Stephen Jones blames the salary cap for not pursuing Derrick Henry

[triplets_93]

People love to rag on Jerry(understandable hes warranted it) but Stephen is going to be a 1000x worse then his father . You think we have been a joke since Jerry ego took over buckle up

I think that once JJ is gone, that Stephen, no longer under the JJ Regime, will be his own man, and hire a real NFL GM. No one is JJ but JJ.

 

[diamonddelts]

2 mil against cap for Zeke he can earn another Mil in incentives

Incentives for averaging 1 blade of grass per carry?

 

[diamonddelts]

Every time I start to get excited about the 2024 season even a little bit Stephen Jones opens his mouth and reminds me that the team we all love is ran by fools.

You getting excited about the 2024 season is the real problem. Jerry loves fans such as yourself.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Paying a RB good money hasn't worked out in a long time.

Last time they did that they prorated and June 1 cut to the tune of we still owe $6m of Zeke's last contract this season.

Cowboys screwed that up but also hit home runs in the draft at QB, DE, and WR. They are set to make $55m+ and the other two $40m or more. That leaves us with at least $135m to fit into a $260m cap. For 3 out of 53 players.

It's like being credit poor and people around here act like the oblivious kids of said credit poor families.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You getting excited about the 2024 season is the real problem. Jerry loves fans such as yourself.

So your disposition is that all support of Jerry must be stopped for the good of the Cowboys so you are going to try and dissuade others from supporting the team on the interwebs.

You are trying too hard.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Correct me if I'm wrong but all he had to do was restructure 1 or 2 players. Think about it, he's paying Zeke what, $2-3M but could find another $5-6M to pay Henry? Odd he would say this .......


https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...failure-to-pursue-derrick-henry-on-salary-cap

Stephen Jones blames failure to pursue Derrick Henry on salary cap​

• By
• Mike Florio

Published May 6, 2024 04:14 PM


Ravens running back Derrick Henry had interest in at least hearing from the Cowboys in free agency. The Cowboys, however, never called.

Appearing with Adam Schein of SiriusXM Mad Dog Radio, Cowboys executive V.P. Stephen Jones addressed the failure to make a phone call to Henry.

“Well, first of all, nothing but respect for Derrick Henry,” Jones said. “I mean, he’s one of the top backs in this league. He’s had one of the great careers in this league. I wish him nothing but the best with the Ravens. I’m sure a great place for him. Our situation is just, you know, and no one ever wants to say it, but it’s salary cap, and we just didn’t have the money to allocate to that position in terms of where we were from a cap standpoint, knowing what we’re looking at with Dak [Prescott] and certainly Micah [Parsons] and CeeDee Lamb. We just didn’t have those type of resources to allocate to that position or we probably would’ve already had it filled with Tony Pollard. We hated to lose Tony Pollard. We had to lose Zeke the year before from a cap standpoint. And, you know, we just didn’t have the dollars to allocate to the running back position. And, certainly, looking to do it in a more efficient way in terms of how it complements the rest of our offensive roster.”


No clue who PFT who is in the pic.......don't think it's Henry though

Lies! The cap is a myth!
The cap never ever affects behavior!

 

[diamonddelts]

So your disposition is that all support of Jerry must be stopped for the good of the Cowboys so you are going to try and dissuade others from supporting the team on the interwebs.

You are trying too hard.

Jerry loves fans of a certain caliber. The more he abuses their hopes and dreams, the more money they hand him every year. It takes a certain kind of person to be in a 30 year toxic relationship and have hope that this year is different.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Jerry loves fans of a certain caliber. The more he abuses their hopes and dreams, the more money they hand him every year. It takes a certain kind of person to be in a 30 year toxic relationship and have hope that this year is different.

And you are thus the victim. I get it but that is not my point.

 

[CowboyoWales]

No. Jerry and his son are holding everything back.

As we're talking about Henry, yes, the FO is using the CAP as an excuse and yes agree their holding back......as it allows: a) PR transference of blame b) not giving Dak a team to show his tallents....in a contract year.

The Ravens organization have figured out how to sign their QB to one of the largest contracts in NFL history and still, somehow, they can sign Henry. The salary cap is the exact same for all 32 teams. The only difference is how teams choose to manage it.

As regards the CAP, this is another case of where 'The Jones Model' (of continually competing) falls down and the restructured Dead Money overloads in the end. The difference with Baltimore (and Phill) is that they have secured longer contracts, with QB's and will be resetting(taking the CAP hit) 26/27 and (Eagles in 2029). The issue for both teams is when these resets occur and what contract Jackson and Hurts will accept.

They don’t know what they want to do.

