Some new evidence in the Zimmerman case

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Cajuncowboy;4517301 said:
Point to someone defending Zimmerman. Point to a post that indicates that? And I like how you say man vs boy. Obviously you didn't read about this "boy's" character and what he was in trouble for, including attacking a bus driver. But okay. We got your agenda.

A grown man not following the direction of the police dispatcher, gets into an altercation with unarmed kid he was following and kills him. Bringing up the times the kid got into trouble like it somehow justifies what Zimmerman did, yet I am the one with an agenda.

So Zimmerman knew those past issues when he was following the boy and ended up killing him. I got into a fight with my bus driver when I was a kid, remind to stay out of your neighborhood.
 

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Tony33;4517335 said:
A grown man not following the direction of the police dispatcher, gets into an altercation with unarmed kid he was following and kills him. Bringing up the times the kid got into trouble like it somehow justifies what Zimmerman did, yet I am the one with an agenda.

So Zimmerman knew those past issues when he was following the boy and ended up killing him. I got into a fight with my bus driver when I was a kid, remind to stay out of your neighborhood.

ignore never happened so fast.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4517306 said:
What if he has more than one cut? Suppose he got one cut and the position his head was in it ran one way then later he got another cut and his head was repositioned? That would at least explain away your concerns. Or would it?

Thanks counselor.

Cajuncowboy;4517301 said:
Point to someone defending Zimmerman. Point to a post that indicates that? And I like how you say man vs boy. Obviously you didn't read about this "boy's" character and what he was in trouble for, including attacking a bus driver. But okay. We got your agenda.

Lol, really. In one breath you claim to not defending Zimmerman and the next you you indict Martin's character.

I mean come on. His agenda? If trying to point out that Martin had aggressive tendencies or trying to reaffirm how Zimmerman got his head wounds is not defending him then what is?

I think the better question is where at any point have you said other than in the broadest ephemeral terms that point to Zimmerman in any way being culpable?

I am sure that you are once again are going to bash my ability to read but give me a break.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4517063 said:
LOL!!!! CowboyMCoy is one of my best friends on here. You don't know what you are talking about. Why don't you ask him. I didn't insult anyone. Maybe their assumptions which are ludicrous in light of reality but them personally. And again, I don't care if he is guilty or not. I just want ALL SIDES OF THE MATTER CONVEYED.

Something it seems you do not.Talk about transparency. What a joke.

Oh, and go shave your Lumpkins!

Funny people would never know we're friends. On the other hand, I have been insulted on here numerous times. Of course not by Cajun.
 

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Tony33;4517327 said:
No because that wouldn't fit into the timeframe of the fight.

Really? Someone couldn't get more than one cut in a fight at separate times? :rolleyes:
 

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Tony33;4517335 said:
A grown man not following the direction of the police dispatcher, gets into an altercation with unarmed kid he was following and kills him. Bringing up the times the kid got into trouble like it somehow justifies what Zimmerman did, yet I am the one with an agenda.

So Zimmerman knew those past issues when he was following the boy and ended up killing him. I got into a fight with my bus driver when I was a kid, remind to stay out of your neighborhood.

So okay. Then would it be fair not to bring up Zimmerman's past as some have done here? Because there is a contention on the defense's side that Martin started the physical confrontation?Regardless of if he was being followed or not. I mean, if we are going to look at Zimmerman's character, then we need to look at both of their characters.

And please, stay out of my neighborhood. Thanks.
 

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justbob;4516581 said:
Sorry but that is a lie ...Maybe you can say you don't and I will some what believe you. Truth is Lying,spinning, misdirection and the other names you want to put on it happens ALL the time ..Its afact of life and a major part of our system (and yours)

No. Lying before the court will result in you being disbarred.
 

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Hoofbite;4516059 said:
Come on. That's just a gross mischaracterization and you know it.

From what has been reported, there was no toxicology tests, no seizing of the care, multiple witnesses were ignored for a good amount of time and the head honcho of the department stepped down.

If there's one thing that can be certain, it's that the police didn't do enough initially to avoid criticism.

Thanks Hoof.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;4517364 said:
Thanks counselor.



Lol, really. In one breath you claim to not defending Zimmerman and the next you you indict Martin's character.

