Sony and Marvel Team up for Spiderman

[Nova]

I hope they just add on. I actually quite liked the last two Spiderman movies. I enjoy the guy playing the role of Spiderman. I think he's done a great job.

I'd rather they just add on from here.

The problem is... How do you do that? He is in New York where the avengers finale took place, and there is no mention from either side substantiating the existence of either side.

I'm actually with you with Garfield, I just don't think it works without somewhat sabotaging the integrity of what marvel has done so far, which has seemed well planned out up to this point.

I honestly can't think of a scenario in which they can make this work seamlessly. But Feige has done a great job overseeing this so far, so I have hope.

 

[joseephuss]

My list of "it's as if they never existed" movies.

Superman 3, 4, Returns
Supergirl
Spiderman 3, TASM, 2
Green Lantern
Batman Keaton's and 3, 4, 5
Catwoman
Daredevil
Elecktra
... Many more... Lol didn't realize there were so many actually...

What was #5?

 

[joseephuss]

Too bad Marvel could not say, hey we Resigned Tobey, we are starting from Spiderman 2, the other 3 do not exist.

Tobey is 39 years old. I don't think they need to go back to high school age, but a 20 something is probably a good choice.

 

[Kevinicus]

Too bad Marvel could not say, hey we Resigned Tobey, we are starting from Spiderman 2, the other 3 do not exist.

I'd much rather have Garfield than Maguire. He was a much better Parker/Spidey.

 

[cml750]

I'd much rather have Garfield than Maguire. He was a much better Parker/Spidey.

IMHO, Tobey was much better than Garfield. The only thing better about the reboot was that they used web shooters instead off Spidey naturally creating webbing which is the only thing I did not like about the original first two Spiderman. I hope they re-reboot rather than use Garfield again.

 

[joseephuss]

It would not shock me if they went with the Miles Morales version of Spiderman.

 

[Nova]

IMHO, Tobey was much better than Garfield. The only thing better about the reboot was that they used web shooters instead off Spidey naturally creating webbing which is the only thing I did not like about the original first two Spiderman. I hope they re-reboot rather than use Garfield again.

Depends on which Spider-Man you grew up with. Spider-Man has abeen a fun loving smart mouth character... Not to the extent of deadpool, but still a jokester of sorts. Unless you grew up in the 90s like me. That cartoon portrayed a different guy.

 

[joseephuss]

Depends on which Spider-Man you grew up with. Spider-Man has abeen a fun loving smart mouth character... Not to the extent of deadpool, but still a jokester of sorts. Unless you grew up in the 90s like me. That cartoon portrayed a different guy.

http://io9.com/first-look-at-ryan-reynolds-deadpool-costume-1685563743

 

[CashMan]

Tobey is 39 years old. I don't think they need to go back to high school age, but a 20 something is probably a good choice.

He has aged well, you wouldn't think he was almost 40.

 

[Szczepanik]

Thought about that too... But... Nahhhhh....





This is a good approach IMO.

How is it a good approach? We have seen this story way too many times.

I for one, would love a matured Spider Man if he is going to be fit in with the avengers..

 

[cml750]

Depends on which Spider-Man you grew up with. Spider-Man has abeen a fun loving smart mouth character... Not to the extent of deadpool, but still a jokester of sorts. Unless you grew up in the 90s like me. That cartoon portrayed a different guy.

I can respect that. I haven't touched a comic book since the early 80's. That is probably the reason I hated Man of Steel so much too.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

What was #5?

Lol thought there was another crap one in there. Apologies.

 

[joseephuss]

Lol thought there was another crap one in there. Apologies.

No need for apologies. I had to think about it for a long time and count out the movies and actors. They all ran together.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

The problem is... How do you do that? He is in New York where the avengers finale took place, and there is no mention from either side substantiating the existence of either side.

I'm actually with you with Garfield, I just don't think it works without somewhat sabotaging the integrity of what marvel has done so far, which has seemed well planned out up to this point.

I honestly can't think of a scenario in which they can make this work seamlessly. But Feige has done a great job overseeing this so far, so I have hope.

I just figured that they'd make some mention, and maybe a flash back sequence, where Spiderman was fighting things elsewhere in New York and it just wasn't shown in the previous movie.

 

[DallasEast]

I can respect that. I haven't touched a comic book since the early 80's. That is probably the reason I hated Man of Steel so much too.

Let me just say that all mainstream comic book characters have evolved through time. I started buying comics full-time in the early 70's but stopped in the early 90's. I pick up an issue or two of various characters from time-to-time to keep a feel or connection for who they have become.

There have been tons of reincarnations. I personally thought Guardians Of The Galaxy would not do well with the current characters. I thought the team, which starred in the books I bought years ago, would fare better. I was wrong. Then again, I did not buy any of the current title's issues until after I saw the movie. The current team is more contemporary and a better fit. I just needed to caught up to see why it worked so well.