Yep, they've cut the peripheries of the roster, which is the usual Jerry *****....(and the BIG CAP problem), is that we save so much money on a handful of 'elite' contracts to the detriment of the roster.

The real plan should be. If he cant sign Dak, is to cut him Pre-June and take the full CAP hit in 2024. Im saying this as the FO should be smart enough facepalm: ) to work out Dak's incentive be it: Money/Location/ Success. This will save $30m in 2025 and could help facilitate the (varied)extensions to Micah and CeeDee)......and working on the knowledge through the negotiation (if they ever get to sit down with Dak) re-enter the race, when he hits the market in 2025.
Sorry Mods, went OT a bit.

 

[DuncanIso]

It’s the truth.

Some of us have been warning about the cap problems.

We still have problems.

They need to clear 20-30 million just to start the season.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Paying a RB good money hasn't worked out in a long time.

But, if we're realistically going to win ,with Dak, then we need the running game. The whole Blueprint starts with stopping the run and 'seeing, if Dak can beat us' (Jimmie Ward).
If nothing else, an effective RB game (even by committee, or via elite run blocking) will keep defenses honest.
Not looking at a modest outlay for Henry, nor improving in the draft is just pure snipe at Dak (imo).

 

[DuncanIso]

As we're talking about Henry, yes, the FO is using the CAP as an excuse and yes agree their holding back......as it allows: a) PR transference of blame b) not giving Dak a team to show his tallents....in a contract year.


As regards the CAP, this is another case of where 'The Jones Model' (of continually competing) falls down and the restructured Dead Money overloads in the end. The difference with Baltimore (and Phill) is that they have secured longer contracts, with QB's and will be resetting(taking the CAP hit) 26/27 and (Eagles in 2029). The issue for both teams is when these resets occur and what contract Jackson and Hurts will accept.


Yep, they've cut the peripheries of the roster, which is the usual Jerry *****....(and the BIG CAP problem), is that we save so much money on a handful of 'elite' contracts to the detriment of the roster.

The real plan should be. If he cant sign Dak, is to cut him Pre-June and take the full CAP hit in 2024. Im saying this as the FO should be smart enough facepalm: ) to work out Dak's incentive be it: Money/Location/ Success. This will save $30m in 2025 and could help facilitate the (varied)extensions to Micah and CeeDee)......and working on the knowledge through the negotiation (if they ever get to sit down with Dak) re-enter the race, when he hits the market in 2025.
Sorry Mods, went OT a bit.

It has to be a post June cut.

Dallas doesnt even have the cap space to sign their draft class.

 

[DuncanIso]

What dak gets paid in 24 has nothing to do with his cap hit.

Those numbers you are throwing around have no meaning if you dont understand them.

55 million cap hit in 2024.

 

[CowboyoWales]

It’s the truth.

Some of us have been warning about the cap problems.

We still have problems.

They need to clear 20-30 million just to start the season.

Yep, the CAP doesnt hit the top of the roster, it hits the bottom and you're left with too many JAGS in starting ( or relied up back-up) roles.

 

[DuncanIso]

Where's the "cap is a myth" crowd?

I think fans have ignored that problem.

 

[CowboyoWales]

It has to be a post June cut.

Dallas doesnt even have the cap space to sign their draft class.

Nope, it'll only take finding another $11m to Pre-June (we'd be off the hook for his $29m base salary).

 

[G2]

Which is his job.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

But, if we're realistically going to win ,with Dak, then we need the running game. The whole Blueprint starts with stopping the run and 'seeing, if Dak can beat us' (Jimmie Ward).
If nothing else, an effective RB game (even by committee, or via elite run blocking) will keep defenses honest.
Not looking at a modest outlay for Henry, nor improving in the draft is just pure snipe at Dak (imo).

A star running back brings you big plays. A successful running game does not require big plays. It requires you to get 4 yards or more whenever you want and doubly so on first down, red zone, and short yardage.

To do that you need an OL that can move people. We don't run the stretch counter misdirection game. We need maulers.

If you take what you say to be true and what I am saying to be true then what the Cowboys have done in double dipping OL makes sense.

 

[CowboyoWales]

A star running back brings you big plays. A successful running game does not require big plays. It requires you to get 4 yards or more whenever you want and doubly so on first down, red zone, and short yardage.

To do that you need an OL that can move people. We don't run the stretch counter misdirection game. We need maulers.

If you take what you say to be true and what I am saying to be true then what the Cowboys have done in double dipping OL makes sense.

So you actually agree with what I said

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So you actually agree with what I said

In part. I have zero interest in the Dak pigeonholing. You have fun with it though.