Something eerily similar between Lance and Dak

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I agree. . . best case scenario is that Dak puts it all together this year and rides this defense t I a Championship and gives the Cowboys a discount . . . I would be OK with this

But based on the current downside Dak is on this scenario is highly unlikely and as far as giving Dallas a Discount . . . He has shown no signs of this in any of His Negotiations

Lance gives this team an out

I would rather watch Lance develop over the next 5 years than contine to watch the Dak **** Show
I respect that. I still don't trust Lance after what he's shown on tape with the 49ers, but he does have 2 seasons to learn and grow.
 

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For the team's welfare, I hope it's not because of Dak. All the cameras are on Dak this season. It will be very telling to see if he performs better.
I hope he performs well . . we shall see gow he responds . . . This whole season rests on His Shoulders . . . This year there are no more escape goats
 

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It's factual that the Cowboys have a long term plan of what to do with Trey Lance. They are following their long-term plan to develop his skills over time and eventually decide whether to keep him on their roster and if so, whether to use him either as a backup or develop him as a starter, assuming his performance measures up to their hopes for his progress. The worst-case scenario is that he'd eventually be cut. Otherwise, he'll be retained on the roster and developed into a backup QB if he's deemed fully qualified for that role. Patience will be dutifully required.

The best-case scenario would be that he's eventually considered worthy of being used as a starting QB or a backup in future years. In the meantime, he must pass many qualifications to finally determine his fate, whatever that might be. It will, of course, require much patience and a willingness to work diligently to develop his skills properly. All of this is likely to require at least 2 years of hard work to satisfy such requirements.
 
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I respect that. I still don't trust Lance after what he's shown on tape with the 49ers, but he does have 2 seasons to learn and grow.
I feel the same . . . All I have for Lance are High Hopes but I do not expect anything

Right now I am over confident in this defense and I feel they are the identity of the team

We dont need a QB coming in and turning over the Ball. . . My hope is Dak thrives in the Texas Coast and if not Cooper holds things down. . If by chance Lance gets in the game I pray he limits His Mistakes and allows the Defense to win the games

It is gonna be an exciting year . . . Go Cowboys
 

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It's factual that the Cowboys have a long term plan of what to do with Trey Lance. They are following their long-term plan to develop his skills over time and eventually decide whether to keep him on their roster and if so, whether to use him either as a backup or develop him as a starter, assuming his performance measures up to their hopes for his progress. The worst scenario is that he'd eventually be cut. Otherwise, he'll be retained on the roster and developed into a backup QB if he's deemed best qualified for that role. The best case scenario would be that he's eventually considered worthy of being used as a starting QB in future years. In the meantime, he must pass many qualifications to finally determine his fate, whatever that may be. It will of course require patience and a willingness to work diligently to develop his skills properly.
I agree a 100%
 

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Lance didn't play his rookie season because Jimmy G was the starter but continue with the story
Clearly the niners were looking for any excuse to ditch Jimmy and traded all the way to 3 to take a qb. You generally don’t take a qb at 3 and then not play him right away. Lance couldn’t give them any hope to do that.
 

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Lance lost is job because he broke his ankle and Jimmy G took over. Purdy came in after Jimmy G hurt his foot. Purdy actually became the starter like Dak did for the Cowboys. Let’s not make up lies or false narratives about Lance. He lost his job mainly because of injury and Purdy got on a hot streak and took the 49ers to the NFC championship.
Nope, he was terrible. The niners miss the playoffs if they kept forcing it with Lance starting and he hadn’t gotten hurt. Let’s not make up excuses for Lance, he had the opportunities and couldn’t crack the top 3 in SF when they hoped against hope that he would blossom and yet he didn’t. He’s a huge bust for now. Going to be a miraculous piece of work to turn him into something salvageable.
 

