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McCarthy doesn't have the roster bought by Jerry when that was still possible to do for Jimmy. Things are a lot more restricted now, than the fan's support ability.
It's the same for every team. Someone wins the title every year. Blaming the salary cap for two bozos winning 4 playoff games in 28 years is the ultimate cope.
 

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McCarthy doesn't have the roster bought by Jerry when that was still possible to do for Jimmy. Things are a lot more restricted now, than the fan's support ability.
You can't tell me based on what other teams have been able to do as far as roster-building goes that you sincerely believe Jerry couldn't be doing more, especially when it comes to adding high-quality players? It's definitely a different era, but we've seen a lot of teams reach the Super Bowl by using a combination of drafting, cheap outside FA, trades and expensive outside FAs. This front office made up its mind not to use expensive outside FAs to the detriment of this team. This front office restricts this team in ways that are not necessary.
 

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I liked it better when Jerry could buy the best players in the NFL. You could almost say he bought us some trophies.
Except that he really didn't. The core of that roster was drafted by Jimmy - neither of them have denied that Jimmy was the football guy in those early years. Jerry was busy trying to turn around a team losing a million dollars a month to save his investment, and to his credit he did that, but let's not pretend that he built/bought that team.

Jerry took over "football guy" stuff when Jimmy left. They squeezed a SB out of Jimmy's leftovers. We've seen Jerry "football guy", and his son's, results since then.
 

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Hire this coach! Sign this free agent! Draft this guy! It's not about a guy here or there with this team, it starts at the top. It's a dysfunctional organization.

Jerry and Stephen Jones are unique. No other NFL team has the owner as GM and his son as Director of Player Personnel. This has been the arrangement in Dallas for 28 years. They have won four wild card games. That's it. That's all they have to show for it. They've fired more head coaches than playoff wins in that time.

Take a good hard look. These are the masterminds you're counting on after 28 years of trying. If you weren't a Cowboys fan, you'd laugh at them. They're a joke.

They aren't going to suddenly figure it out, they aren't going to quit while the money still rolls in, so accept 12-5. It's as good as it is going to get. Enjoy.

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Yes we know there is nepotism running rampant through out the Cowboys organization. And it's never going to change and it's a major part of the problem. But you keep churning the QB position until you have a really good one. They haven't won anything since Aikman left. Right now there is no reason a top pedigree QB can't come in here and lead this team to an NFC championship. If Dak played in the playoffs like he does against the Commanders and Giants this team would of been to the SB by now. The best chance this team is ever going to have at going that far is getting a QB with pedigree.
Dak play has killed this team in the playoffs.
 

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It's the same for every team. Someone wins the title every year. Blaming the salary cap for two bozos winning 4 playoff games in 28 years is the ultimate cope.
You either don't understand English or just ignore all but excusing yourself at the expense of the truth.

Don/t ignore the fact presented. Jimmy got no other team to the standard the Cowboys were during the years that he was Dallas.


Now, as you ignore all else, the difference between when he was in Dallas and when he was in Miami, was the roster.

You have taken a monotone and done nothing else but blame all else on Jerry. The point is that Jerry moved mountains to get Jimmy all the talent needed to through getting enough talent to be able to travel the distance and strength to win a Super Bowl.

Murchison ran out of money trying to do the same with Landry and finally had to sell the team. That had nothing to do with you blaming all upon Jerry Jones. Doing the necessary money flow killed the Murchison ownership even with his Father being one of the very richest in the financial community in the US.

Landry, and Murchison were a great pairing as long as the money held out. This is the functional element not given credit in looking back. Landry was a strong coach. He demanded discipline and developed techniques to excell in the NFL. Money and his management carried his teams.

The difference between Jimmy and today's Mike McCarthy is that today's players are spoiled as to their values along with the limited cap flexability in today's NFL. No cap built up the rosters to the Johnson two Super Bowls.

Jimmy could replace large drafted numbers with paying enough for players.

After Parcells, Stephen realized in cap management, that the Cowboys could no longer pay free agents to build with, just as did Washington. Steve held the line and Jerry built up a top shelf Scouting Group to build continuity and strong ability to conduct an influx of NFL strengths and dependability to fill out rosters with good players.

The Cowboys are good at doing just that now. They have two players in contention for Offensive Players of the Year: Lamb and Prescott. They also have two players in contention for Defensive Players of the Year: Parsons and Bland.

The team also had 9 Pro Bowlers.

The team will have a pair of IR's that are good to strong players returning this next season. There also should be enough flex to correct the status of the offensive line, defensive line, and linebackers. The free agency could be addressed for a running back of value..

