Texans Interested in McClay?

[Seven]

Dez is essentially under contract for 1 more year. The out would cost 4m but it was built in and thus why he will likely be restructured or cut.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dez-bryant-6533/
It was a bad contract but Dez at the time averaged numbers no one in Philly has since Terrell Owens.
Big contracts look terrible in the long run about 90% of the time.

Jason Witten actually has a salary that DROPS each year and he is only the 8th highest cap hit on this team.
He goes from a 7.4m base last year to a 5.7m this year and that base keeps falling yearly.
His deal isn't bad. We just need a speed threat at TE to at least supplement him.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/jason-witten-2461/

Even with Dez and Witten, Dallas is one of the youngest teams in the NFL.
Philly is one of the oldest.

Philly signed Alshon Jeffrey to a deal worth 13m per season and didn't extend Agholor?
They have Fletcher Cox making 20m a year and just gave Jernigan 13m a year but Brandon Graham is on his last year.

Foles and Wentz make 15m between them. Foles actually makes slightly more than Wentz....
Zack Ertz is a solid TE but he makes 3m more than Jason Witten in 2018.

The Eagles are 7m over the estimated 2018 cap.
Dallas is 18.7m UNDER the cap.
Philly currently has pick 31 and doesn't pick again until the very end of round 4.
Dallas had 6 picks in that top 4 rounds.

So Dallas has 25m more cap room and 3-4 quality draft picks advantage.
Philly has an awesome QB with an ACL tear....
Who'd you rather have be your GM again?

You. You're, good. ~in my best Robert Deniro voice~

 

[Stash]

Nonsense.
The GM and staff were there WITH Kelly.

Check your history. Rose man was sent to another building to crunch numbers while Kelly destroyed that team. That's the opposite of "WITH Kelly".

They have used all their draft picks and cap space IN ADVANCE.
Jernigan was a 3rd and they have no 2nd or 3rd at all now. They paid him 13m a year which is why he was cheap in trade.
They have one draft pick in the top 120.

And they lapped the Cowboys. They've arrived. They don't need a ton of cap space. They don't have a ton of needs.

And they don't need 10 draft picks like the Cowboys do. They don't have the needs.

 

[Stash]

Ok if you're going to bring up inconvenient facts into the discussion like who the Cowboys actually wanted to draft then that's just not fair

I'm awful that way, aren't I?

 

[Seven]

If I'm Houston I'm taking the Philly guy...Philadelphia is so much better than us at this point, we lose a player here or there to injury/suspension this team falls apart. Dallas hasn't drafted as well as we think...we have very little depth at key position.

OK.

Who are we blaming again?

The coaches or the athletes?

This board is confusing the hell out of me....................

 

[jterrell]

just two years ago we lost our franchise qb for the year*, had the reigning offensive player stolen away with no replacement plan and went 4-12 and looked dead in the water. very next year we were the number one seed in the nfc as well. roseman throws so much sh at the wall (remember the dream team? ) it finally paid off. for a season. one that will end in the next week or so.

This. Roseman was every kid who ever played Madden.
And he's going to make it tough for Wentz going forward as they will not have the young bodies coming in the draft to grow with him and they tied up cap space long term on guys who may not be around or will be declining by the time Wentz returns from his ACL.
They went after the roster rebuild like they were a Super Bowl team and they looked like one for a bit but teams adjust to schemes and they lost the QB.
They couldn't beat Dallas in the suckfest week 18.
Couldn't even score one measly field goal.

 

[Sydla]

Nonsense.
The GM and staff were there WITH Kelly.

They have used all their draft picks and cap space IN ADVANCE.
Jernigan was a 3rd and they have no 2nd or 3rd at all now. They paid him 13m a year which is why he was cheap in trade.
They have one draft pick in the top 120.

Nonsense yourself. You should research this stuff before you rant and rave.

- For one, Joe Douglas, their player personnel guy was only hired this past year. So no, he wasn't with Kelly.

- Two, Roseman, the GM was neutered by the owner when Kelly took over after that first year. Kelly demanded personnel control and Lurie gave it to him and Roseman was essentially relegated to contract work.

