Twitter: Stephen Jones says Big Mac and K. Moore Didn’t Agree “Philosophically”

[TheDuke]

I used force with quotes for a reason.
Yes MM agreed to keeping KM as OC when he took the job.
However, to say that wasn’t a strong preference by the Jones’ is intellectually dishonest.

Force is not the same as strong preference. And Mike McCarthy admitted he had the same preference, so the argument and assumption is not completely accurate.

 

[CyberB0b]

How in the world can a Head Coach work three full seasons with an OC he doesn’t agree with “philosophically”? It’s a miracle this team won 12 games and made the playoffs two years in a row with major philosophical differences.

Makes me think Kellen Moore was kept around despite what the head coach wanted. Or…something happened to change his mind. I tend to think it’s the first reason. But I don’t know for sure. “Dysfunction Junction”!

Kellen came with the job. Same with Garrett and Wade Phillips. You can't win in this organization being hamstrung by an alcoholic geriatric owner/GM.

 

[TheDuke]

I think McCarthy was on board in year 1 which was a wash with Dak's injury. Year 2 was productive and probably led to some discussions what he wanted to see. It didn't happen in year 3, so that's where we're now.

Finally a non emotional, objective, and reasonable post.

 

[fivetwos]

I agree with you.

The narrative of KM was forced on MM because JJ is another Napolean dictator and the Cowboys are completely dysfunctional and we're all doomed. That is not reasonable at all, but it's convenient and most fans like convenience instead of having to be reasonable, and objective and think without emotion, so that is what they stick to. Just like the misquote of "JJ said now we have two head coaches" It's convenient to throw out "oh he's an idiot, and we're a joke because we're the only team to have co-head coaches. Dysfunction!!!" It's too hard to be reasonable and objective and understand that what JJ was saying is that we have two people coaching each side of the ball who are head coach quality"

It's not convenient to be reasonable.

How about the option of just saying nothing, as do the other GMs in the league at this stage?

This is about being a celebrity for him.

I, for one, resent that….among a few other items.

 

[fredp22]

Its rodgers job to do what the coach saysnot try to show him up.

in what world. is that why MM got the boot instead of Rodgers? heck even Romo when he saw Garrett sucked used to audible more times than not.

 

[DallasEast]

How in the world can a Head Coach work three full seasons with an OC he doesn’t agree with “philosophically”? It’s a miracle this team won 12 games and made the playoffs two years in a row with major philosophical differences.

Makes me think Kellen Moore was kept around despite what the head coach wanted. Or…something happened to change his mind. I tend to think it’s the first reason. But I don’t know for sure. “Dysfunction Junction”!

Jerry and Stephen Jones are like automobile salespeople. A head coach, like Mike McCarthy, is their customer. Except the customer cannot buy the new car they want. And the customer ends up driving off their lot with a used model.

 

[Bobhaze]

Jerry and Stephen Jones are like automobile salespeople. A head coach, like Mike McCarthy, is their customer. Except the customer cannot buy the new car they want. And the customer ends up driving off their lot with a used model.

Good analogy. Jerry is both the car salesman, the dealership manager, and the business office guy who tries to sell you the extra warranty, undercarriage coating and the deluxe floor mats,

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

in what world. is that why MM got the boot instead of Rodgers? heck even Romo when he saw Garrett sucked used to audible more times than not.

Mm got the boot for the same reason km did. And hows it working for rodgers?
So...in your world....qbs do what they want. Sure buddy, ok.

Jeeze.

 

[Strol]

How in the world can a Head Coach work three full seasons with an OC he doesn’t agree with “philosophically”? It’s a miracle this team won 12 games and made the playoffs two years in a row with major philosophical differences.

Makes me think Kellen Moore was kept around despite what the head coach wanted. Or…something happened to change his mind. I tend to think it’s the first reason. But I don’t know for sure. “Dysfunction Junction”!

Parsons literally saved Dallas from the basement the last two seasons.

