Talking Cowboys video breakdown

[SackMaster]

So just be ignorant and ignore everything thats said in the video …

So let me get this straight.

You are willing to completely believe in what Isiah Stanback, who's NFL career consists of 6 receptions on 11 targets, says without question.

But then choose to completely ignore what HOF players, the Head Coach AND the Game Announcers all pointed out that the receiver ran the wrong route.

If that's the hill you want to die on, go right ahead.

And just for the record, the first INT is on Dak even if Schultz didn't run the clear out route correctly. There were just too many defenders (4 IIRC) and just two receivers that were just 3-ish yards appart. I mean, I mentioned it in the game day thread on the fact that our receivers had no spacing on that play, yet Dak pulled the trigger anyways.

But on the second INT, if CeeDee runs the route correctly, it's at minimum a contested ball.

Fans complain that Dak doesn't throw with anticipation, but then when he does and the receiver CLEARLY runs the incorrect route, again as pointed out by HOFers, the HC and announcers, somehow that is STILL Dak's fault.

Ah, to be a "fan".

 

[WillieBeamen]

So let me get this straight.

You are willing to completely believe in what Isiah Stanback, who's NFL career consists of 6 receptions on 11 targets, says without question.

But then choose to completely ignore what HOF players, the Head Coach AND the Game Announcers all pointed out that the receiver ran the wrong route.

If that's the hill you want to die on, go right ahead.

And just for the record, the first INT is on Dak even if Schultz didn't run the clear out route correctly. There were just too many defenders (4 IIRC) and just two receivers that were just 3-ish yards appart. I mean, I mentioned it in the game day thread on the fact that our receivers had no spacing on that play, yet Dak pulled the trigger anyways.

But on the second INT, if CeeDee runs the route correctly, it's at minimum a contested ball.

Fans complain that Dak doesn't throw with anticipation, but then when he does and the receiver CLEARLY runs the incorrect route, again as pointed out by HOFers, the HC and announcers, somehow that is STILL Dak's fault.

Ah, to be a "fan".

Read my posts. Ive explained my stance several times

 

[SackMaster]

Read my posts. Ive explained my stance several times

And EVERY SINGLE ONE was wrong.

But hey, stay committed. That's why we like you.

 

[WillieBeamen]

And EVERY SINGLE ONE was wrong.

But hey, stay committed. That's why we like you.

Glad youre a fan and following closely


Keep watching

 

[jterrell]

Watching to yesterdays Talking Cowboys Show, Isaiah Stanback broke down Daks interception to CeeDee. He says the Cowboy offense has become predictable and teams know which routes CeeDee is running which has resulted in two interception two weeks in a row on the same play. This is causing team to show one look pre-snap but jumping into another look once the ball is snapped. This is confusing Dak and causing him to throw the ball right into the defense the last two weeks. He clear states Dak is at fault. You can start watching at 24:20 mark here Talkin' Cowboys: Butterfly Effect (dallascowboys.com)

He can say whatever he wantd but he is wrong.
This was explained clearly by Irvin.
In that look a WR has to come across flat and he ran a post.
Further they had the EXACT same play later and CeeDee ran it correctly for completion.

But he is correct that the offense is predictable because these concepts don't change.

The first INT was an awful play call but Dak was trying to make something happen out of nothing and just did too much.
The 2nd was just a really bad route by CeeDee.

 

[Ken]

He can say whatever he wantd but he is wrong.
This was explained clearly by Irvin.
In that look a WR has to come across flat and he ran a post.
Further they had the EXACT same play later and CeeDee ran it correctly for completion.

But he is correct that the offense is predictable because these concepts don't change.

The first INT was an awful play call but Dak was trying to make something happen out of nothing and just did too much.
The 2nd was just a really bad route by CeeDee.

Kurt Warner does an exopse' on this game. Lot of Dak miscues...the ints weren't his fault per se.

You can clearly see on this play in question that Ceedee was going to run the in but then changed his mind when the safety jump it. He was hoping Dak wouldn't throw it...he can't do that.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

So let me get this straight.