- Three, they got Jernigan with a swap of 3rd round picks. The Eagles got Jernigan and the 99th pick for their 74th pick. And FYI, it was a great move because Jernigan was a wrecking ball in the middle of their defense paired with Cox. They traded the 99th pick (and Jordan Matthews) for Ronald Darby, right before the season started. So essentially they got Jernigan and Darby for a 3rd round pick and a slot WR they didn't need because they had Algholor. If the Cowboys made a move like that, you probably couldn't go to work for three days your boner would be so big.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Check your history. Rose man was sent to another building to crunch numbers while Kelly destroyed that team. That's the opposite of "WITH Kelly".

Yep it was reported there was an internal power struggle and since Philly paid to bring in a coach that others could not land he won out to bring in people to fit his system and philosphy.

Roseman was moved to another area, salary cap management or something.

And in the end...the Eagles changed their minds

At least that is what I remember.

 

[Sydla]

This. Roseman was every kid who ever played Madden.
And he's going to make it tough for Wentz going forward as they will not have the young bodies coming in the draft to grow with him and they tied up cap space long term on guys who may not be around or will be declining by the time Wentz returns from his ACL.
They went after the roster rebuild like they were a Super Bowl team and they looked like one for a bit but teams adjust to schemes and they lost the QB.
They couldn't beat Dallas in the suckfest week 18.
Couldn't even score one measly field goal.

Their two big recent signings were Jernigan (who is 25) and Jeffrey (who is 27). Not exactly aging dudes. Two guys in the prime of their careers.

 

[jday]

I think this would another step in what would be an all time off season.

Are you having stroke?

 

[Sydla]

Yep it was reported there was an internal power struggle and since Philly paid to bring in a coach that others could not land he won out to bring in people to fit his system and philosphy.

Roseman was moved to another area, salary cap management or something.

And in the end...the Eagles changed their minds

At least that is what I remember.

That's exactly what happened. After the first season where they made the playoffs, Kelly went to the owner and demanded more power and Lurie gave it to him basically relegating Roseman to a secondary role. I think he still technically had admin control over scouts and player personnel underlings, Kelly basically had final say on all personnel moves. Not only did they move him to another area, the reports were they actually moved Roseman's office clear across the training complex away from Kelly. Kelly then proceeded to dismantle part of the team he didn't like, such as dumping McCoy for Kiko Alonso and simply cutting D. Jackson. But after two bad seasons and in house tumult between Kelly and some players, Lurie decided to fire Kelly and give the GM powers back to Roseman.

Roseman is certainly not without flaws. While he wasn't the architect of the Dream Team in 2011 (Reid was), he certainly had his hand in it.

 

[Stash]

Yep it was reported there was an internal power struggle and since Philly paid to bring in a coach that others could not land he won out to bring in people to fit his system and philosphy.

Roseman was moved to another area, salary cap management or something.

And in the end...the Eagles changed their minds

At least that is what I remember.

Yep, that was it. And when they realized their mistake with Kelly, Roseman got the power back.

And give the man credit, he overcame Kelly's blunders and turned things completely around in under two years time.

Amazing.

 

[robjay04]

You undersell the job they did.

Remember, Kelly pretty much pilfered the offense of their best skill talent - he dumped Jackson and McCoy.

Their GM also went out this past offseason and landed a guy like Jernigan, who is a stud DT for them, by simply swapping third round picks. He was able to dump bad contracts/players Kelly brought in like Maxwell for real value that helped them land Wentz. Remember, the only reason they were even in a position to land Wentz was because they had moved into the Top Ten by trading with Miami who took Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell to allow Philly to move up.

What that front office has done in 2 seasons since Kelly left is remarkable.

Read what I said.

He did a good job dumping bad contracts that Kelly handed out but the Eagles had a ton of good talent.

Fletcher Cox, Vinny Curry, Malcolm Jenkins, Brandon Graham, Jordan Hicks, Bennie Logan.

That is a fantastic core on defense for anyone to inherit. Most new coaches would kill for defensive talent like that walking in the door. Yes, they had holes but it’s a lot easier to fill when you have the talent I just referenced.

Jason Kelce, Lane Johnson, Jason Peters.

Once again...most coaches would kill to walk in with established OL talent like that. Yes they had holes but once again, it’s easier to fill skill position holes when you have an established OL. Not to mention, they also inherited a QB that had enough value to warrant a first round compensation.

All I’m saying is that the team wasn’t nearly as in shambles when Kelly left as far as talent as people acted at the time. You could do worse than inheriting pro bowl caliber players for half of your starting lineup. Coaches have walked in to much worse situations.

