo realist.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8522884/making-my-peace-tony-romo

 

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OK.

They went 5-1 in the division last year, and if Romo played the last game, it would have been 6-0.

What makes you think that? The year before Romo was the weakest link on the whole team throwing 3 interceptions that were all his fault. In fact he has never done anything special in win and you're in games. The outcome of that game would have been the same regardless of QB.

Also, going 5-1 in the division was extremely lucky. Our team sucked majorly last year, it just so happened the rest of the division sucked more.. until the last game anyway. A more logical outlook would be to split with the division. Be honest with yourself.
 

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Did he chicken out like he was scared or did he see it as pointless to debate a casual fan?
Second, when people say they'd debate him as if they can hang with him, I'm not just talking about knowledge. There's a difference waging an Internet debate and waging a debate on live television. Believe me, I've been on television several times, and it's just a different world. Even the best and smartest people freeze when they have to get in front of a camera with the knowledge that you're talking to millions of people.
Stephen A. Smith is one of the best debaters on television. And then, he is a seasoned television professional. I don't know what your live debate skills are, but I wouldn't assume that they're better than Smith's.

Maybe they are. I just don't have anyway of knowing that.

OMG...are you serious? lmao!!! The fool is a blowhard Giant's fan! If he is one of your role models, I feel sorry for you.
 

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What makes you think that? The year before Romo was the weakest link on the whole team throwing 3 interceptions that were all his fault. In fact he has never done anything special in win and you're in games. The outcome of that game would have been the same regardless of QB.

Also, going 5-1 in the division was extremely lucky. Our team sucked majorly last year, it just so happened the rest of the division sucked more.. until the last game anyway. A more logical outlook would be to split with the division. Be honest with yourself.

Yo...Mr. I Ignore Anyone That Does Not Agree With Me...you need to get your act together and start living in the future and leave the past alone. If you need to resort to years past to make a point...that is just lazy as hell!

(he has me on ignore, but, I wanted to respond to his stupidity anyway) smh
 

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What makes you think that? The year before Romo was the weakest link on the whole team throwing 3 interceptions that were all his fault. In fact he has never done anything special in win and you're in games. The outcome of that game would have been the same regardless of QB.

Also, going 5-1 in the division was extremely lucky. Our team sucked majorly last year, it just so happened the rest of the division sucked more.. until the last game anyway. A more logical outlook would be to split with the division. Be honest with yourself.

Romo was outstanding in the NFC East "final" game in 2009 that was at home, there is a reason there was a 9 point swing in the betting line when Romo's surgery was announced. The 3 "win and in" games were all on the road, which is an area where all quarterbacks are worse than average.
 

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Romo was outstanding in the NFC East "final" game in 2009 that was at home, there is a reason there was a 9 point swing in the betting line when Romo's surgery was announced. The 3 "win and in" games were all on the road, which is an area where all quarterbacks are worse than average.

You are going to get on his ignore list for this post. lol
 

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OMG...are you serious? lmao!!! The fool is a blowhard Giant's fan! If he is one of your role models, I feel sorry for you.

First, what objective criteria do you offer that he isn't other than Internet expressions and exaggerated symbols?
Second, as to my point, do you know how many people would love to take Stephen A.'s job?
Third, they can't do it because he's good at what he does, and the ratings prove it.
Fourth, so what if he's a Giants fan? What does that have to do with anything? At least he's honest about it. And he has criticized the Giants too. So your point is?
Fifth, where did I say he was my role model?
Sixth, no, you don't feel sorry for me. You just threw that gratuitous statement in because you had nothing better to say. Faux sympathy.
 

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Romo was outstanding in the NFC East "final" game in 2009 that was at home, there is a reason there was a 9 point swing in the betting line when Romo's surgery was announced. The 3 "win and in" games were all on the road, which is an area where all quarterbacks are worse than average.

Dude 2009 was a long time ago and against a team we owned. I addressed his last "win and in" game and he looked horrendous. Who cares where the game was, that didn't excuse his performance. Orton played better in that game last year than Romo did in 2013. We were underdogs in that game before the odds makers knew Romo would be out.
 

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First, what objective criteria do you offer that he isn't other than Internet expressions and exaggerated symbols?
Second, as to my point, do you know how many people would love to take Stephen A.'s job?
Third, they can't do it because he's good at what he does, and the ratings prove it.
Fourth, so what if he's a Giants fan? What does that have to do with anything? At least he's honest about it. And he has criticized the Giants too. So your point is?
Fifth, where did I say he was my role model?
Sixth, no, you don't feel sorry for me. You just threw that gratuitous statement in because you had nothing better to say. Faux sympathy.

