Strikeforce/M1 Global: Fedor vs Werdum

[Rampage]

NSIAP, but ..

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/M-1-UFC-Trying-to-Ruin-Fedors-Sponsorships-25329

smart move by Dana and the UFC. just another reason why they have all the leverage now when it comes to possibly bringing Fedor to the UFC.

 

[dropshot001]

smart move by Dana and the UFC. just another reason why they have all the leverage now when it comes to possibly bringing Fedor to the UFC.

i agree. that's bargaining power right there.

 

[DallasDomination]

When they started exchanging punches it took no more than 2 seconds for Werdum to go down. Fedor IMO was to eager to finish him off that he got caught with that Tringle and arm bar. Good move by Werdum but if these guys fight 10 times Fedor wins by KO 9 of them.

 

[BigWillie]

smart move by Dana and the UFC. just another reason why they have all the leverage now when it comes to possibly bringing Fedor to the UFC.

You really think by ticking off a group of Russians that they will finally cave in?

If anything, this is only likely to push Fedor even farther away from the UFC, than it is being a 'shrewd' business move on Dana's part.

 

[Hostile]

I just saw this fight on youtube.

[youtube]R8eLBXqoB90[/youtube]

It reminds me a little of the first Lesnar - Mir fight. In other words, it looks to me like Werdum got very lucky and in a rematch he will get seriously hurt just like Mir did.

JMO. Those who know this game better can tell me I am wrong, but I don't think he could do that again.

 

[dropshot001]

I just saw this fight on youtube.

[youtube]R8eLBXqoB90[/youtube]

It reminds me a little of the first Lesnar - Mir fight. In other words, it looks to me like Werdum got very lucky and in a rematch he will get seriously hurt just like Mir did.

JMO. Those who know this game better can tell me I am wrong, but I don't think he could do that again.

i don't think that fedor will fall into the triangle again. he had one slip and got caught, i doubt that it will happen again.

 

[zrinkill]

It does not matter ...... A healthy Lesnar can beat anyone.

 

[BigWillie]

I just saw this fight on youtube.

[youtube]R8eLBXqoB90[/youtube]

It reminds me a little of the first Lesnar - Mir fight. In other words, it looks to me like Werdum got very lucky and in a rematch he will get seriously hurt just like Mir did.

JMO. Those who know this game better can tell me I am wrong, but I don't think he could do that again.

Go look up the original Fedor-Nog fight on Youtube. You get an idea of how strong Fedor is on the ground.

Fedor went into that fight with everyone believing the minute it went to the ground that Nog would submit Fedor in short order. Fedor and Nog went to the ground in a hurry, and Fedor decided to basically lay inside Big Nog's guard for that entire fight while he unleashed a fury of GnP on Nog.

But the beauty of BJJ is it only takes a mistake, a simple mistake to end a fight. Fedor got lazy, and was caught as a result. It happens, but over a course of his career it happened essentially none to that man.

But I decided to look up the Fedor fights myself. Man I miss PRIDE ..

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[youtube]XLGdATRHmIg[/youtube]

 

[Rampage]

You really think by ticking off a group of Russians that they will finally cave in?

If anything, this is only likely to push Fedor even farther away from the UFC, than it is being a 'shrewd' business move on Dana's part.

those russians just lost money. if he goes to UFC he will get paid more than anywhere else and will get more sponsors than anywhere else including Tapout. Dana is basically saying come to the UFC and get paid or struggle to get paid in thjese little **** orgs like Dream and Strikefarce.

 

[BigWillie]

those russians just lost money. if he goes to UFC he will get paid more than anywhere else and will get more sponsors than anywhere else including Tapout. Dana is basically saying come to the UFC and get paid or struggle to get paid in thjese little **** orgs like Dream and Strikefarce.

No, Dana is basically being a baby, as always. As the article states, he did the same thing to Dan Henderson after leaving the UFC, which is the reason Clinch Gear is banned by the UFC.

Ultimately, Dana can make these threats. But what happens when a sponsor finally reaches its end with Dana and leaves? Say Tapout had left - Dana, in his attempt to screw over Fedor, scored over a countless amount of fighters in the UFC. Some of those fighters, sponsored by Tapout, make only a few grand per fight. And now they would lose precious sponsorship money.

Yes, I'm sure you will say, "they can get another sponsor". Problem is, they will get sponsored for less. Less competition = less money. Even worse when these fighters are paying a portion of their sponsorship money to the UFC, just so these companies can be on their chests.

Even more, Dana is trying to stick it to Fedor for an ego boost. But the reality is, Vadim, and especially Fedor, will never have the need to worry about money in their lifetimes. Taking sponsorship money from them is the equivalent of yelling at a deaf dog to attempt to teach him a lesson.

This is not a business move, but a move made to boost the ego of Dana just as he has attempted to do for nearly a decade. And it's even more of a reason why these fighters need a union to combat some of the stupid junk the UFC gets away with.

 

[Rampage]

No, Dana is basically being a baby, as always. As the article states, he did the same thing to Dan Henderson after leaving the UFC, which is the reason Clinch Gear is banned by the UFC.

Ultimately, Dana can make these threats. But what happens when a sponsor finally reaches its end with Dana and leaves? Say Tapout had left - Dana, in his attempt to screw over Fedor, scored over a countless amount of fighters in the UFC. Some of those fighters, sponsored by Tapout, make only a few grand per fight. And now they would lose precious sponsorship money.

