Terrance Williams Disappears

[odog422]

When other areas improve people are hell bent on finding other areas to complain or concern troll about.

Sad...But true.

Yeah, in this case, I definitely agree. I saw the title and thought something happened to the kid personally, no way did I think it was on the field related.

I've seen the threads about "body catching" but this kid has made some clutch catches and taken some hellacious hits and kept performing.

Everyone has touched on us being a running offense with multiple viable targets in the passing game so what more could you possibly want from this guy? Is he keeping us from a Lombardi?? Uhhh, no....

 

[Frozen700]

That's the excuse? Dez was doubled and tripled? Have evidence of this?

A top 3 WR in this league should be able to beat double coverage, that Packers secondary isn't that scary. Williams simply played at a higher level than Dez in the playoffs. Dez gave us a long run after catch in the Detroit game and a bobbled ball in the Packers game. Williams gave us 3 TDs.

I dare you to leave this forum trying to Defend T-Williams. You'd get laughed at. Only on here can you pull this stunt. You love anyone with a Star on their helmet.

Yeah Williams is great.

T. Williams-2 catches20 yards vs Titans.

T. Williams1 catch18 yards vs Giants

T. Williams
2 catches
19 yards vs Ari

Vs the Jags a Bagel

Vs Giants again, 1 catch 18 yards

vs Eagles 2 catches 38 yards

Vs Chi(Horrible secondary) A Bagel

Vs Eagles again 2 catches 19 yards

Bum status. Half the games in a season he produced like a bum.

You right about that Dez bobble though, for all the fans that can't let go of the fact, he dropped it, and tried to act like he really made a clean catch.

 

[iceberg]

Two seasons in a row Terrance Williams has started the season strong, but fades badly in the second half of the season. I wonder what is going on with this kid. I'm in the camp that wouldn't be opposed to upgrading the WR2 position, but I do like this kid. I wish he would become a more reliably consistent catcher who uses his hands rather than his body.

We're going to need to lean on him more this year, so I hope he is there for us.

Sometimes you say very intelligent things.

The rest of the time we get this crap.

 

[mattjames2010]

I dare you to leave this forum trying to Defend T-Williams. You'd get laughed at. Only on here can you pull this stunt. You love anyone with a Star on their helmet.

Yeah Williams is great.

T. Williams-2 catches20 yards vs Titans.

T. Williams1 catch18 yards vs Giants

T. Williams
2 catches
19 yards vs Ari

Vs the Jags a Bagel

Vs Giants again, 1 catch 18 yards

vs Eagles 2 catches 38 yards

Vs Chi(Horrible secondary) A Bagel

Vs Eagles again 2 catches 19 yards

Bum status. Half the games in a season he produced like a bum.

You right about that Dez bobble though, for all the fans that can't let go of the fact, he dropped it, and tried to act like he really made a clean catch.

What part of spreading the ball do you not understand? Again, let's look at something here.

Dez Bryant - 88 receptions
Jason Witten - 64 receptions
Demarco Murray - 57 receptions
Terrance Williams - 37 receptions
Cole Beasley - 37 receptions

How many times did Romo throw the ball? 435 times in 15 games. We were primarily a running team.

Anything else?

 

[Frozen700]

What part of spreading the ball do you not understand? Again, let's look at something here.

Dez Bryant - 88 receptions
Jason Witten - 64 receptions
Demarco Murray - 57 receptions
Terrance Williams - 37 receptions
Cole Beasley - 37 receptions

How many times did Romo throw the ball? 435 times in 15 games. We were primarily a running team.

Anything else?

Oh we spread the ball. So that's the reason he wasn't getting the ball?

Oh, so when Romo would drop back(We all saw this unless you were not watching) When he would have all day in the pocket, and still couldn't find a guy. We were just spreading the ball, it had nothing to do with Williams not being able to defeat his 1 on 1 match up?. Naw couldn't be. Romo just ignored him, and said he wants to spread the ball, and take the sack doing so.

 

[mattjames2010]

Oh we spread the ball. So that's the reason he wasn't getting the ball?

Oh, so when Romo would drop back(We all saw this unless you were not watching) When he would have all day in the pocket, and still couldn't find a guy. We were just spreading the ball, it had nothing to do with Williams not being able to defeat his 1 on 1 match up?. Naw couldn't be. Romo just ignored him, and said he wants to spread the ball, and take the sack doing so.

He couldn't find a guy? What are you talking about?

He had a 69.9% completion rating and was sacked only 29 times last year. And even IF what you said was true, which obviously it's not, I love how you think only Williams was the one on the field. So Romo was just standing back in the pocket, waiting and waiting and waiting for ONLY Williams to be open.

Yes, great argument. How could I possibly refute that? Anything else from your "Williams Sucks!" agenda?

 

[Frozen700]

He couldn't find a guy? What are you talking about?

He had a 69.9% completion rating and was sacked only 29 times last year. And even IF what you said was true, which obviously it's not, I love how you think only Williams was the one on the field. So Romo was just standing back in the pocket, waiting and waiting and waiting for ONLY Williams to be open.

Yes, great argument. How could I possibly refute that? Anything else from your "Williams Sucks!" agenda?

Yeah.

Williams Sucks.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Thank you.

Some on here think I'm crazy for even saying we should possibly upgrade.

Let's face the cold hard truth here. We have **** for WR behind Dez asof right now. Cole Beasley is the only decent option, but he's a number 3/slot quick route runner. We do not have a legit number 2. A guy who can take advantage when Dez is being doubled. LR was the guy, he wasn't the best athlete, and nobody wanted him. Why can't we just bring in a guy who can actually catch, and get open from time 2 time?

