Texas and OU have expressed interest in joining SEC

[Diehardblues]

I do not see it as sleazy, more self-preservation and they are married to the SEC, would you have them cheat on them with the Big 12 or Big 10?

The super conference is coming regardless of what ESPN does, they're just getting out in front of CBS and Fox.

The entire landscape of college football is changing with some players able to make some very good money, change teams and bigger games for TV.

ESPN was neck deep in rights fees and it just made sense to help make stronger that which they were married to and probably increase the value of it.

And fans of college football get what we want, to see teams like OU teeing it up against better competition in the SEC than Kansas State and Texas Tech. The ingredients are all there for some great rivalries to happen in the four states of AR, LA, OK and TX. UT going against AR and A&M again will be special. And I think AR and OU is one just waiting to happen.

On the other side, Bama and Auburn playing UGA and FL every year will be special.

I would like to see 7 division games and 3 in the other division and fewer tune up games but I don't think they'll go any deeper than 2 into the other division. Less chance of a SEC Championship rematch.

The downside of course is for all of the fans with the teams not TX or OU in Big 12 who will lose those rivalries we’ve had with some for a century and several generations.

We will have something new to root against as we did Arkansas, Nebraska and A&M to not have as much success for greener pastures in bigger and better conferences. Good luck LOL !!!

 

[Diehardblues]

The sad part is for Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, OK St, Iowa St, Kansas and K St. I’ll be rooting extra hard for their success moving forward.

We always knew it was the Tx and OU conference but we also knew we helped provide them more favorable records which ultimately gained them more national attention much like Nebraska and Arkansas used to enjoy.

My hunch is this will tone down these schools success as well . And their fans much like I’ve heard from Razorback and Husker fans they will miss having their old rivalries to beat up on and higher national profiles with more conference championships and national contention.

These are already wealthy athletic universities. But it’s never enough. They will have a much tougher time making playoffs even when they expand it. I’m not surprised but disappointed much like I was when SWC was terminated. The good news is I had these rivalries for most of my life.

 

[atlantacowboy]

It'll be close.
Lousiville was very contested. But they brought something unique to the table in that they were one of the 20 wealthiest athletic programs, had a historically famous basketball program and an overall program that was on a huge role.

In the 6 years leading up to the vote, Louisville was the nation's only school that had reached both the men's and women's basketball Final Four, a BCS bowl game, the College World Series and the Men's Soccer College Cup.

WVU could not dream of touching that.

And although the dropoff academically to get to Louisville was large .... the lowest before UL was 80 and now is 171....it would be twice as bad with WVU (241).

WVU has a solid hoops and football program, but nothing historical. The rest of the athletic program is not special.

I'm not saying it won't happen, but I am certain that Duke, Virginia, UNC, Wake Forest and maybe others will all vote against it.

I'm getting ready to go to Virginia and North Carolina to visit family. We're having a mini reunion on Saturday and there will be a couple of WVU fans there to go with UNC, ECU, Va, Fla St and Clemson fans.
Should make for interesting conversation

Another scenario is an SEC-ACC merger. I think the SEC is just so far ahead of other conferences at this point that it makes no financial sense to compete against it for money. Fox and ESPN have locked up TV rights for the conference and no league has a deal even close to it. With the addition of Texas and OU, the SEC can back to those TV contracts and ask for even more money. That money is going to be a big influence on recruiting which is going to make competing against the league even harder.

Eventually, I envision a 32 team super conference which is going to be more like an NFL junior league. All other schools will form what will in essence be a lower division of conferences. I don't like it, but money is driving this, and it just seems inevitable at this point b/c it is nobody's job to stop it.

 

[Diehardblues]

Another scenario is an SEC-ACC merger. I think the SEC is just so far ahead of other conferences at this point that it makes no financial sense to compete against it for money. Fox and ESPN have locked up TV rights for the conference and no league has a deal even close to it. With the addition of Texas and OU, the SEC can back to those TV contracts and ask for even more money. That money is going to be a big influence on recruiting which is going to make competing against the league even harder.

Eventually, I envision a 32 team super conference which is going to be more like an NFL junior league. All other schools will form what will in essence be a lower division of conferences. I don't like it, but money is driving this, and it just seems inevitable at this point b/c it is nobody's job to stop it.

Good point. And if that’s the case then the money could create a new level or Division in NCAA.

For example maybe if you’re not in a super conference you become Division 1B as opposed to Division 1A.

These top recruits are also going to gravitate where they can attract more endorsements. Maybe TX and OU see where this is all going with Amateur athletes ( at least the big name stars) now basically getting paid under the new rules.

This could be the beginning of the end as we know it for Division 1 sports.

 

[dogberry]

What happened to CBS and the SEC?

 

[Diehardblues]

What happened to CBS and the SEC?

SEC is leaving CBS

https://www.si.com/college/2020/12/10/sec-espn-abc-tv-contract-leaving-cbs

 

[Diehardblues]

The real reason OU wants out of Big 12.

Too many 11am kickoffs on Fox and ABC.

https://www.si.com/college/westvirginia/football/the-real-reason-oklahoma-wants-out-of-the-big-12

 

[triplets_93]

SEC VOTED 14-0 TO ALLOW

OKLAHOMA AND TEXAS

TO JOIN THE SEC

 

[triplets_93]

The real reason OU wants out of Big 12.