You are willing to completely believe in what Isiah Stanback, who's NFL career consists of 6 receptions on 11 targets, says without question.

But then choose to completely ignore what HOF players, the Head Coach AND the Game Announcers all pointed out that the receiver ran the wrong route.

If that's the hill you want to die on, go right ahead.

And just for the record, the first INT is on Dak even if Schultz didn't run the clear out route correctly. There were just too many defenders (4 IIRC) and just two receivers that were just 3-ish yards appart. I mean, I mentioned it in the game day thread on the fact that our receivers had no spacing on that play, yet Dak pulled the trigger anyways.

But on the second INT, if CeeDee runs the route correctly, it's at minimum a contested ball.

Fans complain that Dak doesn't throw with anticipation, but then when he does and the receiver CLEARLY runs the incorrect route, again as pointed out by HOFers, the HC and announcers, somehow that is STILL Dak's fault.

Ah, to be a "fan".

By that kind of logic...Kellen Moore probably shouldn't be our OC.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

He can say whatever he wantd but he is wrong.
This was explained clearly by Irvin.
In that look a WR has to come across flat and he ran a post.
Further they had the EXACT same play later and CeeDee ran it correctly for completion.

But he is correct that the offense is predictable because these concepts don't change.

The first INT was an awful play call but Dak was trying to make something happen out of nothing and just did too much.
The 2nd was just a really bad route by CeeDee.

I think sometimes a receiver MIGHT break a route, and the QB has ot see what the WR sees. I don;'t know this is the case here...but maybe CD saw the defenders reading daks eyes ....and saw an open field...and hoped dak would see it?


I dunno...I'm no exert like ya'll.

 

[starfan1]

By that kind of logic...Kellen Moore probably shouldn't be our OC.

i wouldn’t lose sleep if he was elsewhere

 

[starfan1]

I think sometimes a receiver MIGHT break a route, and the QB has ot see what the WR sees. I don;'t know this is the case here...but maybe CD saw the defenders reading daks eyes ....and saw an open field...and hoped dak would see it?


I dunno...I'm no exert like ya'll.

I’m just shocked there’s no less than 6 threads on front page about this crap on the front page when the more significant issue was 1. Kellen Moore again going all dumbarse and airing it out after averaging over 6 yards a carry
And second and most important our run defense is still leaking oil like it has for the last 10 years

on second thought I’m not shocked. This place is like the ranch on steroids

 

[RonnieT24]

It was single high pre-snap, post snap they switched to double high safety. Based on that rule Cee-Dee was right and turned up field behind the safety, Dak was wrong thinking CD would cross the face of the defender because he read single high pre-snap.

Greg Olsen was fooled too

Sorry dude but this is incorrect because #20 retreated about 10 yards at the snap and he was already 10 yards off the ball to begin with. He is at the 48 when the ball is snapped and makes his break on the ball from the 39. There was no way CD was going to get behind him if the ball was thrown long. The deep route would have just drifted right into where #20 was already retreating to and where the free safety who was outside the numbers came from. The only way to beat that would have been to cut it across because #20 had leverage over the top. Just because he saw the ball and broke on it people are acting like he never moved.. which is plainly inaccurate. He dropped 10 yards. And unless he warped space and time he had to backpedal to do it.

 

[Dak_Attack_09]

So just be ignorant and ignore everything thats said in the video …

It still doesn’t change the fact that the defense gave up 200 rushing yards and a 14 point lead.

 

[DalFan75]

I’m just shocked there’s no less than 6 threads on front page about this crap on the front page when the more significant issue was 1. Kellen Moore again going all dumbarse and airing it out after averaging over 6 yards a carry
And second and most important our run defense is still leaking oil like it has for the last 10 years

on second thought I’m not shocked. This place is like the ranch on steroids

What's shocking is people still not understanding basic football.

YOUR DEFENSE GOT SHREDDED BY A BAD OFFENSIVE TEAM.