Yes, I'm sure you will say, "they can get another sponsor". Problem is, they will get sponsored for less. Less competition = less money. Even worse when these fighters are paying a portion of their sponsorship money to the UFC, just so these companies can be on their chests.

Even more, Dana is trying to stick it to Fedor for an ego boost. But the reality is, Vadim, and especially Fedor, will never have the need to worry about money in their lifetimes. Taking sponsorship money from them is the equivalent of yelling at a deaf dog to attempt to teach him a lesson.

This is not a business move, but a move made to boost the ego of Dana just as he has attempted to do for nearly a decade. And it's even more of a reason why these fighters need a union to combat some of the stupid junk the UFC gets away with.

no they wouldn't cause Dana knew they would bow down. if it wasn't for the UFC Tapout clothing wouldn't be ****. Fedor needs to ditch his commy Russian management and go to the UFC.

 

[Hostile]

I do not understand why everyone is so dedicated to the fight promotions. Pride is better. UFC is better. Strikeforce is better. I don't care which one was or is better.

That was a good fight. I gained a lot of respect for Noguera whom I have only seen fight one time and lost badly to Mir.

Fedor needed some of that and he kills Werdum. I think he thought he hurt him and it was going to be over. He dove in and got caught.

 

[Hoofbite]

I do not understand why everyone is so dedicated to the fight promotions. Pride is better. UFC is better. Strikeforce is better. I don't care which one was or is better.

That was a good fight. I gained a lot of respect for Noguera whom I have only seen fight one time and lost badly to Mir.

Fedor needed some of that and he kills Werdum. I think he thought he hurt him and it was going to be over. He dove in and got caught.

I've wondered that as well.

 

[Hostile]

I've wondered that as well.

Good, because I hate being all alone in the dark.

 

[Rampage]

i'll explain after I eat dinner

 

[BigWillie]

no they wouldn't cause Dana knew they would bow down. if it wasn't for the UFC Tapout clothing wouldn't be ****. Fedor needs to ditch his commy Russian management and go to the UFC.

Wait, what? Without the UFC then Tapout would not be ****? You do know that Tapout was around years before Dana even had visions of purchasing the UFC, correct?

You also know that Tapout was made due in large part to the independent scene in Cali where Mask, Skrape and Punk... made incredible efforts to brand and market smaller fighters. When these guys were making absolutely nothing on the indy scene, Tapout were giving these guys clothes and throwing some cash in their pockets.

Tapout is ENTIRELY a self-made company, and one of the only loyal companies that Dana and the UFC had from the very beginning when no one else wanted anything to do with the company or more importantly, with these fighters.

Even more, saying that Dana knew Tapout would back down goes without saying. Tapout is more loyal to its fighters than any company out there. If you have read the stories about how those guys go out of their way for fighters, then you know this is the case. Money wise, it would have little to no effect on them as a company. Tapout is a worldwide company and arguably the biggest and most well-known MMA apparel company in the world. But the effect it would have put on their fighters wallets is likely something they would not do.

And for Dana to even put a loyal company like Tapout in that position shows what an egotistical POS he really can be at times.

In the end, it does nothing to Fedor and Vadim. Those guys are financially stable for the rest of their life. The move was simply about ego - nothing more, nothing less.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I just saw this fight on youtube.

[youtube]R8eLBXqoB90[/youtube]

It reminds me a little of the first Lesnar - Mir fight. In other words, it looks to me like Werdum got very lucky and in a rematch he will get seriously hurt just like Mir did.

JMO. Those who know this game better can tell me I am wrong, but I don't think he could do that again.

I dont think he even connected, looked like Fedor get suckered into it

This guys strength is BJJ and he wanted that fight on the ground.

 

[Rampage]

I dont think he even connected, looked like Fedor get suckered into it

This guys strength is BJJ and he wanted that fight on the ground.

he didn't really connect, Fedor knocked him off balance more so than knocked him down.

 

[Rampage]

Wait, what? Without the UFC then Tapout would not be ****? You do know that Tapout was around years before Dana even had visions of purchasing the UFC, correct?

You also know that Tapout was made due in large part to the independent scene in Cali where Mask, Skrape and Punk... made incredible efforts to brand and market smaller fighters. When these guys were making absolutely nothing on the indy scene, Tapout were giving these guys clothes and throwing some cash in their pockets.

Tapout is ENTIRELY a self-made company, and one of the only loyal companies that Dana and the UFC had from the very beginning when no one else wanted anything to do with the company or more importantly, with these fighters.

Even more, saying that Dana knew Tapout would back down goes without saying. Tapout is more loyal to its fighters than any company out there. If you have read the stories about how those guys go out of their way for fighters, then you know this is the case. Money wise, it would have little to no effect on them as a company. Tapout is a worldwide company and arguably the biggest and most well-known MMA apparel company in the world. But the effect it would have put on their fighters wallets is likely something they would not do.

And for Dana to even put a loyal company like Tapout in that position shows what an egotistical POS he really can be at times.

In the end, it does nothing to Fedor and Vadim. Those guys are financially stable for the rest of their life. The move was simply about ego - nothing more, nothing less.

cool story, bro. fact is Tapout didn't start making real money till the UFC exploded.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

he didn't really connect, Fedor knocked him off balance more so than knocked him down.

Yea I think Fedor got him w/ a little patter in the first part of that but nothing else

Watching live I thought he slipped for sure but know I think he knew what he was doing