Someone enlighten me to "the plan"?

[Diehardblues]

You should have asked your last question first and the others wouldn't have been necessary. And if they tried for Watkins, that answers your next to last question.

I wonder why they didn't at least trade him and get something?

Yep.. the timing is very puzzling.

 

[Stash]

Jerry right now.

 

[xwalker]

If this was the decision they were going to make, why wasn't it done months ago?

Why wasn't the player given the best chance for a new deal elsewhere?

Why didn't the team free up the cap space when they really needed it most?

Why didn't they do it when the other top receivers were available?

Does anyone in that building know what they're doing?

I think they gave the player and agent time to consider a pay cut.

The timing was expected because they would want to make the decision before next week's on field activities.

It didn't stop them from pursuing a top WR. They were in the mix for Watkins who was the highest paid free agent WR.

They still had contracts that could be restructured if they needed more cap space.

 

[Stash]

That’s why Dez has been quiet. He knew it was coming . Just didn’t know when.

I'm not sure. Someone as emotional as he is, I'd think he would have been talking if he knew they were letting him twist in the wind this long rather than finding a new home.

 

[Stash]

I think they gave the player and agent time to consider a pay cut.

The timing was expected because they would want to make the decision before next week's on field activities.

It didn't stop them from pursuing a top WR. They were in the mix for Watkins who was the highest paid free agent WR.

They still had contracts that could be restructured if they needed more cap space.

So you think that they really thought that Hurns and Thompson were their best options?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You should get out of this whole "emotional" thing Mr. Spock, honestly.

My being critical of what I perceive to be dumb moves is no more "emotional" than you making excuses or supporting them. I know it somehow makes you feel better about your own position, but it doesn't make any of your claims true.

I went for accuracy. When the shoe fits.

I can talk "opportunity cost" with you. Go ahead and tell me how this move at this time makes better sense than doing it at the starte of free agency. For anyone.

Fine. So why wasn't this move made months ago? After all, you're calling it the right decision. Why wasn't the right decision made when replacement options were available?

I use phrases I feel are applicable all the time.

And there are "none so blind" as fans, willing to tell themselves anything or convinced themselves of anything, in the name of that fandom.

I don't think in terms of fault and blame so the notion of excuse never really registers with my approach. I am not so self absorbed that I think that the club has to excuse itself for anything to me. As I have told you before, I think in terms of cause and effect not fault and excuse. While I certainly understand your viewpoint your insistence in shoehorning your approach onto me says you have no concept of where I come from.

And it's been discussed in this thread already how cutting Dez worsens their bargaining position. Then Dez went on vacation and Jerry wanted to deliver the news in person. I know you've read that yet you ignore it.

That whole none so blind line comes from Daniel or Isaiah in the Bible haranguing nonbelievers. That you thought that mysticism was appropriate fits perfectly though.

And I think this move was the right move because the production over 3 years did not match the salary. I do find it interesting how you can see aht with Crawford and call for his head repeatedly but cannot see it here. Blind indeed.

OTOH, I thought the Scandrick move did not make sense and didn't like it. I have listed my criticism of the Joneses and Garrett as well. This narrative you are trying to shoehorn onto me --again-- about mindless fanboiism is false.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I really don't understand how people question such a successful organization. Stumped.

It's one thing to have no faith that the plan will work and quite another to not see that there is a plan.

 

[Diehardblues]

Most arent questioining the decision . But why now?

I figured the delay was posturing to negotiate but If their intent was to release all along then why now.

That’s why it’s difficult for me not to believe this visit by Jerry was a final effort to convince Dez to reconstruct his contract.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

The only thing I'm curious about is had Hurns not become available would Dez' fate had still been sealed?

If Hurns weren't available you were looking at drafting Ridley and Sutton/Chark/Washington/Kirk. They would have doubled down on receivers in the first 2 round maybe even trading up in the 2nd.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think they gave the player and agent time to consider a pay cut.

The timing was expected because they would want to make the decision before next week's on field activities.

It didn't stop them from pursuing a top WR. They were in the mix for Watkins who was the highest paid free agent WR.

They still had contracts that could be restructured if they needed more cap space.

There is no reason to believe that the club offered a paycut to him or his agent at any time.

 

[RS12]

Someone enlighten me to "the plan"?

Sure, on draft day get as much war room camera time as possible. Then get the factory cranking out as many jerseys as they can, while there is money to be made. Sell hope. Same plan as every year. Feed ego, feed wallet.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ty craw is next. But why now? I still can't believe we couldn't get any pick for him. Front office is trash when it comes to the pro side. And big shocker that's where another Garrett is employed

Because cutting him early in FA would have given FA WR leverage and worsened their bargaining position then DEz went on vacation and Jerry wanted to tell Dez in person.

The writing has been on the wall over DEz for a month. There is no indication that Crawford is next.

 

[Vanilla2]

Just gotta keep stacking good days

 

[charron]

If this was the decision they were going to make, why wasn't it done months ago?

Why wasn't the player given the best chance for a new deal elsewhere?