YOUR DEFENSE GAVE UP 31 PTS TO A BAD OFFENSIVE TEAM.

YOUR DEFENSE GAVE UP 200+ RUSHING YARDS TO A BAD OFFENSIVE TEAM.

YOUR DEFENSE HAD A TWO TD LEAD IN THE FORTH QUARTER AND BLEW IT.

THE OFFENSE SCORED 28 POINTS AGAINST A TEAM AVERAGING 17.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Ummm.. maybe because nearly all routes in the modern NFL are supposed to be adjusted based on coverage?

Just a SWAG ... The Cowboys literally have a play in their playbook called "Y-option" which is the play Witten made famous. On that play the TE literally has about a dozen routes he can run based on the coverage he sees.

Also Dak made a couple of poor plays.. however overall he did not play poorly.. You know.. the whole 3 TD passes and 28 points and a 14 point lead entering the 4th quarter with an allegedly good defense thing?

Those 2 INTs were HUGE point swings and resulted in 14 GB points. He's playing for us right?

In the NFL, all it takes to lose is a couple of poor plays at the wrong time. But, lets forget about the poor plays in the first half. How about the plays he didn't make with the game on the line? 3 and 4 in the final 2 minutes and he can't get it done. Another chance in OT........can't drive the team down the field. He's just not a winner. He's a stat compiler just like his predecessor and shrinks in the big moments. Its not even debatable at this point.

 

[Brooksey]

Sorry dude but this is incorrect because #20 retreated about 10 yards at the snap and he was already 10 yards off the ball to begin with. He is at the 48 when the ball is snapped and makes his break on the ball from the 39. There was no way CD was going to get behind him if the ball was thrown long. The deep route would have just drifted right into where #20 was already retreating to and where the free safety who was outside the numbers came from. The only way to beat that would have been to cut it across because #20 had leverage over the top. Just because he saw the ball and broke on it people are acting like he never moved.. which is plainly inaccurate. He dropped 10 yards. And unless he warped space and time he had to backpedal to do it.

Pre-snap it's a single high safety look that turns out to be a two high look, so you can't anticipate the WR crossing the safe face. Why? Watch Check CD lamb when he's at the 45 yard line, he looks up he's see's two safeties not one in the middle, he's sees a two high look. He's not going to cross the face.

If Dak reads it right when safety off the left hash turns his hips in, Noah Brown is wide open for a TD down the sidelines. Dak missed it two different ways.

Check Kurt Warner's video at the 15:50 mark

 

[DalFan75]

Those 2 INTs were HUGE point swings and resulted in 14 GB points. He's playing for us right?

In the NFL, all it takes to lose is a couple of poor plays at the wrong time. But, lets forget about the poor plays in the first half. How about the plays he didn't make with the game on the line? 3 and 4 in the final 2 minutes and he can't get it done. Another chance in OT........can't drive the team down the field. He's just not a winner. He's a stat compiler just like his predecessor and shrinks in the big moments. Its not even debatable at this point.

DEFENSE COULDNT STOP THE OTHER TEAM WITH A TWO TD LEAD

True story bro, we once had a QB throw 5 picks in a game on the road and we WON the game. Do you know why? Because the defense did its job that night.

This defense didn't do its job Sunday, period.

 

[Cas2800]

Mike Irvin and Greg Olson said it was on CeeDee and Schultz.

They are talking about the first interception in the endzone. We are talking about the second interception.

 

[Kingofholland]

1st one on Dak for sure. Terrible decision.

2nd was on Ceedee and would have been a nice play had he ran the correct route.

I'm in this camp, certainly anytime a QB throws an INT it's instantly assumed they made a bad decision which isn't always the case.

 

[xwalker]

They are talking about the first interception in the endzone. We are talking about the second interception.

No, Irvin and Olson both said the mid field INT was the fault of CeeDee.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

I say hes not.,. Great, we all have an opinion for the last 72 hours..

who cares,

THE defense lost that game 100% , end of story, case closed , time for MN

MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

O was just as responsible handing them 14 pts. and of course stinking it up in money time.