This leaves the picture today, of McCarthy leading his team and it could also be a stronger team yet. This is football.

The excuse of 30 years isn't a picture of the path traveled. It is an excuse to name, blame, and grab upon a whipping boy excuse to excuse a fan's own desire to make fun of another fan with heart enough to support his team the whole way.

Where's Cleveland. Where are the Steelers. Where is New England. Why has it taken Detroit to now to even make a NFC Championship Game. How come Buffalo doesn't taken a Super Bowl. What happened to Cincinnati. All the way around, drafts, injury, cap management and equality in talent levels all affect today's game and when a single game is played in the playoffs, a lot of things in a one match-up can affect a team and both momentums and team rhythms. That is what wins and loses in the playoffs.

Dirty thirty...give me real excuses and not blame.

Over the past 10 seasons, the team has 6 seasons with 10 or more wins in those seasons. That is NOT walking blindly.
 
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Except that he really didn't. The core of that roster was drafted by Jimmy - neither of them have denied that Jimmy was the football guy in those early years. Jerry was busy trying to turn around a team losing a million dollars a month to save his investment, and to his credit he did that, but let's not pretend that he built/bought that team.

Jerry took over "football guy" stuff when Jimmy left. They squeezed a SB out of Jimmy's leftovers. We've seen Jerry "football guy", and his son's, results since then.
the hype boys are still with TEAM JERRY

its so fun to watch. pathetic, but ok, wait til next year guys, its going to be our year!!!
That is called jury tampering.

You are blind as well as biased.
 

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You can't tell me based on what other teams have been able to do as far as roster-building goes that you sincerely believe Jerry couldn't be doing more, especially when it comes to adding high-quality players? It's definitely a different era, but we've seen a lot of teams reach the Super Bowl by using a combination of drafting, cheap outside FA, trades and expensive outside FAs. This front office made up its mind not to use expensive outside FAs to the detriment of this team. This front office restricts this team in ways that are not necessary.
Much more to it as seasons evolve and play out...I posted a more thorough explanation of real factors inherent as Dallas plays year to year.
 

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Except that he really didn't. The core of that roster was drafted by Jimmy - neither of them have denied that Jimmy was the football guy in those early years. Jerry was busy trying to turn around a team losing a million dollars a month to save his investment, and to his credit he did that, but let's not pretend that he built/bought that team.

Jerry took over "football guy" stuff when Jimmy left. They squeezed a SB out of Jimmy's leftovers. We've seen Jerry "football guy", and his son's, results since then.
Hater, who paid for those guys? I know it wasn't Jimmy. :)
 

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Wow, Stephen looks almost as old as his pops in that photo.. I'm starting to wonder who's next in the line of succession if something happens to Jerry and Stephen?? Is it Charlotte?? :facepalm:
 

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Right now there is no reason a top pedigree QB can't come in here and lead this team to an NFC championship.
Yes, there is a reason. Reviewing the franchise's quarterback acquisition history since 1989 helps.

Troy Aikman was a Jimmy Johnson pick. Since Johnson's departure, every other quarterback acquisition has either been proactively secured (e.g. Quincy Carter, Drew Bledsoe, or even more recently Trey Lance) or were not initially assessed and projected as starting caliber (e.g. Tony Romo & Dak Prescott).

Here are two questions in regards to the team landing a 'top pedigree' quarterback. How will that happen exactly when Jerry Jones, post-Johnson, has neither allocated a first round draft pick nor a top three, starting veteran, unrestricted free agent (or poached a top restricted starting quarterback from another team's roster)? Or is this a realistic expectation that will happen sometime after Jones' successor takes over from him?

I believe these are valid questions. Jones has been, and most likely will continue to be, the reason why a top pedigree quarterback has not and possibly shall not come here to do a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g.
 

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McCarthy doesn't have the roster bought by Jerry when that was still possible to do for Jimmy. Things are a lot more restricted now, than the fan's support ability.
Who did he buy?
 

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Except that he really didn't. The core of that roster was drafted by Jimmy - neither of them have denied that Jimmy was the football guy in those early years. Jerry was busy trying to turn around a team losing a million dollars a month to save his investment, and to his credit he did that, but let's not pretend that he built/bought that team.

Jerry took over "football guy" stuff when Jimmy left. They squeezed a SB out of Jimmy's leftovers. We've seen Jerry "football guy", and his son's, results since then.
Haley, Casillas, Newton, all traded for.

I actually can't think of even one player that Jerry bought for the 92-93 team.

