Sources: Dallas may release Owens (ESPN) *Merge*

[Bach]

TO, don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

Don't let it hit ya in the rear end either.

 

[jobberone]

Tell that to Richard Nixon...oh yeah he died before the source came out....I dont think Berstein or Woodward cared if people didn't know their true source. The Dallas Cowboys have a "Deep Throat". Troubling as it is, he probably exists and where there's smoke there is usually fire. We'll see. LOL

Oh, there's likely more than one talking. But it's still hearsay and that's as reliable as a Renault. It would be naive to think or suggest there is never any controversy or even drauma in a lockeroom. I just don't believe it's as controversial as ESPN and esp Werder makes it. They make the news. They don't just report it.

 

[TheCount]

Yea, there are a lot of "possibly, may, could, think" in that article. It's like Werder hasn't had a story in "The Lead" portion of the bottom line on ESPN for a week or so, so it is time to hit up those "sources" and "quote" them.

The way the quotes sound makes me thing this is stuff from a while ago, from the same discussions where he got the "T.O. is a cancer" story and he's just using quotes he didn't for that article and pretending it's a new story.

For a guy that has been under so much fire for that stuff, I can't believe he's dumb enough to be the guy that does this. I mean what kind of stupidity is that?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

A part of me wonders if the yapping isn't intentionally done just to float it out there and gauge what the public consensus will be on the public stage and to test the waters to factor into an impeding decision. I really do believe Jerry stubbornly (and unbelievably) thought TO was a liked and marketable player among the Cowboy Nation, and it might have been an eye opening moment when he was overwhelmingly booed out of the stadium before the Giants game .

The bottomline is that Jerry is suffering a bit of a PR crisis. I've never seen such a negative and toxic attitude towards the Cowboys in the Dallas area by the fans than it is today. It's not just disappointment, it's outright hostility. Couple that with the worst economic times since the Great Depression, and I don't believe for a second that filling that new stadium up is going as planned. Jerry is going to have a hard time selling the same unlikable bill of goods for another offseason at triple the prices. Releasing TO would be overwhelmingly positive PR step in the right direction and a way to get the average fan back on board. Jerry, feeding off the universal and overwhelming acclaim from cutting PacMan, might just be opening his eyes to this.

I was thinking the same thing about floating the idea out there. And if that is the case I wonder if it is being floated out there by someone other than jerry in order to get Jerry's attention of how they are unhappy about it. I actually find that more feasible than Jerry floating it out there himself and trying to see what the public thinks.

Either way it is all speculation at this point but I do think it could be a float out there type of move in order to get someone's attention...just think it is to get Jerry's attention.

No matter who might be floating it out there, it is a very dangerous game to be playing if you don't indeed wind up cutting TO. Because TO is the type that does not forget things and you know he has a paranoid type of mentality. He could make things much worse for the team if he thinks some coaches or FO people are talking about getting rid of him.

 

[Bach]

The bottomline is that Jerry is suffering a bit of a PR crisis. I've never seen such a negative and toxic attitude towards the Cowboys in the Dallas area by the fans than it is today. It's not just disappointment, it's outright hostility.

I agree, which is why I think the fans can make a difference.

I know some would like for everyone to stick their heads in the sand and pretend all is well, like they've been doing the last dozen years. But I don't see the point in that. And even if the fans reactions don't change anything, I still see no reason why we shouldn't discuss the reality of the situation.

 

[jobberone]

Absurd. Reporters sometimes go to jail before they disclose their sources.

Say it was Stephen Jones or Tony Romo (or pick whichever player you please). Do you honestly think at some point Werder would disclose who said all that? All that would accomplish is to make sure the person never gave him any info in the future.

You want it not to be true, so you attack the source. As Theebs has pointed out before, Werder has an excellent relationship with some players and coaches in Dallas. To think that he's fabricating this is sort of ridiculous, especially when you consider the guy who's most often exhibited outrageous behavior is the guy who's the subject of the story to begin with, not the guy reporting it. Especially considering the "BS" people claimed from his December report has been largely collaberated.

Of course there are times for anonymity. But ESPN and Werder don't report the news. They make it. This is not some issue involving national security or such. No one is going to jail, threatened with injury, death, or the loss of home, loved ones, job, or country and comrades.

This is gossip. IT'S GOSSIP. Don't confuse rumor and gossip with actual news which is verifiable fact. If people took all this with a grain of salt then ok. But this crap does create a diversion and we don't need it. Werder is like a noisey neighbor. I'd have much less problem with it if it was reported as 'there may be more than the usual amount of controversy in the Dallas Cowboys lockeroom. This will bear watching'. Ok. That's fair. No need for a freakin circus that fosters polarization within the organization.

There's a reason why gossip is frowned on. It can be damaging.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Okay. I've had it. Chuck him to the side and move on.

He messed with Witten for BS childish reasons and in BS childish ways and that ain't right and that's enough for me.

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

blah, blah...I'll give a damn when I read/hear something tangible! IMO, it seems like the Network is trying to boost ratings/web hits with this type of "reporting". I'm in the middle of the road on this issue, though. TO, when utilized CORRECTLY, can still be a top 10 NFL WR and very effective. OTOH, if he is having a negative effect on the team's chemistry & refuses to buy into Garrett's gameplanning/philosophy (if he sticks around) then he needs to be shown the door. One thing I agree w/ from this article is that we were just like past versions of L'il Danny's Deadskins-champs on paper but chumps on the field!!!

 

[JordanTaber]

Okay. I've had it. Chuck him to the side and move on.

He messed with Witten for BS childish reasons and in BS childish ways and that ain't right and that's enough for me.

When did he mess with Witten?

 

[fanfromvirginia]

When did he mess with Witten?

When he whined about Witten being Romo's favorite.