 

[Momanpr100]

Well, we can all speculate but the answers will be told after next season for if Herbert and the Chargers perform better with Moore as OC and if Dak plays like crap then Moore wasn't the problem but the common denominator in Dez, Garrett, Cooper, and now Moore being blamed: Stats Prescott.

This guy misses Garrett, hate has no boundaries with him lol

 

[MapleLeaf]

How does anyone talking about this move now actually add value and help progress the team forward?

Wouldn't it be better to say nothing of consequence or meaning like Jerry did, and then trail off and forget the question?

Airing dirty laundry just doesn't work for me.

 

[DandyDon52]

I think you are right.
Moore was Jerry's HC in waiting.
I think he was OC as a condition of Mac getting the job.
Power struggle, Mac won.
Jerry could not fire Mac after 2 12 win seasons.

all good points, but also consider this, mac took kellen as oc, knowing he could throw kellen under the bus
if fail in playoffs, and that is what it looks like he did.
Mac was all in on the last play of SF wc last year, and said it was the right call.
This year he was more involved, and he has to be involved in game plans, so it isnt like he is better than kellen.

Mac has sucked in game/time mgmt, and game plans , so he was part of the offensive problem, it was not just kellen, and you have
to throw dak in there as well, they all did poorly in playoffs, and now the jones boys dump kellen, keep the other two,
and act like it will be all better now.

only time will tell.

 

[john van brocklin]

all good points, but also consider this, mac took kellen as oc, knowing he could throw kellen under the bus
if fail in playoffs, and that is what it looks like he did.
Mac was all in on the last play of SF wc last year, and said it was the right call.
This year he was more involved, and he has to be involved in game plans, so it isnt like he is better than kellen.

Mac has sucked in game/time mgmt, and game plans , so he was part of the offensive problem, it was not just kellen, and you have
to throw dak in there as well, they all did poorly in playoffs, and now the jones boys dump kellen, keep the other two,
and act like it will be all better now.

only time will tell.

You are right, we can follow Moore with the Bolts and Mac with the Boys and see where the Quality is or is not.

 

[DandyDon52]

Then today Jerry is quoted as saying Dan Quinn will be like a “co-head coach”. Dysfunction Junction.

jerry has done this since parcells retired,
wade and JG were co HC, one was defense and game mgr, the other offense
JG and linehan
mac and kellen and dan

jerry wants to control it all and the hc has specific dutys, under jerry who is the real HC .
He has decided now to put mac in charge of offense and to call plays, so now if they fail again mac had no one to blame.

 

[Momanpr100]

I would bet there will be some that will not believe this, and MM was just saying this to appease the situation.

It's called politics

 

[DandyDon52]

You are right, we can follow Moore with the Bolts and Mac with the Boys and see where the Quality is or is not.

true, it is a good opportunity for kellen, better qb and org, FO etc.
It is hard to judge players or coaches with dallas , because jerry is so weird and always meddling.

 

[fredp22]

Mm got the boot for the same reason km did. And hows it working for rodgers?
So...in your world....qbs do what they want. Sure buddy, ok.

Jeeze.

your the one that seems a little confused. to quot u .. jeeze

 

[SultanOfSix]

Is Moore more of an Aristotle guy while McCarthy is more of a Plato guy?

 

[offlimits]

How in the world can a Head Coach work three full seasons with an OC he doesn’t agree with “philosophically”? It’s a miracle this team won 12 games and made the playoffs two years in a row with major philosophical differences.

Makes me think Kellen Moore was kept around despite what the head coach wanted. Or…something happened to change his mind. I tend to think it’s the first reason. But I don’t know for sure. “Dysfunction Junction”!

This speaks volumes about the dysfunction of this FO. So the head coach cannot fire his OC?

 

[offlimits]

Plenty of head coaches and coordinators dont mesh well

its not just a "omg dallas isnt functional thing"

coworkers see things differently

Silly. The HC takes the hit for wins and losses. He should be allowed to fire or hire his coordinators.