 

[DallasEast]

One pet peeve I have about the myriad of movie studios segmenting the Marvel characters is the lost of origin recognition. I don't mind reboots so much. It's more the sense of "who came first" is nonexistent in these movies. Here's the list of characters' debuts in Marvel Comics:

Fantastic Four, Nov 1961
Hulk, May 1962
Spider-Man, August 1962
Thor, August 1962
Iron Man, March 1963
The Avengers, September 1963
X-Men, September 1963
Captain America, March 1964
Black Widow, April 1964
Hawkeye, September 1964

Technically, Cap's comic book origin preceeds everyone else's since he was not originally created by Marvel. Even so, I dislike how well The Avengers have done on-screen as the world's "first" superhero team--while the World's Greatest Fighting Team, a.k.a. the FF, get zero mention. That's just me griping though. It's not like the first two movies have done anything worthy of earning any connection with the more recent Marvel movies. Maybe that will change with the latest FF reboot. Of course, the studios could not care less about mentioning characters outside those involved in each particular movie anyway.

 

[cml750]

Let me just say that all mainstream comic book characters have evolved through time. I started buying comics full-time in the early 70's but stopped in the early 90's. I pick up an issue or two of various characters from time-to-time to keep a feel or connection for who they have become.

There have been tons of reincarnations. I personally thought Guardians Of The Galaxy would not do well with the current characters. I thought the team, which starred in the books I bought years ago, would fare better. I was wrong. Then again, I did not buy any of the current title's issues until after I saw the movie. The current team is more contemporary and a better fit. I just needed to caught up to see why it worked so well.

A good director/writer should be able to bridge the gap for both the old / new comic fans. While I do not know how the Avengers have "evolved" throughout the years, Joss Whedon created a movie most everyone loved. Guardians of the Galaxy was really good because it had excellent writers and was directed well. The latest Batman trilogy was really good because the writers and the director did a great job. Other movies such Man of Steel managed to excite some and turn off others probably split along old / new Superman fans do to poor writing / directing. A good writer and director should be able to pull off a home run every time given there are so many old and new comics fans.

 

[cml750]

One pet peeve I have about the myriad of movie studios segmenting the Marvel characters is the lost of origin recognition. I don't mind reboots so much. It's more the sense of "who came first" is nonexistent in these movies. Here's the list of characters' debuts in Marvel Comics:

Fantastic Four, Nov 1961
Hulk, May 1962
Spider-Man, August 1962
Thor, August 1962
Iron Man, March 1963
The Avengers, September 1963
X-Men, September 1963
Captain America, March 1964
Black Widow, April 1964
Hawkeye, September 1964

Technically, Cap's comic book origin preceeds everyone else's since he was not originally created by Marvel. Even so, I dislike how well The Avengers have done on-screen as the world's "first" superhero team--while the World's Greatest Fighting Team, a.k.a. the FF, get zero mention. That's just me griping though. It's not like the first two movies have done anything worthy of earning any connection with the more recent Marvel movies. Maybe that will change with the latest FF reboot. Of course, the studios could not care less about mentioning characters outside those involved in each particular movie anyway.

I actually liked the first two Fantastic Four movies.

 

[DallasEast]

A good director/writer should be able to bridge the gap for both the old / new comic fans. While I do not know how the Avengers have "evolved" throughout the years, Joss Whedon created a movie most everyone loved. Guardians of the Galaxy was really good because it had excellent writers and was directed well. The latest Batman trilogy was really good because the writers and the director did a great job. Other movies such Man of Steel managed to excite some and turn off others probably split along old / new Superman fans do to poor writing / directing. A good writer and director should be able to pull off a home run every time given there are so many old and new comics fans.

As Hulk would say, "Man Of Steel bad." lmao!

Directing and writing are necessary elements of a good film but keeping the essential fundamentals of what makes comics great is just as important. Superhero comics have survived for as long as they have because they present American mythos in contemporary form. Marvel excels in this area. They create stories that excite readers without dumbing down content. Marvel Studios has done a great job of carrying over the basic feel and texture of their stories, made for today's audiences, onto the big screen.

 

[DallasEast]

I actually liked the first two Fantastic Four movies.

The FF movies were good. They hit a home run by portraying the team as a dysfunctional family who love and care about each other strongly just like in the comics title. They waned whenever they ventured into cartoony land. Where The Avengers succeeded with a very realistic CGI Hulk, the FF movies squeezed Michael Chiklis into a rock shaped rubber suit. Weird. Ironically, the sequel got the Silver Surfer perfect. Unfortunately they did not do the same with The Devourer of Worlds. (OMG! Here comes the big space cloud! Everyone run! Write the Ultimate Nullifer completely out of the story. Sorry Reed. lol!)

I'm holding my breath waiting on the reboot. The sequel looks like this endeavor will be a severely serious attempt to engage today's audiences. I hope so. One of the things I demand of the reboot is to do Dr. Reed Richards properly. Marvel put super geniuses like Tony Stark and Dr. Banner on screen and showcased their unmatched intelligences--especially for Stark. Marvel has always presented Dr. Richards with an intelligence that eclipses even those two. The first two movies did not come close to showing Richards' brilliance. I have my fingers crossed.