Sorry, but I think this video board is ridiculous

[DallasEast]

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[fannypack]

What the heck, lol.

 

[Hoofbite]

Well, I would assume you know what that means, but you were obviously clueless in this situation so what that would mean is all those cameras on a wire, signs, hanging things would have to be at the new height as well.

That might not be tough for a few stadiums, but there is quite a few that would be hell.

Which stadiums? I'm dying to know what other stadiums have things hanging from the ceiling like Dallas. Nearly 3/4 of the league plays outdoors and then there are a handful of stadiums that have retractable roofs. Only a couple stadiums are actually domed in such a manner that anything could hang over the field like it does in Dallas.

This argument is nothing more than a BS excuse.

I say leave the scoreboard as is, let it be a crutch for all other punters. Our punter would have the advantage seeing he is used to it and he can get the distance without kicking it straight up in the air.

Cause thats fair.

 

[DallasEast]

Cause thats fair.

...so every stadium has to conform to 'fairness' for the visiting team?

 

[DallasEast]

What the heck, lol.

.....

 

[Hoofbite]

24. Not 27.

I know. Nitpicking.

You sure?

Can't really see it on this video but it looked like it landed at the 37.

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[Hoofbite]

...so every stadium has to conform to 'fairness' for the visiting team?

As far as play on the field is concerned it should. The rest of the league shouldn't have to adjust to Dallas. Dallas should adjust to the rest of the league.

There is no arguing that.

 

[bbgun]

Which stadiums? I'm dying to know what other stadiums have things hanging from the ceiling like Dallas. Nearly 3/4 of the league plays outdoors and then there are a handful of stadiums that have retractable roofs. Only a couple stadiums are actually domed in such a manner that anything could hang over the field like it does in Dallas.

This argument is nothing more than a BS excuse.

The "He was deliberately trying to hit it!" crowd will have some explaining to do when McBriar nails the damn thing.

 

[theogt]

As far as play on the field is concerned it should. The rest of the league shouldn't have to adjust to Dallas. Dallas should adjust to the rest of the league.

There is no arguing that.

What's fair is setting a league-wide rule and the Cowboys adhering to the rule.

 

[theogt]

The "He was deliberately trying to hit it!" crowd will have some explaining to do when McBriar nails the damn thing.

He may very well hit it. But from my angle in the stands, his punts weren't really close. And according to McBriar himself he wouldn't hit it unless it were just a really bad punt.

 

[DallasEast]

You sure?

Can't really see it on this video but it looked like it landed at the 37.

[youtube]fjx6vsR71sg[/youtube]

Am I sure?

~ Field level to board height drawn to proportion | Board length drawn to proportion | Field level pics flipped horizonally in relation to graph and video board pics ~

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A: Trapasso kicks from the 25 yard line

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B: Ball connects with Mitsubishi Electric sign at the 49-yard line

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Outside view

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Inside View


C: Line of scrimmage prior to punt was the 36-yard line

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• 24 yards - distance the ball traveled from Trapasso to the video board
• 13 yards - distance the ball traveled beyond the line of scrimmage to the video board

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Yeah.

 

[Hoofbite]

What's fair is setting a league-wide rule and the Cowboys adhering to the rule.

And what also is fair is for Dallas to use some common sense to move the thing after the both the league and Dallas were proven to be wrong.

 

[Hoofbite]

Am I sure?
Yeah.

When I say 27, I'm talking where the punt actually landed after hitting the board.

 

[theogt]

And what also is fair is for Dallas to use some common sense to move the thing after the both the league and Dallas were proven to be wrong.

I think it's likely that Dallas and the league both knew that it was possible to hit the thing. Whether or not the league changed its mind about that possibility warranting a higher requirement is a completely different story.

FYI, I'm in the camp of just moving the thing higher, cause I'm very impatient and can't stand the idea of re-doing plays.

 

[DallasEast]

As far as play on the field is concerned it should. The rest of the league shouldn't have to adjust to Dallas. Dallas should adjust to the rest of the league.

There is no arguing that.

Then that logic should apply to the entire league, not just for Dallas. There are a number of issues involving other stadiums which impact games and the players moreso than the videoboard.

 

[Hoofbite]

He may very well hit it. But from my angle in the stands, his punts weren't really close. And according to McBriar himself he wouldn't hit it unless it were just a really bad punt.

In which case he shouldn't get a redo.

 

[DallasEast]

When I say 27, I'm talking where the punt actually landed after hitting the board.

Why are you concerned where the ball landed? Once the ball hit the videoboard, it was declared dead by league rule.

 

[Hoofbite]

Then that logic should apply to the entire league, not just for Dallas. There are a number of issues involving other stadiums which impact games and the players moreso than the videoboard.

Like what? And I'm not asking this in a sarcastic or cynical manner. I really want to know what other stadiums have similar problems.

 

[Hoofbite]

Why are you concerned where the ball landed? Once the ball hit the videoboard, it was declared dead by league rule.

Because people have been persistent in saying it only would have been a 25 yard or 30 yard punt.

I was just pointing out that the ball traveled 27 yards even with it hitting the board.

 

[bbgun]

He may very well hit it. But from my angle in the stands, his punts weren't really close. And according to McBriar himself he wouldn't hit it unless it were just a really bad punt.

That's the angle I was waiting for from the network, but Fox never showed it. Instead, we got a closeup of the punter and then a closeup of the returner. And it goes without saying that the screen should be "bad punt" proof.