Stephen wants to be like Belichick and always be decent that way you're always relevant

[mahoneybill]

They have. But it still rings true that when your in a weaker conference its just easier to get more wins which leads to home field advantage in the playoffs.

Somewhat like San Francisco during their SB runs

 

[perrykemp]

Romo was a better QB than Brady basically all of last season. It's more than just the QB, the entire roster has to deliver.

Putting the QBs aside for I moment Id argue that the Cowboys offensive starters where, on the whole, dramatically superior to NE's.

Better offensive line. Better WR corp. Better running backs and running game.

TE is the only spot where I think you could say NE was vastly superior.

 

[Nation]

Putting the QBs aside for I moment Id argue that the Cowboys offensive starters where, on the whole, dramatically superior to NE's.

Better offensive line. Better WR corp. Better running backs and running game.

TE is the only spot where I think you could say NE was vastly superior.

I think on a sum-of-their-parts basis that New England's wide receivers give Dallas a run for their money. Not in pure talent but Edelman is incredibly underrated, Amendola does very unique things, and Lafell is a hell of a player with incredible YAC skills. If you call Dez and Gronk a wash, I say from there that New England's pass catchers are superior to Dallas' pass catchers.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Cassel is about the only example of someone really getting a return on that investment. Look at what the pats have spent overall on their QBs versus what they got for them. Packers as well. One out of 5 or so means diddly squat.

If you look at the Cowboys, when Jimmy was here, we drafted Troy Aikman (who, as we all know was the Franchise), then we drafted Steve Walsh. We traded Walsh to New Orleans for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. We have done this in the past as well. Craig Morton was traded to NY for a 1st round pick, which eventually ended up being Randy White. I think it can be a beneficial practice if managed correctly.

 

[Crown Royal]

I love romo and think he's very good, but you can't compare him to Brady. I don't think you can compare anyone to him, today. So its not a knock against romo

I can and just did. Romo was objectively a better QB than Brady last year. Nobody is saying that Romo has been better in his career, but everything about the Dallas Cowboys offense was better than the New England Pats offense. It was a better offense with a QB playing at a higher level.

 

[Crown Royal]

Putting the QBs aside for I moment Id argue that the Cowboys offensive starters where, on the whole, dramatically superior to NE's.

Better offensive line. Better WR corp. Better running backs and running game.

TE is the only spot where I think you could say NE was vastly superior.

I agree. As an entire unit I think the Cowboys offense was better than almost any in the league last year.

 

[birdwells1]

The Pats continually draft and develop QBs. They went 11-5 with Matt Cassell and traded him for a first rounder. The Packers also do the same thing.

If I'm not mistaken, the last "developed" qb that the Pats traded brought back a lower draft pick than the original pick.They got Mallet with the 74th pick of the 3rd round and traded him for a 7th round pick. They drafted Kevin O'connell in 2008 with the 94th pick and he was cut in 2009. When was the last time that GB developed a qb? Matt Flynn and Brian Brohm? Career backups at best.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I can and just did. Romo was objectively a better QB than Brady last year. Nobody is saying that Romo has been better in his career, but everything about the Dallas Cowboys offense was better than the New England Pats offense. It was a better offense with a QB playing at a higher level.

Our offense was better than New Englands last year. Like I mentioned before their offense and their entire team benefits from playing in a weak division. Which then gives them a home field advantage during the playoffs.

As for people saying that they have better receivers well you can make the case for that. But as an offense as a whole, no team was better than Dallas.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If I'm not mistaken, the last "developed" qb that the Pats traded brought back a lower draft pick than the original pick.They got Mallet with the 74th pick of the 3rd round and traded him for a 7th round pick. They drafted Kevin O'connell in 2008 with the 94th pick and he was cut in 2009. When was the last time that GB developed a qb? Matt Flynn and Brian Brohm? Career backups at best.

I think what you say is true. However, I also think that the practice of developing a QB is never going to be supported statistically, very well. Heck, taking QBs high in the draft and having success with them is not a very good bet statistically.

The Cowboys, IMO, should be the standard barer for this practice in the NFL. As an organization, I am not sure if there is another in the History of the NFL who has benefited more from the practice of developing QBs. If you look back through the years, we probably owe more to this practice then anybody else.

Roger Staubach, was not the Franchise when he was drafted. He was developed. Drafted in the 10th Rd in 1964, didn't play in the NFL till 1969, sat behind Craig Morton and went on to be a HOFer.

Danny White, another example of a guy who we brought in and developed. White played for 4 years in the NFL before he was a starter. He never won a Championship for us but he was a pretty darn good QB for us.

Tony Romo, undrafted player. He was developed for 3 years before he ever got a chance to play and now, he's one of the very best QBs in the NFL.

Not trying to single you out but just wanted to get the point across that as a Franchise, we are probably the biggest benefactors of QB development, down through our History.

 

[birdwells1]

I think what you say is true. However, I also think that the practice of developing a QB is never going to be supported statistically, very well. Heck, taking QBs high in the draft and having success with them is not a very good bet statistically.

The Cowboys, IMO, should be the standard barer for this practice in the NFL. As an organization, I am not sure if there is another in the History of the NFL who has benefited more from the practice of developing QBs. If you look back through the years, we probably owe more to this practice then anybody else.

Roger Staubach, was not the Franchise when he was drafted. He was developed. Drafted in the 10th Rd in 1964, didn't play in the NFL till 1969, sat behind Craig Morton and went on to be a HOFer.

