Snow White

[DemonBlood]

You are correct.

I will say though, when I was but a wee little lad those catchy musicals were a little better in my mind.

Even now I can watch some disney movies and when they break into the songs I am like....here we go lol.

Oddly.

Some things that are modern now will not appeal to the older crowd.

However when watching some old movies or cartoons, not just disney.
It is astounding what was accepted without any issue at that time.

We had some friends over early this year. They brought their child. As the adults were talking I just put on a youtube video that had a mix of different looney toons type older cartoons on for the child to watch and keep her entertained.

I was kind of shocked at a few of the cartoons that were blatant racists stereotypes.

I also have found it kind of funny over the years the type of stuff that some complain about now was normal in some cartoons.

Bugs would cross dress on occasion.
Why he normally did not wear clothes but always wore gloves.
Some cartoon characters would wear shirts but no pants.
Pepe LePew stalking and doing worse
The violence of the wile coyote/road runner cartoons.
The stupidity of him the Coyote spending so much money to buy things to catch the road runner instead of just using the money to buy food.

The only musical I've ever liked was the Buffy episode Once More, with Feeling.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

The only musical I've ever liked was the Buffy episode Once More, with Feeling.

Not really musicals but the last ones I liked was Jessica Lange in the American Horror series singing Life on Mars and the name game song.


But I will admit my old school gay side still loves the Sound of Music.

 

[Doomsday]

That for sure isn’t there roots though lol. The Disney we know and love had to evolve and it had trial and error. They’re adapting with the world they can’t stay in 1957.

5 of their first 6 full length movie releases say they were a family orientated company. They are tone deaf and losing money because of it. I celebrate every flop they make, it is well deserved.

Snow White
Pinocchio
Fantasia
Dumbo
Bambi

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

5 of their first 6 full length movie releases say they were a family orientated company. They are tone deaf and losing money because of it. I celebrate every flop they make, it is well deserved.

Snow White
Pinocchio
Fantasia
Dumbo
Bambi

They aren't tone deaf. They are adapting to the youth of 2025 not 1937. Its just a different time. I get that frustrates you but man this stuff isn't for us. Its for the children. LIke I told another poster their flops make 500 million dollars lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Not really musicals but the last ones I liked was Jessica Lange in the American Horror series singing Life on Mars and the name game song.


But I will admit my old school gay side still loves the Sound of Music.

Some of those American Horror series did have some good musical scenes and I hate musicals.

 

[Runwildboys]

The only musical I've ever liked was the Buffy episode Once More, with Feeling.

I believe that one should have won an Emmy...The episode Hush got one, and rightfully so. But this was also a great and deep episode.

 

[Juggernaut]

The stupidity of him the Coyote spending so much money to buy things to catch the road runner instead of just using the money to buy food.

Chuck Jones did try explain why Wile E. Coyote is so obsessed with wanting to eat the Road Runner at the end of the Zip Zip Hurray! short, they're a buffet of flavors to a coyote.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

They aren't tone deaf. They are adapting to the youth of 2025 not 1937.

They aren't adapting to the youth, they're trying to influence the youth.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

They aren't adapting to the youth, they're trying to influence the youth.

I mean that’s certainly possible I just don’t know how they can do it. Can they really influence a 16 year old? Seems like Disney is more catered to a younger audience.

 

[John813]

Not that I was part of the target audience, but it probably does a film no good when you hear all the bad press/stories ~a year out from when it's released. Some rage bait, but others just showing there's issues with the film and reshoots never usually go well.

Disney, IMO is in a weird position. When Iger left, they had a shift towards streaming, and getting Disney+ going. Then the board doesn't like the direction, brings Iger back which then shifts the short and long term views again. D+ series being confusing if they had to be watched to follow along or simply stand alone, some bad flops etc..
Their can't miss Marvel movies had a rough stretch after Endgame, with IMO their biggest hits being due to nostalgia with Spiderman and then Deadpool. Then there was Thor, and Dr. Strange which IMO sucked but got $$$ simply due to it being a marvel movie right after Endgame.
Most of the OG marvel stars are gone, and I'm sure Iger gave a small island of cash to RDJ to come back, but we are getting OT.

I have kids, so I watch kid movies. Pixar used to be a can't miss production when I was growing up, before and after Disney acquired them. But they had some misses and disappointments recently. Could blame the 2020 virus, but just some films didn't have that "pixar" quality imo.
Seemed like for a while Disney and Pixar were in no rush to make sequels, only when it made sense.
Some of their new IPs didn't do so well, so either by design or rushed they are making some sequels again. Moana 2 definitely had the feel of a mini TV series spun into a movie.

This whole live remake of cartoons to me has zero interest to me to watch, even though as a kid I watched them. I see a Lilo and Stitch movie is coming out... Still love the cartoon, first movie anyways, but can't say I'll be taking the kids out to the movies for that. Just wait for it on D+, if that.
Nothing to do with forbidden topics, but there's the original, I don't care to see a live action with CG of the ~same movie.

 

[Creeper]

They aren't tone deaf. They are adapting to the youth of 2025 not 1937. Its just a different time. I get that frustrates you but man this stuff isn't for us. Its for the children. LIke I told another poster their flops make 500 million dollars lol.

I respectfully disagree. This is not for the children. The children have no interest in updating stories. Children of 2025 would enjoy the Wizard of Oz, Snow White, or any of the old children's stories just as they were made. It is the adults who have changed.

If they remade Snow White into a musical without changing a thing, I am pretty sure parents would take their kids and the kids would enjoy it just like the kids of the past enjoyed the cartoons.

Disney has made a conscious effort to embed a point of view into all of their products now. No one should be surprised when fans respond negatively. But I do agree that they make money regardless so there is no reason to stop doing what they are doing and create better content.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I respectfully disagree. This is not for the children. The children have no interest in updating stories. Children of 2025 would enjoy the Wizard of Oz, Snow White, or any of the old children's stories just as they were made. It is the adults who have changed.

If they remade Snow White into a musical without changing a thing, I am pretty sure parents would take their kids and the kids would enjoy it just like the kids of the past enjoyed the cartoons.

Disney has made a conscious effort to embed a point of view into all of their products now. No one should be surprised when fans respond negatively. But I do agree that they make money regardless so there is no reason to stop doing what they are doing and create better content.

The wizard of Oz was 30 years old when I started watching it as a kid. Classics are classics at any time.

 

[Vtwin]

I mean that’s certainly possible I just don’t know how they can do it. Can they really influence a 16 year old? Seems like Disney is more catered to a younger audience.

Really?

There is science and industry built on the the psychology of influence and conditioning. Childhood and adolescence are the prime windows of influencing and conditioning. It doesn't end there.