Twitter: Stephen Jones on KRLD Calls out Claiborne

Double Trouble said:
Idiocy. When he talks about needing to see more, he should be referring to his father and himself. Or better,yet, better that we never see any of either of them, ever again, apart from getting hammered in the owners box.
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Bingo! get rid of Mo, Carter and T. Williams today, and this team would still be bad and losing.they were losing before those guys got here. and they will be losing when they are gone. this is a bad football team.
 
DOUBLE WING said:
What's stopping us from winning games are the people in charge of this organization. When the people in charge of this organization try to deflect the blame onto other people, that's a problem.

The radio show has nothing to do with wins and losses. I was just making a comment about it. Sorry if that offended you. Are you a big fan of Stephen's show?
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Didn't even know he had a show. I just see this every time we lose. We look for reasons why we lost. Its never that team was simply outcoached or outplayed. The first thing to do is run and blame Jerry. But none of these guys JErry hired are new. All of these guys have done their jobs before and are expected to do them well here just like they did in their previous destinations. But we constantly let the players and coaches off the hook.....just sick of it but its whatever. Not trying to be argumentative just trying to understand what Stephen having a radio that i've never heard of has to do with why we lost yesterday.
 
DOUBLE WING said:
What's stopping us from winning games are the people in charge of this organization. When the people in charge of this organization try to deflect the blame onto other people, that's a problem.

The radio show has nothing to do with wins and losses. I was just making a comment about it. Sorry if that offended you. Are you a big fan of Stephen's show?
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How so? If the player does not work out then it is on the organization and they have taken the heat, demanding better from the players is not deflecting anything.
 
rocyaice said:
At the end of the day these players go out there and play and these coaches go out there and coach. If this team underachieves its not because of any radio show or talk show a owner has......
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That's a nice sound bite, but context matters. It's a lot harder to just go out there and coach when two bozos in the press box are meddling in everything you're trying to do.

Classic Bill Parcells strategy would be to try to build a guy up when he's down, but hey, kicking him while he's down seems smart too. Stephen has as many skins on the wall as BP, this should end well.
 
SWG9 said:
That's a nice sound bite, but context matters. It's a lot harder to just go out there and coach when two bozos in the press box are meddling in everything you're trying to do.

Classic Bill Parcells strategy would be to try to build a guy up when he's down, but hey, kicking him while he's down seems smart too. Stephen has as many skins on the wall as BP, this should end well.
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Because the orgainzation is demanding better from players they have invested in? Fans are quick to demand more from players but those who are paying the players should not demand more? Gotcha
 
rocyaice said:
Didn't even know he had a show. I just see this every time we lose. We look for reasons why we lost. Its never that team was simply outcoached or outplayed. The first thing to do is run and blame Jerry. But none of these guys JErry hired are new. All of these guys have done their jobs before and are expected to do them well here just like they did in their previous destinations. But we constantly let the players and coaches off the hook.....just sick of it but its whatever. Not trying to be argumentative just trying to understand what Stephen having a radio that i've never heard of has to do with why we lost yesterday.
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Stephen having a radio show has nothing to do with wins and losses and I never suggested it does. That is an imaginary argument that you pulled out of thin air and are now trying to argue against. I'm not sure why, but have fun if that's what you want to do.

"We constantly let players and coaches off the hook" -- really? Do you ever read this board? There is enough blame to go around for Garrett/Romo/Murray/Defense after a loss that it's really interesting to hear someone say that.

It doesn't really matter what any of us think though. The ultimate "decision makers" are the Jones boys, and until they realize they are really the problem, nothing will change. Do you see how ridiculous it is for Stephen to publicly trash a player? I wish the radio co-host would have said, "Well Stephen, you and your dad made the decision to trade up for him last year in the draft. Was that a bad draft pick by the Cowboys?" and see what he says.
 
Doomsday101 said:
How so? If the player does not work out then it is on the organization and they have taken the heat, demanding better from the players is not deflecting anything.
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Because when you single out Mo you make it sound like he is the reason we're not winning. There's a lot of blame to go around. Stephen really has no business going out and calling out a single player. Especially since he isn't the coach. I feel it would be much more productive to just point out the fact that EVERYONE needs to get better. It would be nice for some self-reflection, admitting that he and Jerry need to do a better job as well, but that's probably never going to happen.
 
SWG9 said:
That's a nice sound bite, but context matters. It's a lot harder to just go out there and coach when two bozos in the press box are meddling in everything you're trying to do.

Classic Bill Parcells strategy would be to try to build a guy up when he's down, but hey, kicking him while he's down seems smart too. Stephen has as many skins on the wall as BP, this should end well.
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Well this team was 13-3 with those same bozo's in the press box not many years ago.....

