Video: Star Crossed: The Carter-Romo Story

lostar2009

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Romo admitted he was tuned into the draft the year Brady Quinn was sliding down the board and he thought Jerry might draft him. Jerry always made it safe for Romo and always put older veterans to back him up that weren't any threats. His only real backup that may have pushed him was Kyle Orton and it looks like they didn't really care for each other.

The same with Manziel. Romo in my opinion has been good but not great for us. I guess in current day NFL your lucky to have good. I know Romo was screwing up bad in his first several years as a starter. The same negatives they talk about in this doc was his issues. Me personally I would have been drafted a qb to compete with Romo.
 

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The same with Manziel. Romo in my opinion has been good but not great for us. I guess in current day NFL your lucky to have good. I know Romo was screwing up bad in his first several years as a starter. The same negatives they talk about in this doc was his issues. Me personally I would have been drafted a qb to compete with Romo.

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The same with Manziel. Romo in my opinion has been good but not great for us. I guess in current day NFL your lucky to have good. I know Romo was screwing up bad in his first several years as a starter. The same negatives they talk about in this doc was his issues. Me personally I would have been drafted a qb to compete with Romo.

the Romo haters always amaze me with their ability to not recognize the obvious.
 

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the Romo haters always amaze me with their ability to not recognize the obvious.

Recognize what? Romo is good but not great. Are you telling me Romo is better than Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady ? Because in my book that's greatness. It doesn't mean we can't win a sb with him I just don't consider the guy great. And yes I would have drafted a qb behind him back in the 2010-2013 years. This organization put a great deal of faith in Romo coming off that back injury.
 

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I agree. He just couldn't handle challenges.

I was living in Atlanta at the time that QC was at UGA. He lived a sheltered and over-protected life. He was sorta coddled although still living in a rough neighborhood. And when he had to have the maturity and toughness to carve a name out for himself by himself and deal with the rigors and failures and use them as learning experiences and motivation, he just wasn't mentally prepared for it at all.

I was looking at QC's high school team when they went to states. 2 Olympians (in the hurdles), Cosey Coleman (former NFL guard) and Rodney Williams (former NFL punter). Team was stacked.

Today he would probably have Dez rules and might have made it. He was talented.


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I think Quincy had the tools to be a solid quarterback in this league. He'd show flashes. But he was battling too many demons and this probably wasn't the best organization at the time to handle a player like that here. By the time Parcells came along it was too late for him. I do remember them signing Hutchinson and giving him that 3 million dollar deal and thinking that has to mess with the psyche of Carter. It would be. I said the same thing when I saw the Deadskins take Cousins right after taking RGIII. It makes no sense. You give a quarterback your franchise but do it reluctantly and cautiously. You have to go all in with your quarterback and show your support.

It's obvious they weren't prepared because had they known the end was coming for Aikman Jerry wouldn't have traded two #1's for Joey Galloway prior to the 2000 season. That trade was all about pairing him with Aikman and they only ended up playing one game together.

Yeah its really what started the whole 5-11 mess. You had to prepare for life without Aikman without the 1st rounders to do it. I don't even think it was simply the Galloway deal as it was simply Aikman leaving when he did. Both factored in to the Cowboys demise though.
 

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the Romo haters always amaze me with their ability to not recognize the obvious.

Is there really truly a thing such as "Romo haters" in 2015? Its become a myth at this point. There's more people talking about the "Romo haters" than there are actual haters lol.
 

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great story. I am so glad that lacewell is not with the front office anymore. he was one of the main reasons for downfall of the team after the superbowl years.

Switzer's mentality of treat men like men also didn't help. To me it was Jerry, Lacewell and Switzer that brought this franchise to the dark ages. Honestly, would anyone ever hire Dave Campo to be the head coach of their franchise???? How do you le that guy be the head coach of the marque franchise of the NFL? He wasn't even a great Defensive Coordinator let alone Head Coach material. Jerry surround himself with "yes" men and didn't come out of that mindset until the press and media made fun of him every weekend. Thank goodness Parcells was available, because who knows what buddy from the college or pro ranks we would have picked at the time.
 

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Switzer's mentality of treat men like men also didn't help. To me it was Jerry, Lacewell and Switzer that brought this franchise to the dark ages. Honestly, would anyone ever hire Dave Campo to be the head coach of their franchise???? How do you le that guy be the head coach of the marque franchise of the NFL? He wasn't even a great Defensive Coordinator let alone Head Coach material. Jerry surround himself with "yes" men and didn't come out of that mindset until the press and media made fun of him every weekend. Thank goodness Parcells was available, because who knows what buddy from the college or pro ranks we would have picked at the time.

Just listening to Campo evaluate talent the other night on the TV broadcast had me cringing.

He may know X's and O's but he has no business giving opinions about player talent.
 