 

[jobberone]

It's interesting that if Werder has the reputation some people ascribe to him here, why he keeps getting Cowboys insiders to talk to him anonymously?

The fact is some of the players or/and some on the coaching staff want to send a message that they do not like T.O. and his antics. Now, maybe this is a way to get the word out ... "T.O. we are watching you, and we want you to know we don't like your influence" even if T.O. stays - which I believe he will. Or maybe it's a message to Jerry Jones.

But I don't doubt for one minute there are players in the locker room and coaches who feel the team needs to cut ties with T.O. But as long as T.O. is Jerry Jones "love child," aint no way somebody's going to speak out against T.O.

Did you ever think it was one or at most two people? Possibly with an ax to grind. We don't know who is saying what or if it's true.

This is why I attacked, and attack is the right word, a forum member doing the same thing to an obscene amount. He said something which I then used against him in a manner that was obviously not really a true representation of him and the majority of his posts. When he had the tables turned on him he squealed like a girl and followed me all over the forum.

He never got the point. Anyone can say things about someone even reporting something they actually said and it not be an actual true picture of that person and the events. Putting all this crap in the national news can often be unfair. Once reported then others have no idea what to think and then it festers.

It's why gossip is not a nice thing to do and why many here are tired of it. How'd you like people reporting your private conversations with another then telling the world what you said. Especially if it doesn't truly reflect the entire conversation.

IT'S COWARDLY, unChristian, and unethical for the ***** ratting/gossiping and the same can be said of Werder. IOW's it's BS. See all my posts on this subject to get a minimialistic view of how I actually feel and think about it.

 

[JordanTaber]

When he whined about Witten being Romo's favorite.

When did he whine about Witten being "Romo's favorite?"

Here's a hint: It never happened. At least, not that anyone knows of.

 

[tomson75]

blah, blah...I'll give a damn when I read/hear something tangible! IMO, it seems like the Network is trying to boost ratings/web hits with this type of "reporting". I'm in the middle of the road on this issue, though.

Not on this forum your not.

If you don't accept this as groundbreaking, factual information, you're labeled a mindless simp that bows to the ever-increasing might of Jerry Jones and TO. You're a koolaid drinking moron, incapable of forming his own opinion. Your an absolutist, an incorrigible optimist that clearly lacks the ability to see things clearly.

OR......maybe you actually prefer to read stories with some insight beyond what a fifth grader could provide, or some factual information that can be supported beyond "some think it might happen".

I wonder which one is closer to the truth.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

When did he whine about Witten being "Romo's favorite?"

Here's a hint: It never happened. At least, not that anyone knows of.

The after-the-fact denials made by Witten and others always seemed more like classic non-denial denials to me. They were fuzzy and carefully parsed. Not the part about the altercation, interestingly. That was clearly denied by multiple parties that gave the denial a ring of plausibility.



But not the part about whining about favoritism and the like. Nobody was on the same page. Witten's interview was particularly interesting. He downplayed the controversy, etc., but did NOT clearly deny that some kind of whining had occurred.



Of course, that doesn't prove anything. It just explains my reasons for believing that the whining did probably happen.

 

[odog422]

No matter who might be floating it out there, it is a very dangerous game to be playing if you don't indeed wind up cutting TO. Because TO is the type that does not forget things and you know he has a paranoid type of mentality. He could make things much worse for the team if he thinks some coaches or FO people are talking about getting rid of him.

This is the main reason why I think that ship has sailed. If it's being blasted all over the national news media now, I don't see any way it's going to go away.

It's January and I shudder to think what Owens' reactions will be as he gets asked 10,000 times whether he thinks he is going to be released, if he thinks Garrett doesn't want him there, if he thinks Stephen Jones doesn't want him there, etc.

 

[jobberone]

Not this time.

There is obviously more to this than some of the previous stuff. Werder isn't the only one 'reporting' what a tattletell said.

This is news. It's not interpersonal relationship things which are highly difficult to articulate. Hell, I've counseled many couples and you can't get across things sitting in front of the principles much less working with hearsay.

The reports about cutting TO are different. At least in my eyes. Why doesn't Zack get any press for possibly being cut/not resigned. That was a tad surprising although not unexpected.

TO is an inflammatory word is the answer. And that's more a result of constant use of him than actual real news.

 

[odog422]

What I find amusing is the venom and the way so many get so so bent out of shape over what they deem is a "non-story."

If you don't believe it or think it's not credible, why go on and on trying to pick it apart to "prove" you're right and the "story" is wrong?

Not knocking anyone's right to express their opinion but it's just amazing how some take it so personal, but then say it's not true.

 

[tomson75]

What I find amusing is the venom and the way so many get so so bent out of shape over what they deem is a "non-story."

If you don't believe it or think it's not credible, why go on and on trying to pick it apart to "prove" you're right and the "story" is wrong?

Not knocking anyone's right to express their opinion but it's just amazing how some take it so personal, but then say it's not true.

Who's taking this story personally? I don't see that at all. I see people defending themselves from personal attacks by people with differing opinions, but no one is taking this story to heart....there is no reason to.

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

Not on this forum your not.

If you don't accept this as groundbreaking, factual information, you're labeled a mindless simp that bows to the ever-increasing might of Jerry Jones and TO. You're a koolaid drinking moron, incapable of forming his own opinion. Your an absolutist, an incorrigible optimist that clearly lacks the ability to see things clearly.

OR......maybe you actually prefer to read stories with some insight beyond what a fifth grader could provide, or some factual information that can be supported beyond "some think it might happen".

I wonder which one is closer to the truth.

Call me crazy, but I'll lean towards the latter...

 

[thisisepic]

So there is an unknown source speculating there could soon be a discussion about releasing T.O but there hasnt been yet.

This story makes TONS of sense.