Sturm talks interior line and draft

[Stash]

It was dumb to go into the season depending on players that stayed injured and was over the hill. If Bass and Crawford would have stayed healthy, there is a good chance that they would have proven to be nothing more than jags. There were plenty of people that figured the train wreck was coming, even some mediots.

Don't forget the 'fact' that Spencer - even if he WAS healthy - would have dominated in the switch to the 4-3 defense, just like Demarcus Ware did...



They're all assumed to be Pro Bowlers, right up until they're not.

 

[Idgit]

In all seriousness, I used to wonder what type of mindset that it takes to defend this mess. I thought only a Jones could be wrong on football issues so much of the time. You clearly prove that is wrong unless your last name is Jones.

Jobber's right far more often than you have been, jnday. It's not even actually close.

The record's there if you care to ever look at it honestly. Not that you would.

 

[Idgit]

Don't forget the 'fact' that Spencer - even if he WAS healthy - would have dominated in the switch to the 4-3 defense, just like Demarcus Ware did...



They're all assumed to be Pro Bowlers, right up until they're not.

You guys really need to stick to debating arguments that were actually made at the time. We aren't responsible for your imaginary debates. Only for the ones we actually made.

 

[Stash]

You guys really need to stick to debating arguments that were actually made at the time. We aren't responsible for your imaginary debates. Only for the ones we actually made.

Looks like there are adjusted 'interpretations' of what was said, and then there's the truth. People can choose to believe what they want after the fact.

 

[jnday]

Jobber's right far more often than you have been, jnday. It's not even actually close.

The record's there if you care to ever look at it honestly. Not that you would.

Yeah, he could have that record of being right if the wins were there. You guys hang out on here and give the team every benefit of the doubt when the won/lose record proves you wrong time and time again. I was waiting for you to swoop in for the save. Good job.

 

[Idgit]

Yeah, he could have that record of being right if the wins were there. You guys hang out on here and give the team every benefit of the doubt when the won/lose record proves you wrong time and time again. I was waiting for you to swoop in for the save. Good job.

Thanks. He's still right on this topic, and you're still wrong.

And I've been saying for years now that the issue in Dallas is with the pass defense. It still is. Explain to me at some point how that's excusing anything. Or, just ignore it like you guys always do.

 

[Idgit]

Looks like there are adjusted 'interpretations' of what was said, and then there's the truth. People can choose to believe what they want after the fact.

Exactly.

 

[Beast_from_East]

whoever made the decision that Costa could start for us should have been run out of town tar and feathered. There were other players available- the decision to choose him is what was unforgivable- because as horrible as he started out that should have been obvious.

Ironically, the same folks that thought Costa was an NFL caliber starter happen to be the same folks that think Garrett is a good head coach.

 

[burmafrd]

Thanks. He's still right on this topic, and you're still wrong.

And I've been saying for years now that the issue in Dallas is with the pass defense. It still is. Explain to me at some point how that's excusing anything. Or, just ignore it like you guys always do.

you could sell tickets to the world you live in- they must sing Kumbaya and hold hands every morning and the sun is always shining and never too hot or too cold. Not that it has any relation to reality.

 

[Stash]

Ironically, the same folks that thought Costa was an NFL caliber starter happen to be the same folks that think Garrett is a good head coach.

And that THIS will finally be our year, just like they've been predicting the last 10 would be...

 

[jobberone]

No, my crystal ball said the DL was aging and in rapid decline with no quality depth to replace the starters. It said the time to act was now. I can't help it if you didn't realize this and that you seem a little upset by it. It didn't take a fortune teller to see that writing on the wall.

I'm not upset at all. As I said we can all see how old the players were and the problems they had including contractual problems yada. Only you and the posse are spinning this as if other Cowboys' fans didn't know all this remaining totally oblivious until finally blindsided by 'THE TRUTH' as only Risen Star can proclaim. The entire point is you aren't alone in reading the tea leaves. We just see reasons as to why it went the way it did other than no one but you could see a potential problem, the sky is falling, Jerry is a moron yada yada yada.

 

[jobberone]

Thanks for filling me in.

They started Costa because this team is one of the worst run in the entire league. They lack talent evaluators at the top, so a stiff like Costa can sneak his way into the starting lineup. He can even get encouraging quotes about his future from the GM, since the GM has no idea what he's doing or what a good player looks like.

Once we got him off the field and replaced him with a legitimate NFL center the line improved immensely. The guy can't play. It's really that simple.

This is where you lose the reasonable fans. It's your agenda. You spin it constantly until all people hear is noise or they are mildly amused and/or mildly annoyed with it.