Why does everything have to be big plays, or broken plays? Why can't he just be chains mover who beats his 1 on 1 coverage every so often, with the big plays as a bonus?

I don't want to hear the fact that we run a a lot. We ran a lot and Beasley was our chains mover with Dez being doubled. We shouldn't have to go 3 wide every time because Williams is a liability at #2 and can't break free of his man, or make clean catches "CONSISTENTLY".

You're right he's ghost for a few games where he posts either a bagel or 1-3 catches for 20 yards.

Bottom line, as of right now, as a #2 he sucks. He does not deserve to be a #2. He would be a great #4. Maybe even #3 if we had a legit 2.

Don't take this as a "I want another Dez type" No, I'll be happy with another LR type.

Twill is already better than Robinson ever was. His numbers are right in line with other #2's. Are the Pats worried about wide receiver? Seahawks got any receivers? Has drew brees ever had a good receiver? Dez Beasley williams is as good as it gets in this league.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I know one play doesn't make the rule but uh:

And this is how much he 'stretched' out to get the ball.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-naVYQ_ZKRGk/VVYw3JLU-lI/AAAAAAAABzc/Cf1B-rH6y5o/s400/williams.png

YR

 

[TheEnigma]

TWill had a broken finger last year. And played through it. I truly believe that effected his game. Tonyromo was asked about TWill not getting as many looks from him to throw to as before.
Tony said, things happen during games and during the season. TWill was in the game plan, but situations comeup, or the way plays develop, at times those players don't get the ball, or can't get the ball going their way.

But when his finger healed, he started getting catches again. I doubt it was a coaches or Tony confidence thing, but could been part of a decoy plan too.
I won't speculate on that, but glad he is on the team. He came up clutch time and time again.

Not only does a broken finger/hand affect a wide receivers ability to catch the ball, it affects their ability to get off the jam at the line if scrimmage and subsequently their ability to get separation.

 

[TrailBlazer]

That's the excuse? Dez was doubled and tripled? Have evidence of this?

A top 3 WR in this league should be able to beat double coverage, that Packers secondary isn't that scary. Williams simply played at a higher level than Dez in the playoffs. Dez gave us a long run after catch in the Detroit game and a bobbled ball in the Packers game. Williams gave us 3 TDs.

That's silly. I like williams but I know he would struggle a lot more if dez bryant wasn't lined up on the other side getting all the attention of the defense.

 

[TrailBlazer]

I dare you to leave this forum trying to Defend T-Williams. You'd get laughed at. Only on here can you pull this stunt. You love anyone with a Star on their helmet.

Yeah Williams is great.

T. Williams-2 catches20 yards vs Titans.

T. Williams1 catch18 yards vs Giants

T. Williams
2 catches
19 yards vs Ari

Vs the Jags a Bagel

Vs Giants again, 1 catch 18 yards

vs Eagles 2 catches 38 yards

Vs Chi(Horrible secondary) A Bagel

Vs Eagles again 2 catches 19 yards

Bum status. Half the games in a season he produced like a bum.

You right about that Dez bobble though, for all the fans that can't let go of the fact, he dropped it, and tried to act like he really made a clean catch.

We won all those games. We were running the ball with the lead. Why do we need an upgrade when we're winning even when he doesn't rack up numbers? Why mess with what's working

 

[CATCH17]

And yet Dallas finishes ranked 7th in total offense and win the East with that tomfoolery. Silly Jason Garrett.

How did we do before? Our offense put up numbers but lacked substance. Basically we lived and died by Romo's ability to make a play by doing something outside of his archaic offense.

The only thing saving our outdated passing schemes last year was the ability to run the ball.


It took us nearly 4 years to figure out how to beat a Defense that presses our receivers out wide and stacks the box without relying on Romo to run around and make a play.

You start feeding Dez Bryant some of these bubble screens like all of the other top NFL WR's get and he'll be one of the best YAC receivers of all time.

Also, are we the only team that doesn't try to expose the rules with legal pick plays?

 

[mattjames2010]

That's silly. I like williams but I know he would struggle a lot more if dez bryant wasn't lined up on the other side getting all the attention of the defense.

You can't claim this and not show evidence of it.

Show me that Williams "struggled" when Dez wasn't on the other side of him taking the attention? Right now, there is more evidence pointing towards the ball being spread around often and the running game taking away chances for our receivers. I'm sure the finger did factor in, but there's only so many balls that can go around.

 

[Garrettop]

And this is how much he 'stretched' out to get the ball.

YR

It's not ODBish but then few are. He ran halfway across the field and was already dragging his toes while trying to catch a ball that was over the sideline edge with 2 other guys right in his bubble. What more do you want in a catch?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Nothing wrong with TWill. He doesn't need replaced. We have bigger issues to spend our resources with on this team.

 

[Doomsday101]

It's not ODBish but then few are. He ran halfway across the field and was already dragging his toes while trying to catch a ball that was over the sideline edge with 2 other guys right in his bubble. What more do you want in a catch?

I just want the catch. I don't care if you catch it with your feet bottom line here did you make the catch? All I know is he drops very few and when Romo does go his way he makes plays. I expect like most players he will continue to grow as a WR. He is entering his 3rd season thus far I have no problems with him at all.

 

[jday]

Mods - Can we change the title. I just got an Amber Alert on my cellphone for Terrance.

 

[erod]

Escobar may have the talent, but he was a wasted pick considering how little he plays. There was many more players that could have contributed much more at other positions.

This will change. When you consider that 6 of Escobar's 18 receptions have gone for touchdowns, you can see his defined role on the team. He is an excellent redzone target with his height and hands.

Dallas ran the ball so well last year, it limited the opportunities for much of the passing game, which is ideal in my opinion.

 

[RS12]

Let T Williams be their biggest problem, or non problem.