And this is football. You don't build a guy up when he's down. That's how you end up with Barbie Carpenter. You let him know he's not performing well and Carter being the true football player he is will come out next week and play much better. I'm sure the coaches in film will show him where and what he did wrong.
 
It's not his own show per say. He has a like 10 minute segment every Monday on the Fan and he is asked questions by the disc jockeys usually about the latest game. He said the stuff about Mo and everyone else but he also followed it up with something to the extent of but we have complete confidence he will turn it around. He pretty much said that about every player he "called out" this morning
 
Doomsday101 said:
How so? If the player does not work out then it is on the organization and they have taken the heat, demanding better from the players is not deflecting anything.
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Organizational cohesion matters. You've hired coaches to do this job for you, it makes no sense to meddle in that area and disrupt everything.

Again, if someone can logically explain to me how the owner's son having his own radio snow does anything good for the franchise (and inflating Stephen's ego doesn't count) I'm all ears.
 
Like both points. You MUST get the ball into the hands of your playmakers. Coaches across the league face getting their playmaker the ball with double coverage and do indeed find a way to get it done. Instead, we throw 5yd option routes to Witten whom immediately gets tackled on 3rd and 10. We spend too much time taking what the defense gives us and not enough time getting our best playmakers involved IMO.

Mo, needs to step it up and this week! He does or he gets severely embarrassed by Peyton and the the NFL's best team. OS might be moving to the outside pos if Mo has another showing like the last 3. He is lost out there right now. Maybe the Saints w/ Rob would want Mo or the Jets? He isn't cut out for this scheme and has years to develop.
 
rocyaice said:
I watched the game last night and Matt Ryan had no problems throwing to a double covered Julio Jones. Stafford as well to Calvin Johnson. Might not be great examples since both teams haven't been great this year but I do think you have to keep the offense honest and those little fade and hitch routes to Dez Bryant after 10 yards are great here and there but it seems like you're playing in favor for the defense.
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sure on 10 yard routes...Safety should have not time to get over there....but to look at a Safety and CB within 3 yards of Dez and just throw it up for grabs? That is NOT a solution? What are we PAYING offensive architescts for? Why are we watching film? Why take a week between games and have advanced scouts? If the best thing we can come up with is sandlot football. Bunch formations. Sending him motion. Putting him in the slot. Do you recall TO running wide open down the field in Dallas? I do! You have to call the right plays and let them develop. You have to move Dez around. You have to have an effective running game. And sure...sometimes the situation calls for taking chances. But Dez will be doubled ALL season...and they KNEW this...and KNOW this...so earn your salary and come up with something!
 
bbailey423 said:
I actually do NOT like ownership/management telling Romo to throw the ball to a double covered Dez Bryant. He should instead go to his coaches and talk about freeing Dez up. There are plenty of top flight WRs all accross the NFL and the coaches find ways to get them the ball...and throwing into double coverage is NOT the answer! What a circus!!!!!!!
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It's the scheme that's why we have this issue and that's why they got romo more involved in the gameplan. It's flawed and they know it but won't change it. So the answer is to take chances that's what they want. Great huh
 
DOUBLE WING said:
Because when you single out Mo you make it sound like he is the reason we're not winning. There's a lot of blame to go around. Stephen really has no business going out and calling out a single player. Especially since he isn't the coach. I feel it would be much more productive to just point out the fact that EVERYONE needs to get better. It would be nice for some self-reflection, admitting that he and Jerry need to do a better job as well, but that's probably never going to happen.
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He did not say Mo was the reason we lost, those are your words you put some spin on this but saying a player needs to step up and play that is not trashing him or blaming him for any loss. Jerry has taken the heat he has admitted mistakes he had never blamed someone else but yes he and stephen as the top people in the organization will demand that those working and getting paid by the organization perform better.
 
rocyaice said:
So if its not stopping us from winning games than what does it matter if he has a show or not?
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It's just a public representation of what's wrong and dysfunctional behind the scenes of this organization. The locus of power and football leadership lies with the owner and his unaccomplished son, not with the coach.
 
Doomsday101 said:
It is the coaches job it is also the job of the orgainzation, why should they not expect more out of the players?
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They should, but why is coach's son doing the dirty work?

Whoops, I mean owner's soon. Caught myself just in time........
 
rocyaice said:
Well this team was 13-3 with those same bozo's in the press box not many years ago.....

And this is football. You don't build a guy up when he's down. That's how you end up with Barbie Carpenter. You let him know he's not performing well and Carter being the true football player he is will come out next week and play much better. I'm sure the coaches in film will show him where and what he did wrong.
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Like the coaches haven't noticed Claiborne struggling?? Pretty sure they didn't need daddy's boy to point that out to them.
 
Defensive line? We don't need any help on the defensive line.. our line is stacked remember? Just ask Monte.
 
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