Tavon Austin is Ridiculous

[xwalker]

Nothing like a cherry-picked YouTube highlight reel to get some fans in a frothing tizzy.

If Tavon Austin was really all that and a bag of chips, why the heck did the Rams let him go for a flippin’ 6th-rd pick, lol??!?

Lucky Switzer 2.0

Can you read?

What did I say at the top of the post?

 

[xwalker]

His relatively high rate of fumbles as a receiver, kr, pr would argue with this. So would the lack of production at receiver.

On Offense he does not have a fumble problem.

In his 5 year career he has:
On Runs: 1 fumble
On Receptions: 4 fumbles
On Punt Returns: 17 fumbles

His fumble rate on offense for his career is better than:
Zeke 2016
Dez Career
Jay Ajayi 2017

Fumble Percentage On Offense:
1.32% Tavon Austin Career
1.41% Zeke 2016
0.96% Zeke Career
2.50% Jay Ajayi 2017
1.22% Jay Ajayi Career
1.81% David Johnson Career
1.57% Tiki Barber Career
2.59% Tiki Barber 2003
1.51% Dez Career

 

[Risen Star]

Austin was an 8th overall pick (2013) and had his best season in 2016. Even if McVay simply decided not to use him as much as the previous coach, or that he doesn’t fit their plans going forward, it doesn’t explain why the Rams’ FO let him go for a 6th-rd pick.

Something’s fishy here.

You will bow down at the explosive awesomeness of Tavon Austin and you will do this now.

 

[Dre11]

lol. Emo much? Of course he gave his opinion, he shipped his arse out. I can’t think of a more definitive way to say “no” to a player short of shooting them, can you? And comparing apples to oranges won’t make that orange an apple, ever. Foles was mishandled by 2 since proven jackasses. McVay is a very innovative offensive mind who couldn’t find a place for Austin. Now he is with Garrett who is to innovation what a square is to a circle. Good luck...

So now Foles was mishandled?... Lol the same jackass had Austin too in LA...lol
McVay had him one year, and his production didn’t match his contract even after he restructured, that doesn’t mean he doesnt have talent . Don’t be ignorant and discount the change of scenery and fresh start.

 

[Dre11]

Those are trick plays. Gadget plays are plays only certain players can perform. Like Lucky and Dwayne harris always ran the jet sweep.

Gadget and trick plays are pretty much the same, Tavon will not be running only Jet sweeps in my opinion, screens are pretty basic football plays, I see Tavon carrying the ball as well, I also see him as a Wr. That’s not a gadget player.

 

[charron]

On Offense he does not have a fumble problem.

In his 5 year career he has:
On Runs: 1 fumble
On Receptions: 4 fumbles
On Punt Returns: 17 fumbles

His fumble rate on offense for his career is better than:
Zeke 2016
Dez Career
Jay Ajayi 2017

Fumble Percentage On Offense:
1.32% Tavon Austin Career
1.41% Zeke 2016
0.96% Zeke Career
2.50% Jay Ajayi 2017
1.22% Jay Ajayi Career
1.81% David Johnson Career
1.57% Tiki Barber Career
2.59% Tiki Barber 2003
1.51% Dez Career

Yup 1.32% is worse than .96%. Now since most of his fumbles come on catches at wr, kr,pr that is where his issues lie. So basically he is a decent runner, bad pass catcher, bad yards per catch, and takes alot of risks as a returner but will score once a year. U wanna take zeke off the field for him?

 

[Jinxx13x]

TBH when you see that triple threat run with Zeke , Austin , and add to that Daks ability to run ! Defenses are gonna have to hesitate we are gonna be deadly in the red zone

 

[Tangle_Foot]

Get this guy in "space, the final frontier" and let him "explore new worlds"

 

[charron]

TBH when you see that triple threat run with Zeke , Austin , and add to that Daks ability to run ! Defenses are gonna have to hesitate we are gonna be deadly in the red zone

No. Defenses will get prepped to stop zeke #1, and cover austin like any receiver, the hard part is making sure dak stays in pocket. We used to get upbeat for dunbar in a similar way. Only to watch these coaches not utilize him.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Witten was the most dynamic player I can remember playing in space; you just had to give him the ball and let him create.

 

[1nfljunky]

So now Foles was mishandled?... Lol the same jackass had Austin too in LA...lol
McVay had him one year, and his production didn’t match his contract even after he restructured, that doesn’t mean he doesnt have talent . Don’t be ignorant and discount the change of scenery and fresh start.

No my man ignorance is having all the evidence at hand and still believe you know better, lol. I don’t know about you but I’ve never seen a change of scenery make a cat become a dog. There’s nothing even average about Tavon Austin’s career. We’ve gotten more production out of Corey Clement a UDFA And he will be more productive this year as well.

 

[Broges74]

Good value for what we have for him. I don't think whomever we would have selected at that pick would have made the impact Austin can.

