Stephen Jones: Hints they are still looking at pass rushers

[Sydla]

That's a crap argument tho. How do you expect them to get more sacks if you want to delegate them to the bench and not trust them to get sacks when you don't wanna give them playing time to get those sacks. Tapper is a rookie and Russell basically is too so that's some weak cherry picked mess man

Except you missed the point.

The point being that right now the Cowboys will be putting 4 guys on the field to start that year that have simply have not shown whether they can or cannot rush the passer. The 2.5 sacks total is proof of that. They are complete and utter unknowns in an area that is arguably our biggest weakness - rushing the passer.

So if you can add a veteran to play alongside them, it's stunning to me that people think that's a bad idea. It's stunning to me that no one would entertain bringing in a guy who had 8 sacks in 11 games last year and wouldn't cost a whole lot of money. Worst case scenario? He sucks. And you cut him. Costs you very little, especially if you have a deal like Arizona where he had sack incentives built into his contract.

 

[Sydla]

Collins gets back, D Law comes back, Mayowa heals up. With T Crawford, J Crawford, and Thornton, you have a good idea of what you are going to get. So you are looking for someone out of Tapper, Russell, Irving to step up. Is it largely unproven? Yes. But this is no preseason 2014 situation. There is much more talent here now on the d line. We sure will see. I am ok with the what we have. A lot of young hungry players. The oldest guy is what 27? No bad contracts either.

Signing a guy like Freeney wouldn't be a bad contract thought either. He's likely going to get a deal similar to what Arizona gave him. $1MM in salary and then sack incentives.

 

[Sydla]

True, and I may be wrong, but denver paid ware a lot more money, and he was basically a passing down only guy.
He was rotated in and out, and I dont know how many sacks he wound up with each of his 2 years there.

It is like Ricky proel sp? he was older wr, who would only come in occasionally, usually 3rd down, but would get open, and catch the pass!
Those type players, the plays they do make, can wind up helping a team win a few games they otherwise lose.

I think dallas may be a little carried away with having young players, (except tony and witten lol) and I think Frenney
might be a good deal.
The only thing I would ask is why did Arizona not resign him again??

Arizona traded for Chandler Jones in March. Also, Alex Okafor is supposed to be healthy (Freeney was signed in Oct of last year after Okafor got hurt). So they don't need Freeney anymore.

 

[TrailBlazer]

I can see disagreeing with Stephen, but I don't see why people are shocked with how the team feels. They have young d line with a lot of projected talent and no bad contracts.

Who is going to produce sacks and get this defense off the field? You says its 'young projected talent' and i say it's nothing but question marks at defensive end and this FO is sitting on their hands. Lack of pressure on opposing QB's has been a problem for this team. I'm not sure how anyone can be happy or 'fired up' about the group of pass rushers Dallas will be trotting out there week 1 if they don't make a move. I believe in Marinelli but you have to give him something to work with.

 

[Stash]

Signing a guy like Freeney wouldn't be a bad contract thought either. He's likely going to get a deal similar to what Arizona gave him. $1MM in salary and then sack incentives.

An interesting experiment would be to change the name from "Freeney" to "Ware", and watch how any of the "progress stoppers" opinions would change.

Despite the fact that Freeney is ready to go and Ware's back issues are becoming unmanageable.

 

[CWR]

How is that a pass rusher hint?

Lol, wishful thinking?

 

[JBS]

How about trading for J. Clowney?

He's in the wrong scheme in HOU...probably wouldn't command anything crazy in return...and still has some upside

 

[big dog cowboy]

The point being that right now the Cowboys will be putting 4 guys on the field to start that year that have simply have not shown whether they can or cannot rush the passer. The 2.5 sacks total is proof of that.

Doesn't prove much to me. How much of a chance had they had? The Cowboys like what they see enough they haven't signed any vets. That means much more to me.

 

[LittleD]

Signing a guy like Freeney wouldn't be a bad contract thought either. He's likely going to get a deal similar to what Arizona gave him. $1MM in salary and then sack incentives.

We know your opinion. We've heard it for days... Jerry and Stephen have heard it from the mediots too. Guess what?
They don't share your opinion and the coaching staff isn't clamoring for said Mr. Freeney either. Will McClay hasn't called him in for
a looksee either. You'd think they'd just call you up and ask for your opinion. I don't think he's even on the radar until the season
starts and maybe not even then.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I just hate this starting an argument over again with you cause we are never going to agree. Stephen just said that they like and are comfortable with the guys they have at DE and Marinelli will coach them up. I know this just kills you but, the Cowboys FO seems to be in my corner not yours.
Now don't go away mad...just go away and pester someone else.

So you ignore what Stephen says in the first quote in favor of an unrelated quote that supports your contention?