 

[jterrell]

Nonsense yourself. You should research this stuff before you rant and rave.

- For one, Joe Douglas, their player personnel guy was only hired this past year. So no, he wasn't with Kelly.

- Two, Roseman, the GM was neutered by the owner when Kelly took over after that first year. Kelly demanded personnel control and Lurie gave it to him and Roseman was essentially relegated to contract work.

- Three, they got Jernigan with a swap of 3rd round picks. The Eagles got Jernigan and the 99th pick for their 74th pick. And FYI, it was a great move because Jernigan was a wrecking ball in the middle of their defense paired with Cox. They traded the 99th pick (and Jordan Matthews) for Ronald Darby, right before the season started. So essentially they got Jernigan and Darby for a 3rd round pick and a slot WR they didn't need because they had Algholor. If the Cowboys made a move like that, you probably couldn't go to work for three days your boner would be so big.

Douglas was the one outside guy they hired.
Roseman, the actual GM, has been there since he was a friggin ball boy.

Jernigan was given a 10 million dollar a year raise. That's why he was available. Cost.

Agholor is interesting because he wasn't extended. Agholor is 24. Dez is 29. He signed his deal before he was 27....
27 is old at WR. Especially when the QB is 25.

Philly should have been planning for a window down the road. Instead they've pawned off all their draft picks and spent all their cap cash.
I pointed this nonsense out BEFORE Wentz was injured by the way when everyone was creaming themselves over the Eagles.

 

[Sydla]

Typo in my earlier post. Douglas has been with the Eagles since 2016, not 2017.

 

[jterrell]

Are you having stroke?

He's an Eagles fan obviously so of course he is.
Can't imagine how hard he cried when Wentz went down.

 

[robjay04]

Dallas picked 5th and were never getting Wentz.
Philly jumped all the way to 2 for a reason and paid a crazy price for it.
If his ACL is serious they may be set back for years because they lost a lot of picks and just blew cap cash on old dudes.

I don't like the Philly roster mgmt at all.

Eagles definately have a short window.

Wentz can negotiate after next season and they will slowly start to see their defensive core players decline or they will have to move on from them. Not to mention they will see some OL holes start to open up as soon as this upcoming offseason.

They need to draft better in a hurry.

 

[aikemirv]

This had better not happen.......

McClay is one of the few bright spots in an otherwise gloomy sea of leadership.

Do you guys work in the building or something? I always wonder how you guys think you know so much about how this organization really works.....

 

[Sydla]

Douglas was the one outside guy they hired.
Roseman, the actual GM, has been there since he was a friggin ball boy.

Jernigan was given a 10 million dollar a year raise. That's why he was available. Cost.

Agholor is interesting because he wasn't extended. Agholor is 24. Dez is 29. He signed his deal before he was 27....
27 is old at WR. Especially when the QB is 25.

Philly should have been planning for a window down the road. Instead they've pawned off all their draft picks and spent all their cap cash.
I pointed this nonsense out BEFORE Wentz was injured by the way when everyone was creaming themselves over the Eagles.

Douglas wasn't their only hire that offseason. They revamped much of their player personnel department.

Who cares why Jernigan was traded. Fact is he was and the Eagles got him cheap. You mean to tell me you wouldn't have swapped third round picks with Baltimore to get Jernigan? If you say no, that shows how much of a fool you are given the issues we have at the 1 Tech in this defense.

Eagles don't have to make a decision on Agholor at this time. He's under contract for 2018 and the Eagles have an option for 2019 as well.

 

[jterrell]

Their two big recent signings were Jernigan (who is 25) and Jeffrey (who is 27). Not exactly aging dudes. Two guys in the prime of their careers.

They extended 35 year old Jason Peters at 3 years and 32.5m.
They extended 27 year old Jeffrey at 4 years and 52M with half that GTD. Makes him 32 when they deal is done...
Jernigan they traded for then extended at 4 years and 48 million for the cost of a 4th round pick worth of value.

They've already structured all the deals to be 2018 friendly and yet are still 7M over the cap.
Wake up man. That's as overrated a situation as exists anywhere.

 

[jterrell]

Do you guys work in the building or something? I always wonder how you guys think you know so much about how this organization really works.....

because lots of people who have or currently work in the building tell us on a regular basis on radio shows and twitter.