 

[xwalker]

Yup 1.32% is worse than .96%. Now since most of his fumbles come on catches at wr, kr,pr that is where his issues lie. So basically he is a decent runner, bad pass catcher, bad yards per catch, and takes alot of risks as a returner but will score once a year. U wanna take zeke off the field for him?

1.32% is all offensive touches including passes.

He has never had more than 1 fumble in a season on passes.

From AdamJT13
He has never actually fumbled on 182 career rushes or 24 career kickoff returns. The one "fumble" he is credited with on a rushing play was not a fumble -- his knee was clearly down, and the ball went out of bounds. Since there was no turnover and no reason to challenge it, the "fumble" was never reviewed.

Also, he has three actual fumbles on receptions. His fourth "fumble" on a reception was actually an attempted lateral pass on one of those last-second plays when the losing team is throwing the ball around hoping for a miracle. Austin's lateral was recovered by the opponent.

On his 222 fielded punts, he has muffed 13 of them (four of which resulted in a turnover). He has fumbled four times during a punt return, but none of them resulted in a turnover.

So his problem, clearly, has been only muffed punts. Once he has the ball in his hands, he is no more likely to fumble than the majority of other players.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Seem pretty simple to me ....keep his a** off punt return team. That resolves over 80% his fumbling issues.....

 

[charron]

1.32% is all offensive touches including passes.

He has never had more than 1 fumble in a season on passes.

From AdamJT13
He has never actually fumbled on 182 career rushes or 24 career kickoff returns. The one "fumble" he is credited with on a rushing play was not a fumble -- his knee was clearly down, and the ball went out of bounds. Since there was no turnover and no reason to challenge it, the "fumble" was never reviewed.

Also, he has three actual fumbles on receptions. His fourth "fumble" on a reception was actually an attempted lateral pass on one of those last-second plays when the losing team is throwing the ball around hoping for a miracle. Austin's lateral was recovered by the opponent.

On his 222 fielded punts, he has muffed 13 of them (four of which resulted in a turnover). He has fumbled four times during a punt return, but none of them resulted in a turnover.

So his problem, clearly, has been only muffed punts. Once he has the ball in his hands, he is no more likely to fumble than the majority of other players.

2% fumbles on receptions for his career, well above what any normal coach would want in a non star player. He only looks good when you count his 184 rushes since he doesn't fumble running the ball. Small but effective role running and a measley 8.7 yards per catch over a 5 year career. You can like the guy all u want, but his impact will be minimal at best.

 

[mahoneybill]

On Offense he does not have a fumble problem.

In his 5 year career he has:
On Runs: 1 fumble
On Receptions: 4 fumbles
On Punt Returns: 17 fumbles

His fumble rate on offense for his career is better than:
Zeke 2016
Dez Career
Jay Ajayi 2017

Fumble Percentage On Offense:
1.32% Tavon Austin Career
1.41% Zeke 2016
0.96% Zeke Career
2.50% Jay Ajayi 2017
1.22% Jay Ajayi Career
1.81% David Johnson Career
1.57% Tiki Barber Career
2.59% Tiki Barber 2003
1.51% Dez Career

Thanks for the comparative stats. Better to see those and draw a conclusion re his offensive skills compared to he is a " fumbler" that from the above is concerning on Punt returns as it can yield potential better field position for opposition.

 

[xwalker]

Thanks for the comparative stats. Better to see those and draw a conclusion re his offensive skills compared to he is a " fumbler" that from the above is concerning on Punt returns as it can yield potential better field position for opposition.

Linehan is the person that wanted Austin.

If they use him on PR, they're crazy.

They'll probably give him PR chances in the preseason. If he does not have any fumbles then they'll probably try him at PR in the regular season.

In the past they gradually worked in some Punt Returners that they didn't trust with ball security. Lucky Whitehead and Beasley split PR in 2015 with Whitehead being eased into it and Beasley getting the nod in the highest pressure situations.

 

[CCBoy]

Can you read?

What did I say at the top of the post?

Some haven't figured out what reading retention is for...lol

 

[CCBoy]

2% fumbles on receptions for his career, well above what any normal coach would want in a non star player. He only looks good when you count his 184 rushes since he doesn't fumble running the ball. Small but effective role running and a measley 8.7 yards per catch over a 5 year career. You can like the guy all u want, but his impact will be minimal at best.

bonafied burn barrel buddy stuff here...

 

[xwalker]

2% fumbles on receptions for his career, well above what any normal coach would want in a non star player. He only looks good when you count his 184 rushes since he doesn't fumble running the ball. Small but effective role running and a measley 8.7 yards per catch over a 5 year career. You can like the guy all u want, but his impact will be minimal at best.

AdamJT13 says take out 1 fumble on a reception. His fumble rate on receptions is then:
Austin: 1.54%
Dez: 1.51%