Too many 11am kickoffs on Fox and ABC.

https://www.si.com/college/westvirginia/football/the-real-reason-oklahoma-wants-out-of-the-big-12

It always pissed me off to have to get up to watch a Texas-OU game at 11am in the morning. I'm not even sentimental about the Cotton Bowl. I'd prefer moving the game to Arlington at night.

 

[Robbieac]

SEC VOTED 14-0 TO ALLOW

OKLAHOMA AND TEXAS

TO JOIN THE SEC

Whelp.

There went all of the theories about how there was a good chance they wouldn’t even get 11 out of 14 school’s support.

 

[Red Dragon]

As a Horns fan I'm sure Texas will be brutally steamrolled by Bama, Georgia, LSU, etc. for the first few years. But in the long run it'll make Texas better.

And now I have to train myself to stop calling Texas UT now that there is another school in the same conference also called UT.

 

[uvaballa]

Another scenario is an SEC-ACC merger. I think the SEC is just so far ahead of other conferences at this point that it makes no financial sense to compete against it for money. Fox and ESPN have locked up TV rights for the conference and no league has a deal even close to it. With the addition of Texas and OU, the SEC can back to those TV contracts and ask for even more money. That money is going to be a big influence on recruiting which is going to make competing against the league even harder.

Eventually, I envision a 32 team super conference which is going to be more like an NFL junior league. All other schools will form what will in essence be a lower division of conferences. I don't like it, but money is driving this, and it just seems inevitable at this point b/c it is nobody's job to stop it.

Did you hear about this somewhere or just throwing the merger idea out there? Not sure how that would work with football but all other sports could be interesting.

 

[Ghost12]

SEC VOTED 14-0 TO ALLOW

OKLAHOMA AND TEXAS

TO JOIN THE SEC

Like I said, it wouldn't have gotten this far if they didn't have their ducks in a row. There was no way they were losing this vote, even though A&M arms were twisted into making it unanimous.

 

[Ghost12]

It always pissed me off to have to get up to watch a Texas-OU game at 11am in the morning. I'm not even sentimental about the Cotton Bowl. I'd prefer moving the game to Arlington at night.

Agreed. They really should move it to Arlington. It's the game we all want to see, not the stadium. No one will miss the old Cotton Bowl. Even the Cotton Bowl isn't played in the Cotton Bowl.

 

[Ghost12]

This could be the beginning of the end as we know it for Division 1 sports.

I see a lot of people say that, but I don't think from the viewers' standpoint all that much is going to change (especially the casual viewer). I mean, I am going to get out of bed on Saturday mornings and watch college football. It doesn't really matter to me sitting at home if the QB is making nothing or a million. All this restructuring will probably make for more marquee matchups, which is a good thing. And I have advocated for expanding the playoffs ever since the current format was created, so that's a good thing too.

 

[Dallas_Cowboys50]

As a Horns fan I'm sure Texas will be brutally steamrolled by Bama, Georgia, LSU, etc. for the first few years. But in the long run it'll make Texas better.

And now I have to train myself to stop calling Texas UT now that there is another school in the same conference also called UT.

This is what Ive been telling all my friends, family and co-workers as well. Any recruits eyeing the Horns can no longer be swayed by the "Yea but I wanna play in the SEC" thing anymore......I personally believe we should of been in the SEC all along (at least since before the creation of the Big 12), Im just stoked its finally happening. I was legit jealous of A&M when they went.

 

[Dallas_Cowboys50]

Agreed. They really should move it to Arlington. It's the game we all want to see, not the stadium. No one will miss the old Cotton Bowl. Even the Cotton Bowl isn't played in the Cotton Bowl.

Theyd have to move the Texas State Fair to Arlington 1st, cause thats a big draw to alot of people, not the Stadium. Not too many games played in the middle of a State Fair, the best one in the country I might add lol. I do agree with the 11am games though, puke! They've done 2pm before, which is a lil better. But why not ever have one at night?

 

[triplets_93]

Theyd have to move the Texas State Fair to Arlington 1st, cause thats a big draw to alot of people, not the Stadium.

I don't get what you're trying to say.

Texas-OU fans and alumni would fill out AT&T Stadium every year for that game. The State Fair part is irrelevant to ticket sales. It's a great hassle to drive and park for the fair. Much less of a hassle to drive and park for the Arlington Stadium!!

But... I know that the schools have signed a contract with the City of Dallas.

The City could lure some other schools to play during the fair... Maybe Baylor and TCU for example...

 

[triplets_93]

The University of Texas addressing the Butt Hurt schools in Texas in the Big 12 over what they think they're entitled to:

We live in a college football world that has Conferences, and those Conferences have to be guarded by alumni, with money. Who's gonna do it? You Baylor? You, Texas Tech? UT has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for the Big 12, and you curse the Horns. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that the Big 12's demise, while tragic, probably saves lives; and our existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.

I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think you're entitled to!

 

[Red Dragon]

I would agree with the idea of moving Texas-OU either to indoor AT&T Stadium or night time at the Cotton Bowl - just because of brutal daytime heat.