I mean come on. His agenda? If trying to point out that Martin had aggressive tendencies or trying to reaffirm how Zimmerman got his head wounds is not defending him then what is?

I think the better question is where at any point have you said other than in the broadest ephemeral terms that point to Zimmerman in any way being culpable?

I am sure that you are once again are going to bash my ability to read but give me a break.

I see how now how justice works in your world. You come up with some idea of what happened and when someone looks at all the possibilities, you automatically think they are trying to defend someone. Rather than being interested in trying to find the truth, you just want to convict someone, truth be damned.

You have your own agenda and simply want to hang a guy without all the facts. I don't. If he is guilty, then yes, but not until. I know it galls you that he is still breathing but you just have to suck it up. Maybe you can find a New Black Panther board to go join where hating and hanging are the two things that matter most and you can find some kindred spirits.
 

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casmith07;4517564 said:
No. Lying before the court will result in you being disbarred.

Righttttttt----Give me a break CA ---I know you mean well and everyone would like to believe the no lying in the judicial system---I'm not just throwing this out there. And like I said call it lying ,spin,leading questions ,bottom line it is all the same.....Be self righteous about it if you want to at this point in your life. As I said I will be glad to talk about my CV on a pm. Not on here
 

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And to clarify one thing in my early pattern about the bloodstain patterns on Zimmerman's-head..The other poster can continue to be puzzled or confused or think they are odd. y comment are correct to pattern type ,and the distribution of the blood. Be confused or try to muddy the water if you need to --but that is a true professional explanation of the bloodstains based on that one photo.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;4517541 said:
Funny people would never know we're friends. On the other hand, I have been insulted on here numerous times. Of course not by Cajun.

Get rid of the goat and I might add you to my friend list:lmao2:
 

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CowboyMcCoy;4517541 said:
Funny people would never know we're friends. On the other hand, I have been insulted on here numerous times. Of course not by Cajun.

Well, I just like to keep people guessing. :D

The thing is that people jump to conclusions because you make a statement that they disagree with yet, they can't separate people from their opposition because they aren't confident in themselves so therefor they must be an enemy or some such thing.

And I agree with Justbob. Lose the goat. Freaks me out.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4517556 said:
Really? Someone couldn't get more than one cut in a fight at separate times? :rolleyes:


Think about what you are saying? The blood was dried flowing in different directions, unless they fought stopped for awhile and resumed fighting again there is no possible way for the wounds bleed and dry that way during the fight. If they dried after the fight, I just find the blood flow pattern odd.
 

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justbob;4517579 said:
And to clarify one thing in my early pattern about the bloodstain patterns on Zimmerman's-head..The other poster can continue to be puzzled or confused or think they are odd. y comment are correct to pattern type ,and the distribution of the blood. Be confused or try to muddy the water if you need to --but that is a true professional explanation of the bloodstains based on that one photo.

Provide it then. I'm not unreasonable I found it odd. You saying you are right doesnt cut it.
 

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Tony33;4517632 said:
Think about what you are saying? The blood was dried flowing in different directions, unless they fought stopped for awhile and resumed fighting again there is no possible way for the wounds bleed and dry that way during the fight. If they dried after the fight, I just find the blood flow pattern odd.

It's very possible. Especially if one of the cuts happened right away.

Look. I don't know if you are insinuating the photo was a fake or if the police put the fake blood on his head or what you are trying to say. Maybe if you articulated what your hypothesis was on this rather than saying "It looks odd" then maybe we can figure out what you mean.

Do you think it's a fake photo or what?
 

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Tony33;4517638 said:
Provide it then. I'm not unreasonable I found it odd. You saying you are right doesnt cut it.


Not on here and you would not believe it anyway..If I'm not mistaken I gave Hostile info on my background one time. You would maybe believe him -so send him a personal message..

And I didn't say it to argue with you ---you can stay confused or odd---The analysis is correct based on the what I can see in one photo.
 

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Not sure why people think that the blood was dry. It clearly is reflecting the flash, which would indicate the blood is still wet. Dried blood would dull it's appearance and it's color would also change to a darker, brownish color. It's still pretty bright red here. Indicating it's still holding oxygen, as only wet blood will do.
 
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