Why didn't the team free up the cap space when they really needed it most?

Why didn't they do it when the other top receivers were available?

Does anyone in that building know what they're doing?

Stephen is setting things up for an overhaul next year. At the end of 2018 beginning of 2019 they can make coaching and player changes with enough cap space to waste. This will get the hype train started so fans can buy back into the rebuild mode all over again. Out with the old in with the new money.

 

[Jumbo075]

RE: stasheroo

If this was the decision they were going to make, why wasn't it done months ago?

Because Dez was out of the country in Australia, and the Cowboys wanted to cut him in person. Also, because they wanted to investigate all the college Wide Receivers BEFORE making the final decision to give Bryant his walking papers.​

Why wasn't the player given the best chance for a new deal elsewhere?

Dez still has the opportunity to land somewhere else for big money. Several teams with CAP space still need a #1 WR.​

Why didn't the team free up the cap space when they really needed it most?

Two things. 1) the Cowboys always had as much CAP space as they needed to make the moves they wanted to make. The Cowboys purposely ride close up to the CAP, and then restructure when needed to sign new players. It is their standard operating procedure. 2) after the Cowboys missed on Sammy Watkins, the only other option they were interested in is the draft. They didn't need the CAP room to sign a WR.​

Why didn't they do it when the other top receivers were available?

They were interested only in Sammy Watkins, and otherwise are looking to the draft, just like they looked to the draft a year ago to replace the defensive secondary.​

Does anyone in that building know what they're doing?

Yes. They have a coherent plan, whether or not you and I agree with it.​

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I don't like the move. But the Cowboys are nothing if not methodical in their approach under Garrett. Having said that, it gets harder and harder each year for the Cowboys to maintain my interest. Like it or not, I am a fan because of the spectacular plays and the beauty of the game. The NFL is legislating the beauty out of the defense, and out of special teams. Now the Cowboys have gotten rid of two of their bigger offensive stars in the last two offseasons.

I like Dak, but I am not a Dak believer yet. I have hope for him, but that's it. The fact that he couldn't make it work with Dez counts against him for me. I'm open minded about the Cowboys, but not as interested tomorrow as I was two years ago, before all the turmoil we aren't allowed to talk about, and when the Cowboys still had Romo, Dez and Murray. The whole Zeke drama last year was exhausting, and I think Zeke got a raw deal. Today counts as one more reason to lose interest.

As much as I've defended Garrett and Jones over the years, I am not a fan of the coaches and owners. I am a fan of the players who make spectacular plays. But with the invasion of politics into the game, and the watering down of the game by rules changes, it gets harder each year - especially when the players you love to watch are booted from the team.

So yes, the Cowboys have a plan and know what they want to do. I'm finding it harder and harder to care.

 

[btcutter]

This. This. This.

Why release Bryant right after the season and then be held hostage by free agent WR's?

That wouldn't have been the smart play.

Ok I'll bite. So why not release him AFTER The draft. After you made sure you can pick up a decent WR and not let other teams know you ARE going to be drafting a WR so they now will leap frog Dallas to pick the WR they want. What's another 2 wks?

 

[CouchCoach]

Yep.. the timing is very puzzling.

Not when you consider the real and final decision maker and how he operates.

To the players in the NFL, this is going to come off as a bush league move and not the way to treat a player. If Booger was looking to motivate Dez, he just found a way. I thought he would end up a Skin or Giant, if they traded Beckham, and he'll circle those two games but that can blowback, remember Owens first game against the Eagles? This looks like a revenge move for how Dez made Booger blink on that last contract. Going to be very interesting to see where he lands and for how much. He might be mad enough to take a lesser guarantee to stay in the East. I'd be willing to bet it is a team we play this season.

My only concern is how this affects the draft and we needed D help badly with a DT and a couple of LB's. And Greg, the worst part is that moron might just go O with WR, TE and OL in the first 3 picks.

 

[xwalker]

So you think that they really thought that Hurns and Thompson were their best options?

I think they are more comfortable with Hurns/Thompson than Dez/Butler.

Look at the Patriots WRs. They place more emphasis on football-intelligence than pure athletic ability. I think that is true for some other teams also.

Some of the all time greats used mastery of the game over pure athletic ability (Rice, Irvin, Fitzgerald).

Obviously they were likely to draft a WR early with or without Dez staying.

Their main fail was not drafting a legit WR a year or two ago OR signing a better player than TWill last year.

 

[renny]

If this was the decision they were going to make, why wasn't it done months ago?

Why wasn't the player given the best chance for a new deal elsewhere?

Why didn't the team free up the cap space when they really needed it most?

Why didn't they do it when the other top receivers were available?

Does anyone in that building know what they're doing?

When the team fails to make the playoffs, let's see who the scapegoat will be then (April 13, 2018).

 

[okstateCowboy]

Ok I'll bite. So why not release him AFTER The draft. After you made sure you can pick up a decent WR and not let other teams know you ARE going to be drafting a WR so they now will leap frog Dallas to pick the WR they want. What's another 2 wks?

Because players report to the offseason program on Monday next week