Like I said, if you think he's good for what he does and says...I feel sorry for you. It's his kind of rhetoric and how he presents it is what makes him nothing butt a blowhard. His messages are what you and others around here listen to and that is why there are so many "Romo haters" or "Cowboy haters" on this forum. And, my sympathy is not fake towards you, I really feel sorry for you if you listen to that knucklehead. Just because he is on TV does not make him the do all, be all. Archie Bunker was on TV, too! lol
 

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Dude 2009 was a long time ago and against a team we owned. I addressed his last "win and in" game and he looked horrendous. Who cares where the game was, that didn't excuse his performance. Orton played better in that game last year than Romo did in 2013. We were underdogs in that game before the odds makers knew Romo would be out.

Oh, now you want to say 2009 is a long time ago, huh? Yet you always get to use years ago to make your claim that Romo and the Cowboys lost some games? lol

Rampage in the house.

(ignore be damned,,,lol)
 

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Smith and Bayless are the poster children of the sports tabloid ESPN has become. The Cowboys could go 16-0 next season and they'll find a fault with Romo or JJ or Garrett. The only ESPN program I have watched since getting the NFL Network is Monday Night Football. And idiots like Smith and Bayless, who get paid to voice their opinions to anyone that cares enough to listen to them, are why.
 

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Dude 2009 was a long time ago and against a team we owned. I addressed his last "win and in" game and he looked horrendous. Who cares where the game was, that didn't excuse his performance. Orton played better in that game last year than Romo did in 2013. We were underdogs in that game before the odds makers knew Romo would be out.

I'm putting that game as an example because it is the only home game in the sample. As for the betting line, Dallas opened as a 2.5 favorite and closed as a 6.5 underdog
 

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C'mon UFC, . . . . . on my debate skills here. You are better than me. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . You're good at it, so is KJJ

Now thats funny right there.

He claims to have over 8 million online followers, yet as has spins like a top here he gets kicked to the curb, and you claim to be in the TV business.

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It's hard for me to gauge this team properly, because I don't know if injuries will happen again, I don't know what Romo's going to be like physically, although I know what he'll be like if it's a do-or-die game. I have no clue about the defense, because there's a new play-caller, and sometimes, that's all it takes. I still don't think there will be a passrush, and that's trouble. Don't know if they will be able to defend the pass, that's a problem. I know we can put up numbers on offense, but can we move the ball up and down the field consistently? Who knows? So since I don't know these answers, I'll say 8-8.
 

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It's hard for me to gauge this team properly, because I don't know if injuries will happen again, I don't know what Romo's going to be like physically, although I know what he'll be like if it's a do-or-die game. I have no clue about the defense, because there's a new play-caller, and sometimes, that's all it takes. I still don't think there will be a passrush, and that's trouble. Don't know if they will be able to defend the pass, that's a problem. I know we can put up numbers on offense, but can we move the ball up and down the field consistently? Who knows? So since I don't know these answers, I'll say 8-8.

Take the best case scenario if everything goes well and what you think they do record wise, and then worst case scenario record wise, and then figure with this team somewhere in the middle = 8-8 most likely again, and Red keeps his job and we make another coordinator change.
 

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Like I said, if you think he's good for what he does and says...I feel sorry for you.
No, you don't feel sorry for me. That's just patronizing rhetoric. Besides, what do you care if I think he's good at what he does?
The man is a mainstay on First Take, and ESPN has made the show its featured talk program because of Stephen A.

It's his kind of rhetoric and how he presents it is what makes him nothing butt a blowhard. His messages are what you and others around here listen to and that is why there are so many "Romo haters" or "Cowboy haters" on this forum.

I see, it's the fact he doesn't like the Cowboys. That's what's gnawing at you? No, people have hated the Cowboys since the 70s. And Romo has given critics plenty of reasons to hate him.

And, my sympathy is not fake towards you, I really feel sorry for you if you listen to that knucklehead. Just because he is on TV does not make him the do all, be all. Archie Bunker was on TV, too! lol

Again, your sympathies are fake.
Second, Archie Bunker was a fictional character. I mean, do I really have to spell out how incongruous your analogy is?
Third, and finally, despite what you THINK the FACT is that Stephen A. Smith is well regarded in journalistic circles, regarded by athletes and is a featured mainstay on one of ESPN's highest rated shows. And there are countless others who would gladly take his place, or want to take his place. He has to be on top of his game to maintain that gig.
And he's good at what he does, which is why he continues in that role and ESPN makes accommodations for his busy schedule.

You're simply mad because he isn't a Cowboys Kool-Aid drinker. Too bad. When the Cowboys start winning again, you'll have your revenge.

Until then, you'll be haunted by the words of Stephen A. Smith ... "The Cowboys always find a way to let you down." Sad, but true.
 

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If Dallas finished last in the NFC East, that would be the first and only time it's happened when Romo has been the starter for most of the season.
9-7. ..Wildcard
13-3..NFC East champ
9-7...3rd
11-5...NFC East champ
8-8...2nd
8-8...3rd
8-8...2nd

But then again, there's no guarantee he'll play the majority of the games...IMO, the only way they finish last if he went down long term.

They need that line and run game to help out the defense and QB this year.
I think they will.
Then the D just needs to be top 65% or so.
 
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