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This is not accurate. Yes, obviously he could not play due to the season ending injury, but let’s stop pretending that Shanahan, a pretty well respected judge of QBs, didn’t see him everyday. I’m pretty sure he saw some things that he didn’t see as fixable. Otherwise he would still be there given the investment they made to get him in the first place.
Lance had to go because of the Cult Following He has in San Fran was threatening to tear the fan base in half exactly like it has done here

I give the 49ers credit for biting the bullet and moving on

Lance is gone and Purdy and Donald are in

49ers are in win now mode. Of the 3 QB's Lance has the least amount of experience which is a major factor for a team that has Super Bowl Aspirations

The Civil War between the 49ers Fan that want to Win and the Trey Cult Members who want Trey. . . . and the Win Now Mode that they are in

Trey had to go. Not because He is a Bust, On the contrary. He is still on the Come Up and based on His work ethic He may achieve His potential . . . We lucked into a Lottery Ticket
 

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Nope, he was terrible. The niners miss the playoffs if they kept forcing it with Lance starting and he hadn’t gotten hurt. Let’s not make up excuses for Lance, he had the opportunities and couldn’t crack the top 3 in SF when they hoped against hope that he would blossom and yet he didn’t. He’s a huge bust for now. Going to be a miraculous piece of work to turn him into something salvageable.
What evidence do you have that he was terrible. His statistics in the 4 real games he started were solid. The one bad game he played was in a monsoon. I guess you were at 49ers practices and OTAS in May and went to the Summer camp practices. :rolleyes: Purdy won the job because he was 7-0 and led the 49ers to the NFC championship game. You know that Lance was out with injury all last season but two games right?
 

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The only similarity I’ve seen between Lance and Dak is that both struggle throwing a spiral. A lot of wobbly passes.
 

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We should all be happy and hope that he replaces Dak because he is that much better. Maybe in a year or two it will happen.

However, pretending he's anything more than a prospect now is off. He's shown nothing in the league, for a variety of reasons. Here's to hoping that changes.
The action of the guys who are not happy with this no-risk trade shows me they are not Cowboys fans, they are player/s fans.

I guess they are the "haters"
 

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Oh, the MYTH of not being able to read defenses...created by haters....and the gullible fans that believe them and run with it.
Knock it off you are better then that.

This is an opinion formed by watching countless hours of Dak . . . we will see how things pan out this year

If Dak does have the ability to read defenses it will show in this new defense

Good luck Dak . . . Sink or Swim
 

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That’s the only possible reason in your mind?

It couldn’t be that he just liked Purdy more? And given Purdy’s contract he was the choice?

It couldn’t be that Lance represented a distraction to their QB room given the huge investment they made in him?

It couldn’t be because the Niners have a championship roster and growing pains from a developmental QB isn’t an option?

I think this thread is dumb and don’t believe Lance is a threat to Dak for at least the next year and a 1/2(possibly never)…but it’s also dumb to just write Lance off because the team that drafted him ended up trading him. And yes, a developmental QB that lost a year + of developmental time due to a severe injury is indeed a HUGE factor. You are also ignoring the fact that a (at least) serviceable starting QB fell to them in the 7th round. There’s a lot of QB’s around the league that would lose their jobs if a rookie on the cheapest possible contract was brought in and proved capable of doing the job. That’s just the nature of the business.
Lance being a threat in a year or possibly a year and a half is a major threat to Dak's future in Dallas

If He falters this year (not saying he will) but if he does . . . He is out the door
 

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Teams simply don’t part with a player that cost so much to acquire for peanuts without reason. Yes they liked Purdy and Darnold better. And that says an awful lot.

Look…I get the desire to hope you guys got this future stud for a 4th rounder. But those odds are quite long. It’s just common sense
Him being on the team was tearing 49er nation apart . . . He has a Cult Following exactly like Dak
 

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Dak can read defenses bro. Daks strength is his mental ability. His problem is his raw physical talent. He isn't a natural arm talent like some of his peers but he worked his *** off to fix his footwork and mechanics. Which is why a weakness in college he got better at when it comes to accuracy.
it's obvious by the numerous underthrown balls!
 

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I never said the odds are good, or that Lance will be a stud. Just stating that your reasoning is short sighted. You are acting as if getting a starting QB with the dead last pick in the draft is a normal circumstance when in reality it’s wildly unprecedented. Also, you seem to be insinuating that losing the job to Purdy is some kind bad thing/insult? We shall see about that…
Exactly
 

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Would’ve Dak benefited from sitting and learning behind Romo 2years?......Trey gets that chance, hopefully he takes advantage.

MM worked Rogers in slowly behind Favre, what was Rogers biggest learning obstacle? Maybe the same?

Cousins, Dak, etc.....nfl mid level Qb’s. Like mid level PGA players....can get hot, but under pressure consistency falls.
This is how I feel . . . I believe Dak would have been better off if he sat . . .
 

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He was QB1 last year for SF and then got hurt in game 2. Please research before posting.
I was mimicking someone that I was replying to who was using it as a way to justify his argument

Lame
 
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