Stephen Gilmore pick

[MarcusRock]

I got busted? LOL. Nice try using a slow motion video and then comparing it to another video at faster speed. Good trick to convince yourself refs are never wrong.
Why don't you put up a slomo version of MG's video? That will show clearly MG's head being turned and is much closer to the NFL video showing Amari facemasked.

And it's laughable to say that the contact was incidental. Grabbing a face mask where it forces the players head to get twisted is not incidental.

The slow motion video was YOUR video you produced here. The video I used was the NBC REPLAY VIDEO posted by another in this thread. I didn't "use" anything. I put out there was was out there already. Why don't you find the real motion video since YOU only produced a slow motion video. No tricks like you needed to try to do. I posted what was there. Don't be mad you got exposed.

 

[Zman5]

Lies, bro. Lies. This is PRECISELY why I used the start-stop GIF to show the exact point it happens and where Gallup's head is, which is toward Gilmore of his own accord as he tries to push back. You clearly used a snapshot later in the video as Gallup was striding to try to say, "Oh, look Gallup's head was straight at the very beginning." Nonsense. Video tells the whole story and exposed your lies. Gallup looked at him and downward the first time he tried to fend him off AND the second time. Watch. The. Video. Not some slanted still shot BS that you peddled with your "oh it must have been this ..." reasoning. Show what really happened the whole way.

Why don't you put up a slow-motion version of MG's video? That will show clearly Gilmore yanking on MG's head and it wasn't incidental.

 

[Zman5]

The slow motion video was YOUR video you produced here. The video I used was the NBC REPLAY VIDEO posted by another in this thread. I didn't "use" anything. I put out there was was out there already. Why don't you find the real motion video since YOU only produced a slow motion video. No tricks like you needed to try to do. I posted what was there. Don't be mad you got exposed.

I got exposed? LOL. Only in your ref's jock sniffing mind. It just proves you will continue to act foolish sticking up for the refs no matter what. Even going against what NFL Football operations says in their own rules video. I shouldn't be surprised. You did the same thing last year with Parson's sack vs the Chargers.

 

[MarcusRock]

Why don't you put up a slow-motion version of MG's video? That will show clearly Gilmore yanking on MG's head and it wasn't incidental.

Like I told you from the beginning, you looking at things in slow motion was your problem in the first place. At real speed, it was even faster than half a second that Gilmore's hand was there. Hell, even in your deceptive pictures, Gilmore's hands are open and not even grasping the facemask (zoomed in below). How could he have "pulled" it? He couldn't because the video showed Gilmore was pushing the entire way and the hand got in the facemask. Clearly incidental and you're clearly busted.

 

[MarcusRock]

I got exposed? LOL. Only in your ref's jock sniffing mind. It just proves you will continue to act foolish sticking up for the refs no matter what. Even going against what NFL Football operations says in their own rules video. I shouldn't be surprised. You did the same thing last year with Parson's sack vs the Chargers.

You're whining about me using the slow motion video YOU provided to the thread, tried a grade school trick you got busted for and I'm the one acting foolish? Wow. Lol.

 

[Zman5]

You're whining about me using the slow motion video YOU provided to the thread, tried a grade school trick you got busted for and I'm the one acting foolish? Wow. Lol.

No I'm pointing out you should have posted slow down version of MG's video so that you are comparing apples to apples.
If anyone got busted, it's you by trying to put up two videos with at different speeds and telling people "look these two videos are different". Yeh no crap Sherlock.

 

[Zman5]

Like I told you from the beginning, you looking at things in slow motion was your problem in the first place. At real speed, it was even faster than half a second that Gilmore's hand was there. Hell, even in your deceptive pictures, Gilmore's hands are open and not even grasping the facemask (zoomed in below). How could he have "pulled" it? He couldn't because the video showed Gilmore was pushing the entire way and the hand got in the facemask. Clearly incidental and you're clearly busted.

Wrong again. To say Gilmore's contact is incidental is bunch of crock. Your body don't turn like that unless there was some significant force applied.

 

[Rockport]

You're known for your astute quarterback takes.

 

[MarcusRock]

No I'm pointing out you should have posted slow down version of MG's video so that you are comparing apples to apples.
If anyone got busted, it's you by trying to put up two videos with at different speeds and telling people "look these two videos are different". Yeh no crap Sherlock.

They're different because one is an incidental push of a facemask and the other is an egregious pull. Are you saying those are equal facemask incidents? Even when your slanted pictures don't even show Gilmore's fingers closed and grasping at all? Don't play dumb. You don't need a speed similarity to see they're not even on the same planet.

 

[MarcusRock]

Wrong again. To say Gilmore's contact is incidental is bunch of crock. Your body don't turn like that unless there was some significant force applied.

Are Gilmore's fingers grasping Gallup's facemask in your own pictures you tried to pass off?

 

[Zman5]

Are Gilmore's fingers grasping Gallup's facemask in your own pictures you tried to pass off?

Did Gilmore make contact with MG's facemask that made MG's head turn?

What does it say from the NFL's rules video at 36 seconds?

 

[MarcusRock]

Did Gilmore make contact with MG's facemask that made MG's head turn?

What does it say from the NFL's rules video at 36 seconds?

Nope, because as YOU showed, Gilmore's fingers were open and not grasping the facemask. Why are you refusing to answer the questions? Your own dang "evidence" did you in. Lol. Oh, what a tangled web we weave ...

 

[JayFord]

Gilmore commited hands to the face

Gallup wasnt crisp in that route and had slipped

Gilmore was in good position

Pass shouldnt have been thrown.....

it was ugly from the beginning

 

[Zman5]

Nope, because as YOU showed, Gilmore's fingers were open and not grasping the facemask. Why are you refusing to answer the questions? Your own dang "evidence" did you in. Lol. Oh, what a tangled web we weave ...

The rule says nothing about how the contact is made. Are you now making up your own rule now? So the refs are now looking at to see if there were open fingers? LOL. You'll make up anything to say refs are never wrong.

 

[MarcusRock]

The rule says nothing about how the contact is made. Are you now making up your own rule now? So the refs are now looking at to see if there were open fingers? LOL. You'll make up anything to say refs are never wrong.

Still not answering? Second time asking:

Are the two video examples shown in here equal facemask incidents? Are Gilmore's fingers grasping Gallup's facemask?

 

[tyke1doe]

I guess this stream of discussion will conclude when the Cowboys kickoff this Sunday.

 

[Zman5]

Still not answering? Second time asking:

Are the two video examples shown in here equal facemask incidents? Are Gilmore's fingers grasping Gallup's facemask?

He has his index, and middle fingers in his grill and is pushing down on his face mask and also yanking at one point which forces MG's head to go down.

Are you now saying you can yank on the face mask as long as you have one or two finger not closed?

 

[Zman5]

So this is incidental contact? Only a clown with an agenda would think that.

 

[MarcusRock]

He has his index, and middle fingers in his grill and is pushing down on his face mask and also yanking at one point which forces MG's head to go down.

Are you now saying you can yank on the face mask as long as you have one or two finger not closed?

He had zero fingers closed. Your own pictures showed this. What's hard about this?

Also, third time asking:

Are the two video examples shown in here equal facemask incidents? Are Gilmore's fingers grasping Gallup's facemask?

 

[Zman5]

He had zero fingers closed. Your own pictures showed this. What's hard about this?

Also, third time asking:

Are the two video examples shown in here equal facemask incidents? Are Gilmore's fingers grasping Gallup's facemask?

Why aren't you answering my question? Are you saying it's ok to have your hand in a player's facemask and push down on it or yank on it as long as not all of the fingers are closed?