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Yeah its really what started the whole 5-11 mess. You had to prepare for life without Aikman without the 1st rounders to do it. I don't even think it was simply the Galloway deal as it was simply Aikman leaving when he did. Both factored in to the Cowboys demise though.

The Cowboys were a declining team heading into the 2000 season they just lost Irvin the year before and we saw what his loss did to a promising start to the 99 season. The Cowboys started off 3-0 in 99 then Irvin went down in Philly the following week and that derailed the season. Not having that reliable go to receiver really affected Aikman. He was only sacked twice in the first 3 games of the 99 season and his first game without Irvin Troy took 3 sacks vs the Giants then 2 weeks later he got sacked 4 times vs Indy. He started getting hit a lot and it began to effect his game. Aikman had 7 TD passes in the first 3 games that season but only 10 more after Irvin went down.

This prompted Jerry to make the trade for Galloway the following year. I'm not sure that trade would have worked out had Galloway not been injured in 2000 because he was a deep threat similar to Rocket. With the Cowboys already having a stretch the field speed threat they needed a big bodied over the middle receiver like Irvin. With Lafleur not becoming the security blanket that Novacek was the loss of Irvin was a huge blow to Aikman's career. The OL was in deep decline he didn't have a lot of time to find open receivers and the hits kept coming until the one below ended his career.

 

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This was really an excellent watch. It's amazing how you view things through the glass of time and certain things gain perspective. Those were dark times for the organization, for sure. As I watched that piece, I could not help but notice how much Tony talks about his relationship with his father and how he leaned on him in so many areas of his life. Quincy had talent and he could have been a decent NFL QB if things were different for him in his own personal development IMO. I never felt like he was very accurate but, that's something that Parcells did help with and if he had been able to get around his personal issues, he may have had a decent career. With Tony, that structure he had in his young life made a real difference for him. Perhaps I am completely off base, I don't know a great deal about Quincy and his early life, but if I had to point to one single factor in why one guy made it and why one guy failed, I think that's probably a pretty good one. JMO
 

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I believe that Michael Vick was all the rage back then and it got into Jerry's psyche in wanting a QB just like Vick. Thus came about the selection of Carter.

Just my opinion but I feel that was the case then. Jerry like to chase after the next big thing and the selection of Carter seems to have been the case.

As I recall it was about finding his version of McNabb who was leading the Eagles in trouncing us on a regular basis.

He saw the success that the Eagles were having with Donovan and he wanted his own version of that type of QB. A mobile guy who could run for yards and scramble around. Which led to him reaching on a kid who, if I recall correctly, wasn't even going to be the starter at Georgia his senior year, had he returned to school.
 

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This was really an excellent watch. It's amazing how you view things through the glass of time and certain things gain perspective. Those were dark times for the organization, for sure. As I watched that piece, I could not help but notice how much Tony talks about his relationship with his father and how he leaned on him in so many areas of his life. Quincy had talent and he could have been a decent NFL QB if things were different for him in his own personal development IMO. I never felt like he was very accurate but, that's something that Parcells did help with and if he had been able to get around his personal issues, he may have had a decent career. With Tony, that structure he had in his young life made a real difference for him. Perhaps I am completely off base, I don't know a great deal about Quincy and his early life, but if I had to point to one single factor in why one guy made it and why one guy failed, I think that's probably a pretty good one. JMO

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Recognize what? Romo is good but not great. Are you telling me Romo is better than Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady ? Because in my book that's greatness. It doesn't mean we can't win a sb with him I just don't consider the guy great. And yes I would have drafted a qb behind him back in the 2010-2013 years. This organization put a great deal of faith in Romo coming off that back injury.

If Dallas drafted a QB in 2010 or 2011 they would be gone by now. After sitting behind Romo for a few years they would want to be starting now and would go the free agent route. It also isn't about just drafting a QB. You have to draft the right QB. There were several QBs drafted between 2010 and 2013 that have not amounted to anything.
 

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I tend to agree. However, it's amazing how often our society tends to overlook that very important fact.

I'm not sure it's society that tends to overlook that fact...I think it's the parents that overlook that fact. Divorce, not caring, no discipline, drugs and alcohol use, abuse, poverty...tons of things that have an effect on a child.

But, a funny thing going back to Romo...usually when you hear success stories from players they always (most times anyway), they credit their mother for their upbringing and success. It's rare that you hear a player credit the dad for their success, but Romo seems to always give the credit to his dad.

QC probably did not have any of that, just like T.O. did not even know his dad and the poor guy had some mental problems although he was a hell of a receiver.
 

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Romo only got $10,000 to sign as a free agent and passed up $25,000 from Denver? I always heard he got $30,000 to convince him to sign with the Cowboys.
 

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Romo only got $10,000 to sign as a free agent and passed up $25,000 from Denver? I always heard he got $30,000 to convince him to sign with the Cowboys.

I heard they said they'd go that high and Sean Payton said,"I'll get him for 10."
 
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