Two things can be equally true: 1) he foresees the team adding another pass rusher and 2) they're excited at some of the young players they have.

The reality of either point doesn't negate the other.

 

[LittleD]

So you ignore what Stephen says in the first quote in favor of an unrelated quote that supports your contention?

Two things can be equally true: 1) he foresees the team adding another pass rusher and 2) they're excited at some of the young players they have.

The reality of either point doesn't negate the other.

Not ignoring anything Stephen said. He said that in a couple of weeks they would know from Marinelli & Lett if they had the personnel they need at DE. If not,
they will get with Will McClay and find someone to come in. I never heard any interest from Jerry, Stephen, Garrett or Marinelli that they just have to have
36 year old Dwight Freeney. Nope...not ever.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Not ignoring anything Stephen said. He said that in a couple of weeks they would know from Marinelli & Lett if they had the personnel they need at DE. If not,
they will get with Will McClay and find someone to come in. I never heard any interest from Jerry, Stephen, Garrett or Marinelli that they just have to have
36 year old Dwight Freeney. Nope...not ever.

And you'd expect them to announce the name of the specific player they're targeting?

Lol, smh.

I'm not even saying they're targeting Freeney, but to argue from silence "well, they haven't said his name" is silly.

 

[LittleD]

And you'd expect them to announce the name of the specific player they're targeting?

Lol, smh.

I'm not even saying they're targeting Freeney, but to argue from silence "well, they haven't said his name" is silly.

Use the common sense you have. If they thought that Mr. Freeney was the answer and some other team like the Atlanta Falcons was about to swoop in
and scoop him up, don't you think they would fly him in for a conversation. The tealeaves say to me that Mr. Freeney would be a last resort at best and
they are not interested in bringing him in anytime soon. JMVHO and thanks for playing!

 

[Hardline]

We aren't one pass rusher from pushing this defense over the top.
For me it's the youngsters or bust.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Use the common sense you have. If they thought that Mr. Freeney was the answer and some other team like the Atlanta Falcons was about to swoop in
and scoop him up, don't you think they would fly him in for a conversation. The tealeaves say to me that Mr. Freeney would be a last resort at best and
they are not interested in bringing him in anytime soon. JMVHO and thanks for playing!

Common sense would tell you that naming to the media the specific player they may be targeting (be it Freeney or whomever) publicly is stupid.

But I get it. You realize you said something silly and are trying to own it and run with it now. Carry on.

 

[jnday]

We know your opinion. We've heard it for days... Jerry and Stephen have heard it from the mediots too. Guess what?
They don't share your opinion and the coaching staff isn't clamoring for said Mr. Freeney either. Will McClay hasn't called him in for
a looksee either. You'd think they'd just call you up and ask for your opinion. I don't think he's even on the radar until the season
starts and maybe not even then.

Considering that the lack of a pass rush has been s problem for the last several years, it would benefit the coaching staff to call somebody, anybody, just don't continue with this failed approach. Defending their total failure in this area is not wise. Every stat, fact , etc is against you.

 

[zekecowboy]

Thanks for posting RS12...

Fish quoting Stephen Jones saying that there will be someone on the final 53 man roster who isn't in camp can be filed under "Duh" or "No **** "

I need to go sign up for the premium content. LOL The real question is well Dallas sign O'Brien Schofield before or after the first season game.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Use the common sense you have. If they thought that Mr. Freeney was the answer and some other team like the Atlanta Falcons was about to swoop in
and scoop him up, don't you think they would fly him in for a conversation. The tealeaves say to me that Mr. Freeney would be a last resort at best and
they are not interested in bringing him in anytime soon. JMVHO and thanks for playing!

This. What most in favor of signing Freeney fail to consider is whether he can play more than 20-25 snaps a game. The Cowboys need solid play from their DEs, not just pass rush skills. If they sign anyone it has to be someone who can give them 40-50 snaps a game.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

We aren't one pass rusher from pushing this defense over the top.
For me it's the youngsters or bust.

 

[Cowboys22]

This. What most in favor of signing Freeney fail to consider is whether he can play more than 20-25 snaps a game. The Cowboys need solid play from their DEs, not just pass rush skills. If they sign anyone it has to be someone who can give them 40-50 snaps a game.

Why? They have plenty of serviceable guys that can rotate in and out and give you solid play carrying out their assignment. What they need is a guy who can get pressure on 3rd downs and help the defense get off the field. A fresh Freeney coming off the bench for 20-25 snaps, mostly 3rd downs, seems to me to be exactly what they need until they can develop a few full time DEs that can actually sniff the QB from time to time. There are no 40-50 snap DEs available that are any better than what we have. If you want to talk about DEs that can actually sack the QB, then there is one sitting out there that could help and would not break the bank. If they brought Freeney in, I would feel so much better about the D and I bet most Cowboys fans would to.