Stop the handwringing over the final offensive possession

[Everson24]

The odds are that if you are up by three with 70 seconds left, that you win about 95% of the time.

Seems like they did play the odds

Not in today's NFL

 

[Everson24]

Yeah, pretend that we can simply score at will.

We don't have the leaf and need a TD. You simply can't burn downs there. You have a good matchup, you have to attack.

We don't get a TD and nothing matters. We'd be stupid to assume we could simply score whenever.

I agree that we can't score at will, but knowing our defense, I think I'd rather die with our offense on the field rather than watch Rodgers rip our pathetic D for the win.

 

[AbeBeta]

I agree that we can't score at will, but knowing our defense, I think I'd rather die with our offense on the field rather than watch Rodgers rip our pathetic D for the win.

Man, you rock some great hindsight.

 

[TWOK11]

the offense has to know what they have on defense. Alot of inexperienced DB & poor safety play going against possibly best QB ever. You might feel its not fair for offense to be accountable for putting defense on field at certain situation but that's a reality in Dallas. I watched this game with 25 other people in room (fans of different teams) and every person in room knew what was going to happen the moment Dak ran TD in too early.

You CANNOT gameplan as if your defense will never get a stop. You simply can't win football games that way. It forces you to do things you'd never do in the normal flow of a game and screws with everything from playcalling to personnel.

You coach to win the game, not to limit yourself and run more time.

Now, had Dallas been down two or less? Tied? Sure, fall down and kick the FG. But down by 4 your best chance of winning the game is to score the TD when you can and force the other team to drive the field.

 

[TWOK11]

I agree that we can't score at will, but knowing our defense, I think I'd rather die with our offense on the field rather than watch Rodgers rip our pathetic D for the win.

That's all hindsight

 

[Beast_from_East]

We scored 31 points at home. Home teams that score 30+ win 96% of the time in NFL history.

The bottom line is our offense gave us a huge cushion and he defense blew it. Then they got the lead back and all they asked was to keep GB from going 75 yards in 80 seconds.

Those pinpointing the last offensive series as the culprit are misplacing blame. You do whatever you need to to score there. You DO NOT fall down at the one. That's moronic. You don't run on 2nd down if you think the best play is a pass.

The defense lost this game, period. Dak and company did PLENTY.

Those that fail to study history are doomed to repeat it.

In the Garrett era, the team has lost 10 games at home when scoring 30 or more points. That is more than double the next closest team on the list.

So no, scoring 30 points at home and losing is just par for the course under Garrett, you must not watch many Cowboy games.

 

[gmoney112]

I'm usually the voice of reason around here, and the first thing I said was "We gave them way too much time".

This is Aaron Rodgers and the Packers you're dealing with, not Kessler and the Colts.

I'm not so sure the Packers defense didn't blow the assignment on purpose to let us score (it would have been the smart play).

You work the clock as much as possible when you've got a Rodgers or Brady on the other sideline with a chance to win the game on their possession. That is something you can control.

The pass on 2nd and the score with that much time just really showed poor awareness overall. These are the times when just being smart is the difference between winning and losing.

 

[waving monkey]

the defense is two years into getting a full hand.
The DB's are 50% rookies are nearly.
Our best DB on the field is a rookie.
Rodgers is the best QB in the game today and he throw strikes that our rookies could get into place
we'll get better. Maybe it ain't our year.
There I gave you plenty of fodder.

 

[waving monkey]

Those that fail to study history are doomed to repeat it.

In the Garrett era, the team has lost 10 games at home when scoring 30 or more points. That is more than double the next closest team on the list.

So no, scoring 30 points at home and losing is just par for the course under Garrett, you must not watch many Cowboy games.

The defense has to come up to speed is the point

 

[Verdict]

We scored 31 points at home. Home teams that score 30+ win 96% of the time in NFL history.

The bottom line is our offense gave us a huge cushion and he defense blew it. Then they got the lead back and all they asked was to keep GB from going 75 yards in 80 seconds.

Those pinpointing the last offensive series as the culprit are misplacing blame. You do whatever you need to to score there. You DO NOT fall down at the one. That's moronic. You don't run on 2nd down if you think the best play is a pass.

The defense lost this game, period. Dak and company did PLENTY.

Sort of. Daks intercetion wasn't on the defense. It was on Williams, the body catcher.

 

[Verdict]

Stop pretending we threw the ball from the 1. We were on the 12 yard line with a minute left.