Danny White, another example of a guy who we brought in and developed. White played for 4 years in the NFL before he was a starter. He never won a Championship for us but he was a pretty darn good QB for us.

Tony Romo, undrafted player. He was developed for 3 years before he ever got a chance to play and now, he's one of the very best QBs in the NFL.

Not trying to single you out but just wanted to get the point across that as a Franchise, we are probably the biggest benefactors of QB development, down through our History.

With Staubach he was a heisman trophy winner so he had some pedigree. With White yeah we did develope him but that was a different era. With Romo, like Brady, we got lucky and im glad we did.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

With Staubach he was a heisman trophy winner so he had some pedigree. With White yeah we did develope him but that was a different era. With Romo, like Brady, we got lucky and im glad we did.

He was a Hiesman trophy winner, that's true. Having said this, he didn't start when he returned from his Military commitment. He had things that needed to be corrected so he was developed under Coach Landry. I agree that the eras were different with Roger and White but I also believe that the practice of developing a QB is still a good one. With Tony, yes we did get lucky but you know what they say. Luck is the residue of design. If we don't bring Tony in, make the decision to develop him and be patient in the process, he's not the player for us he is today.

 

[birdwells1]

He was a Hiesman trophy winner, that's true. Having said this, he didn't start when he returned from his Military commitment. He had things that needed to be corrected so he was developed under Coach Landry. I agree that the eras were different with Roger and White but I also believe that the practice of developing a QB is still a good one. With Tony, yes we did get lucky but you know what they say. Luck is the residue of design. If we don't bring Tony in, make the decision to develop him and be patient in the process, he's not the player for us he is today.

I agree im at my daughter's school and I just read a sign that said "luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity" so you're right. But can you name an elite or great wb that's been developed?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree im at my daughter's school and I just read a sign that said "luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity" so you're right. But can you name an elite or great wb that's been developed?

I'm sorry, I don't think I understand the question. Are you simply asking me if I can name a great QB who has been developed? If so, then I would say Romo fits that. I would say Kurt Warner. I would say Mark Brunell, Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers, just off the top of my head, would all fit.

Sorry if this is not the question you are asking.

 

[birdwells1]

I'm sorry, I don't think I understand the question. Are you simply asking me if I can name a great QB who has been developed? If so, then I would say Romo fits that. I would say Kurt Warner. I would say Mark Brunell, Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers, just off the top of my head, would all fit.

Sorry if this is not the question you are asking.

I guess when I think of developed I think about a midrange draft pick that the organization groomed into an elite or great qb. In your examples, I'd say that Brady and Romo fit that description but I don't like to base my qb search on the exception I'd rather base it on the rule. Finding a udfa or 7th round draft pick is probably not the route most of the successful took.

I guess what my true feelings are is this, when you have an elite qb he is your window of opportunity so put everything into winning while he's at the top of his game because when he's gone it's over until you find another one.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I guess when I think of developed I think about a midrange draft pick that the organization groomed into an elite or great qb. In your examples, I'd say that Brady and Romo fit that description but I don't like to base my qb search on the exception I'd rather base it on the rule. Finding a udfa or 7th round draft pick is probably not the route most of the successful took.

I don't think that it necessarily means UFA or low round pick. I mean it could but I don't really see it as such. I see it as a guy you draft and work with to turn him into good starter.

However, if you base it on undrafted or Low round pick, then I think Brady (6th Rd) Tony (UFA), Mark Brunell (5th Rd) and Kurt Warner (UFA) would all fit.

 

[casmith07]

I think on a sum-of-their-parts basis that New England's wide receivers give Dallas a run for their money. Not in pure talent but Edelman is incredibly underrated, Amendola does very unique things, and Lafell is a hell of a player with incredible YAC skills. If you call Dez and Gronk a wash, I say from there that New England's pass catchers are superior to Dallas' pass catchers.

Without Dez Bryant, their receiving corps would be better than ours without a doubt.

Nobody on that team is in the same stratosphere as Dez Bryant.

 

[casmith07]

Our offense was better than New Englands last year. Like I mentioned before their offense and their entire team benefits from playing in a weak division. Which then gives them a home field advantage during the playoffs.

As for people saying that they have better receivers well you can make the case for that. But as an offense as a whole, no team was better than Dallas.

As I said to someone else, I think their corps as a whole is better, minus Dez Bryant. Dez Bryant makes everyone on the team better, especially his receiver buddies.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I think Stephen is going to be a pretty darn good GM.

I use to think he's too much his father's boy but I am optimistic he's learned from Dad's mistakes

 

[Nightman]

I think Stephen is going to be a pretty darn good GM.

I use to think he's too much his father's boy but I am optimistic he's learned from Dad's mistakes

Hopefully he learned from his successes as well

 

[Nation]

Without Dez Bryant, their receiving corps would be better than ours without a doubt.

Nobody on that team is in the same stratosphere as Dez Bryant.

I don't disagree with that, but I also think it is foolish to look at receivers and tight ends separately when comparing pass catching weapons. It is about a sum of the parts game and what Dez does for our team is incredible, but what Gronkowski does for the Patriots is also incredible. I think in terms of weapons that Dez challenges a defense more than any Patriots player does, but that the Patriots on a whole can beat you in more different ways than the Cowboys weapons can.