It's not one of the worst run clubs in the NFL. We've won three SBs in the last 22 years. Not many teams can say that. And yes we all know the team is .500 in the last 15+ or whatever it is.

Listen to this. .500 is average. It means we are average. That's not the worst team in the league. Now if you say we haven't reached the playoffs and made a splash in two decades then I'm with you. If you say that is unacceptable then I'm with you. If you say we can't seem to crawl out of a hole we created ourselves then I'm with you. It's the constant hyperbole and negativity that is the problem. Average teams do things about equally well as poorly. They have bright spots and sore spots.

If you wish to make your living as you do then ok. But expect to get called on the hyperbole and negativity on occasion. Have a good night. We're still brothers and well, brothers fight.

 

[jnday]

Thanks. He's still right on this topic, and you're still wrong.

And I've been saying for years now that the issue in Dallas is with the pass defense. It still is. Explain to me at some point how that's excusing anything. Or, just ignore it like you guys always do.

You want some more CBs? That's about right.

 

[RS12]

Ironically, the same folks that thought Costa was an NFL caliber starter happen to be the same folks that think Garrett is a good head coach.

That left a mark.

 

[jobberone]

we could have kept Gurode for one-but he was expensive. Now having a better OL would have been worth something-question is how much more. Now there were a couple others that time has shown would have been better then Costa so he was NOT the only option.

Well I wasn't onboard re: Gurode and I don't remember people even thinking he'd be cut. It might not have even occurred for football reasons although I'm not saying that. My guess is he was slipping and/or saying and/or doing the wrong things and they cut him loose; likely before they wanted to. That caught people by surprise. Now maybe you are right and they thought Costa was ready to at least row the boat a bit. But Gurode went on to being...oh yeah...nada. Even if he did hang on a while longer. So that part they got right. So at worse they thought Costa was a tad better than he was which was a marginal starter at best and at worst a marginal backup.

The fact we went after Fred tells you all you could want to know about Costa who is gone even though we don't have a backup of note on hand.

You can't make every decision be the right one in this life esp at football at that level. You look at your options and go with the best you have.

Again the problem is the best we have (overall) is not good enough to not be average.

 

[jobberone]

That left a mark.

No it didn't because it's not the truth. However, for some if you say it loud enough long enough it is to be believed......right??

 

[jobberone]

Looks like there are adjusted 'interpretations' of what was said, and then there's the truth. People can choose to believe what they want after the fact.

Look....I can do emoticons, too.

 

[Stash]

Look....I can do emoticons, too.

Great. Have at it, they're fun for everyone!

 

[burmafrd]

Well I wasn't onboard re: Gurode and I don't remember people even thinking he'd be cut. It might not have even occurred for football reasons although I'm not saying that. My guess is he was slipping and/or saying and/or doing the wrong things and they cut him loose; likely before they wanted to. That caught people by surprise. Now maybe you are right and they thought Costa was ready to at least row the boat a bit. But Gurode went on to being...oh year...nada. Even if he did hang on a while longer. So that part they got right. So at worse they thought Costa was a tad better than he was which was a marginal starter at best and at worst a marginal backup.

The fact we went after Fred tells you all you could want to know about Costa who is gone even though we don't have a backup of note on hand.

You can't make every decision be the right one in this life esp at football at that level. You look at your options and go with the best you have.

Again the problem is the best we have (overall) is not good enough to not be average.

"marginal starter at best"-you have a convenient memory- like forgetting just how horrendous Costa was. No one else was ever fooled and embarrassed like he was in that first Skins game.

 

[burmafrd]

This is where you lose the reasonable fans. It's your agenda. You spin it constantly until all people hear is noise or they are mildly amused and/or mildly annoyed with it.

It's not one of the worst run clubs in the NFL. We've won three SBs in the last 22 years. Not many teams can say that. And yes we all know the team is .500 in the last 15+ or whatever it is.

Listen to this. .500 is average. It means we are average. That's not the worst team in the league. Now if you say we haven't reached the playoffs and made a splash in two decades then I'm with you. If you say that is unacceptable then I'm with you. If you say we can't seem to crawl out of a hole we created ourselves then I'm with you. It's the constant hyperbole and negativity that is the problem. Average teams do things about equally well as poorly. They have bright spots and sore spots.

If you wish to make your living as you do then ok. But expect to get called on the hyperbole and negativity on occasion. Have a good night. We're still brothers and well, brothers fight.

you still refuse to admit just how bad Costa was. And that from all accounts Jerruh made that call.