What is your point? It was an idiotic call. Idiotic

 

[Wood]

You CANNOT gameplan as if your defense will never get a stop. You simply can't win football games that way. It forces you to do things you'd never do in the normal flow of a game and screws with everything from playcalling to personnel.

You coach to win the game, not to limit yourself and run more time.

Now, had Dallas been down two or less? Tied? Sure, fall down and kick the FG. But down by 4 your best chance of winning the game is to score the TD when you can and force the other team to drive the field.

your theory sounds good against rest of league not for Rogers or Brady. You can't give either of them that much time. Being good coach is knowing when to adjust your thought process based on circumstances. Trying to score without consideration for clock management is fools gold.

 

[TWOK11]

your theory sounds good against rest of league not for Rogers or Brady. You can't give either of them that much time. Being good coach is knowing when to adjust your thought process based on circumstances. Trying to score without consideration for clock management is fools gold.

So you want your coach to actively try NOT to score the go ahead touchdown on a given play.

There isn't a single coach in the league who agrees with that.

 

[SSoup]

team needs to put up 40 pts to freakin win!!! 30 pts ain’t cutting it...

I mean, I guess.

Though one of Green Bay's TDs came when our defense wasn't even on the field, as the offensive decided to fling the ball around instead of grind (and they promptly turned our lead into a deficit).

And Green Bay's final TD was largely made possible by another dumb decision to pass the ball on offense on 2nd down.

Making up our minds to be super aggressive thinking we have to push down-field as quickly as possible to outscore the theoretical number our defense will give up? That's a formula for disaster.

Our defense relies on the offense protecting the ball and chewing the clock. Green Bay quite possibly scores two fewer TDs in this game but for our cutesy tendency to talk ourselves into attacking with the passing game in unnecessary (or outright stupid) situations. But I know, I know, Green Bay's defense gave us a look that we thought was vulnerable against those passes. There's always a reason to pass when you go looking for excuses to pass. It takes discipline to stick with the run.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

So you want your coach to actively try NOT to score the go ahead touchdown on a given play.

There isn't a single coach in the league who agrees with that.

If they had a defense like ours they would. We just keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.

 

[unionjack8]

Stupid idea.

Why so?

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

So you want your coach to actively try NOT to score the go ahead touchdown on a given play.

There isn't a single coach in the league who agrees with that.

Dude give it up, there is no way you can defend throwing that pass in that situation.

 

[robbieruff]

Troy Aikman disagrees. I’ll go with the HOF ex-QB on this one.

 

[Dodger12]

We scored 31 points at home. Home teams that score 30+ win 96% of the time in NFL history.

The bottom line is our offense gave us a huge cushion and he defense blew it. Then they got the lead back and all they asked was to keep GB from going 75 yards in 80 seconds.

Those pinpointing the last offensive series as the culprit are misplacing blame. You do whatever you need to to score there. You DO NOT fall down at the one. That's moronic. You don't run on 2nd down if you think the best play is a pass.

The defense lost this game, period. Dak and company did PLENTY.

Bull. The D played well enough in the first half to limit GB's offense. In any event, a HC has to know what he has and what the strengths of his team are. It's not like Rodgers hasn't beaten us before when we gave him too much time. A good HC will never give the ball back to Rodgers in that scenario, especially knowing the limitations on the D. And how do you think the D felt after Stone Hands Williams let the ball go though both hands and was returned for a TD? This was a complete team loss.

 

[Dodger12]

You CANNOT gameplan as if your defense will never get a stop. You simply can't win football games that way. It forces you to do things you'd never do in the normal flow of a game and screws with everything from playcalling to personnel.

You coach to win the game, not to limit yourself and run more time.

Now, had Dallas been down two or less? Tied? Sure, fall down and kick the FG. But down by 4 your best chance of winning the game is to score the TD when you can and force the other team to drive the field.

The issue is not scoring the TD at the end. You have to take the score. But the pass play was questionable on second down and it was compounded by the fact Dak snapped the ball with 13 seconds left on the play clock. That's what bad teams do. More specifically, that's what poorly coached teams do.

You have to coach according to your strengths. I mean, let me ask two questions. First, is anyone here surprised that Rodgers won the game on the final drive? And second, is anyone here surprised that our D couldn't stop the other team on the final drive? If you answered yes to either of these questions, then you just started watching football yesterday.