So, You Think That Goodell Dude is a Good Commish?

[YosemiteSam]

Well, that seems like a stretch of the phrase "about the same," since London is over 1,000 miles farther (43% longer of a trip), and is 5 rather than 3 time zones different.

New York TO London is 7 hours. New York TO (against the jetstream) San Diego is 6+ hours.

Either way, it isn't a HUGE difference like it is to places like the far east.

Just don't send the 49ers to London.

btw, it's 30% difference, not 43%. 3,471 miles vs 2,433 miles = 70%

 

[casmith07]

New York TO London is 7 hours. New York TO (against the jetstream) San Diego is 6+ hours.

Either way, it isn't a HUGE difference like it is to places like the far east.

Just don't send the 49ers to London.

btw, it's 30% difference, not 43%. 3,471 miles vs 2,433 miles = 70%

San Diego to London? San Diego to Berlin?

the jetlag involved in a trip like that would make you feel like you were back in time.

 

[viman96]

For some reason I thought there was an agreement between the NFL and NCAA about Saturday games.

 

[pancakeman]

btw, it's 30% difference, not 43%. 3,471 miles vs 2,433 miles = 70%

2433 is 30% less than 3471, true, but that is another way of saying that 3471 is 143% of 2433, which means that in terms of the distance further than the shorter one, 43% further is correct.

That said, you're right to bring up travel times to the destinations as the most important factor, and I'll concede that those are more comparable.

 

[YosemiteSam]

For some reason I thought there was an agreement between the NFL and NCAA about Saturday games.

That treaty is broken. We are AT WAR! :laugh2:

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

New York TO London is 7 hours. New York TO (against the jetstream) San Diego is 6+ hours.

Either way, it isn't a HUGE difference like it is to places like the far east.

Just don't send the 49ers to London.

btw, it's 30% difference, not 43%. 3,471 miles vs 2,433 miles = 70%

Oh, gotcha.

So we'll just send New York teams to play over seas.

Everyone else is safe.

I'm on board.

 

[YosemiteSam]

2433 is 30% less than 3471, true, but that is another way of saying that 3471 is 143% of 2433, which means that in terms of the distance further than the shorter one, 43% further is correct.

That said, you're right to bring up travel time to the destination as the most important factor, and I concede that those are more comparable.

Though, they (times) are different if you are going the other direction on either flight. San Deigo to New York is a shorter flight. I believe New York to London is too. (not fighting the jetstream)

 

[Hypnotoad]

8 games overseas sounds like 8 home games for a europe teamm.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Ok, you make $50k a year. If you had a chance to double it, would you? Enough said.
Business is business. In that model, better I make money than them.

There's a gigantic difference between making $50K a year and what the NFL teams make. It's not even close.

If you don't feel like going don't go. Nobody is forcing you. Besides, if you don't go, someone else will!

So great, let's screw the fans that have been with us in the beginning!

That business model always fails in the end.

Players get more money each and every year. The salary cap isn't getting smaller every year.

Yes, and the owners keep complaining about the salary cap rise and that's a big reason why they want to re-do the CBA. Now, you have to (or at least should) re-do the current player contracts because they should get more money for more 'work.'

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I want this, I'm just saying it business wise, it would be absolutely stupid not to consider the revenue possibilities that would come with these changes.

I understand what you're saying on some levels, I just disagree that it will automatically equate to more revenue, particularly after the initial financial success. Can they sustain success 10 years down the road with this model?

I have my doubts.

There's obvious major risks with these ideas and my general feeling is that the game is wildly successful now and will continue to be increase its revenues by following the same path. Where they would get into trouble is if they tried to make risky business decisions thinking that the rewards would be great and rather infallible.

Could I be wrong? Sure. But I still think it's a very dumb move and the NFL needs to find ways to perfect their current system which is making the league absurd amounts of money rather than make radical changes.

Will anybody stop watching the game if we continue to go with 4 preseason games and 16 game regular season? I don't think so.





YAKUZA

 

[DallasEast]

There's rumblings that the NFL is looking into the possibility of expanding the season by two weeks. This might sound like Christmas coming early, but there's a few good reasons to be wary.