After Jimmy left, Jerry bought Deion, and tore the team apart to do so. Jerry kept letting guys walk as he had no clue as to what really made that team great. Gesek, Casillas, Norton, Gogan, Cornish, Harper, Gant, Jeffcoat, Stepnoski, Washington. Jerry let them walk. That's why that team fell apart.
 

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No one on this board is letting a financial advisor have full control of their bank accounts...FULL CONTROL.

So shut up.

Jerry and son put talent on the field.

Point the finger at the Football Gods for not wanting Dallas to win. Not Jerry, Stephen, the Organization, coaches and players.
Yes, they are. The Wifey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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It's the same for every team. Someone wins the title every year. Blaming the salary cap for two bozos winning 4 playoff games in 28 years is the ultimate cope.
When Jerry is dead and gone, who will you blame when the Cowboys don't win the Super Bowl every year? Assuming Stephen hires a GM, him? Or will it just be a "puppet" (as declared by you) GM and still be on Stephen?
 

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Yes, there is a reason. Reviewing the franchise's quarterback acquisition history since 1989 helps.

Troy Aikman was a Jimmy Johnson pick. Since Johnson's departure, every other quarterback acquisition has either been proactively secured (e.g. Quincy Carter, Drew Bledsoe, or even more recently Trey Lance) or were not initially assessed and projected as starting caliber (e.g. Tony Romo & Dak Prescott).

Here are two questions in regards to the team landing a 'top pedigree' quarterback. How will that happen exactly when Jerry Jones, post-Johnson, has neither allocated a first round draft pick nor a top three, starting veteran, unrestricted free agent (or poached a top restricted starting quarterback from another team's roster)? Or is this a realistic expectation that will happen sometime after Jones' successor takes over from him?

I believe these are valid questions. Jones has been, and most likely will continue to be, the reason why a top pedigree quarterback has not and possibly shall not come here to do a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g.
I think he has the idea...he can look smarter than other GMs by getting a lower tier QB and winning with him. Then, he of course has to continue the doubling down until he either wins or some random event "forces" his hand.

The Romo/Prescott thing...I think the win streak forced his hand...thinking that was his little brand new pet that won those games. As if a really good vet couldn't? With THAT team?

I never saw a global multi billions dollar corp being run using Vega luck decision making. "Don't mess with a streak" Jerry said. Keep blowing on those dice Jerry.
 

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Yes, there is a reason. Reviewing the franchise's quarterback acquisition history since 1989 helps.

Troy Aikman was a Jimmy Johnson pick. Since Johnson's departure, every other quarterback acquisition has either been proactively secured (e.g. Quincy Carter, Drew Bledsoe, or even more recently Trey Lance) or were not initially assessed and projected as starting caliber (e.g. Tony Romo & Dak Prescott).

Here are two questions in regards to the team landing a 'top pedigree' quarterback. How will that happen exactly when Jerry Jones, post-Johnson, has neither allocated a first round draft pick nor a top three, starting veteran, unrestricted free agent (or poached a top restricted starting quarterback from another team's roster)? Or is this a realistic expectation that will happen sometime after Jones' successor takes over from him?

I believe these are valid questions. Jones has been, and most likely will continue to be, the reason why a top pedigree quarterback has not and possibly shall not come here to do a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g.
To add, this is where most top QB's come from: The top of the draft. Yes, I know you have your exceptions like Brady and maybe Purdy, but mostly they are 1st round picks.

So, how does a team get to the top of the draft? By tearing it down and losing. And that is one thing Jerry absolutely refuses to do. That is the biggest reason we don't get top QB's here.
 

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Hire this coach! Sign this free agent! Draft this guy! It's not about a guy here or there with this team, it starts at the top. It's a dysfunctional organization.

Jerry and Stephen Jones are unique. No other NFL team has the owner as GM and his son as Director of Player Personnel. This has been the arrangement in Dallas for 28 years. They have won four wild card games. That's it. That's all they have to show for it. They've fired more head coaches than playoff wins in that time.

Take a good hard look. These are the masterminds you're counting on after 28 years of trying. If you weren't a Cowboys fan, you'd laugh at them. They're a joke.

They aren't going to suddenly figure it out, they aren't going to quit while the money still rolls in, so accept 12-5. It's as good as it is going to get. Enjoy.

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One of the best posts this season. All true of course but there’s a sucker born every minute that will continue to buy tickets and merchandise, which btw doesn’t make these people any more of a fan than you and me who stopped buying anything w Cowboys on it years ago.

It’s business as usual here in Dallas, and almost thirty years without a deep playoff run has had zero effect on Jerry & Giggles on how they run this playoff irrelevant franchise.
 
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