As one perceptive mind puts it, this idea will "blow your damn mind." And yes, the idea of two extra weeks of football gives me a good-sized chubby. Let's look at the unsourced details as reported by the Post:

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Rumblings.

The link for "one perceptive mind puts it" takes the reader to another site, where the article author's name is "samerochocinco".

"Unsourced details" always equals Questionable Journalism 101 in my book.

Goodell?

Don't like him on some issues, such as Wade Wilson, but overall, he gets my vote. Regardless, the commissioner of the National Football League is never the be all end all of all decisions. The owners will also have a say in the changes which will be adopted leaguewide. If a finger is pointed at him, it may as well be pointed at the top of the member franchises as well.

 

[joseephuss]

Are all of these ideas Goodell's or someone else's? It is a meeting to discuss different things, but it does not mean that Goodell came up with all of these ideas.

It doesn't sound like the proposal is to play all of the games on Saturday. Just one match up per week will be played on Saturday. Dallas will face New Orleans on Saturday the 19th of December. They usually incorporate Saturday games once the college season ends. They now want to start playing them sooner. I think in the end they will pass on it. It comes down to money and they would not make as much by going up against Saturday night college games than they do with their current format of waiting until the college season is over. The Thursday night games are essentially the same except you rarely see great college matchups on Thursday night.

 

[alancdc]

I like Sunday day games period. I don't care for Thursday, Sunday or Monday night games. I especiatlly don't like the idea of traveling back and forth the London. Canada or Mexico fine. Although, I can't imagine teams or communities, for that matter, would be thrilled to lose the income a home NFL game generates.

 

[YosemiteSam]

YAKUZA,

I'm not saying it's going to automatically result in huge revenues, but it can and will increase them. Look at baseball. Baseball was originally created in England, but it was never the sport it was here in the US. Baseball is now played all over the world.

Look at basketball. Basketball was invented in Springfield, Massachusetts. It too is now played all over the world. American football is not and without spreading the game or probably won't be for a very long time.

Can it double the NFL revenues. Absolutely. It can do more than that. Will it do it next year with eight games outside the US? No. That won't happen. As they say though, every long journey starts with a first step. Thats what the NFL is looking at. (though this would be the second step. Making a commitment to doing it every year)

 

[YosemiteSam]

I like Sunday day games period. I don't care for Thursday, Sunday or Monday night games. I especiatlly don't like the idea of traveling back and forth the London. Canada or Mexico fine. Although, I can't imagine teams or communities, for that matter, would be thrilled to lose the income a home NFL game generates.

I prefer Sunday and Monday games too. I DO like other day games ONLY if it means I get to see more Cowboys games since I do no longer live in the DFW area.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I could watch NFL football 8 days a week and three times on Sunday.

 

[Dallas]

Got this from ********.com, who got it from the NY Post.




Yipppeeee! :bang2:






YAKUZA

That is REDONKULOUS and will never happen. Wish in one hand Roger and what in the other.

He means well but I think a lot of his silly ideas just get in the way of doing a fairly ok job w/ the league.

He also needs to fire a certain boss of the referees and maybe get someone who is accountable next time and not someone who is just looking to excuse every blasted bad call issue that drastically effects games.

 

[JBond]

Godell stinks.

He is entirely about marketing the game. Even if it's at the expense of the game.

He is inconsistent with his "rulings" and seems to completely ignore the fiasco that is NFL officiating.

I am finding the NFL harder and harder to watch every season.

Agree with this. Guess we are old fashion. I wish he would fix the problems first before getting creative with a bunch of new programs that may or may not be successful.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I used to think getting rid of Tags was a good thing.

Now - not so much.

 

[sago1]

All the complaining means nothing. He works for the owners--period. If/when they get tired of him, his decisions, etc., they will cut him loose. He's not respnsible to the players nor to the fans--just the owners.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Taking 8 games outside the states is insane. I don't know of any city that wants to lose the revenue that they get from a home game. Add to that teams losing a home game, it's dumb.