Texas and OU have expressed interest in joining SEC

[Diehardblues]

Baylor v TCU = JIHAD!!!!!!!

TCU has distanced themselves from that over the years but it was still one of Randy Galloway's best bits when his sidekick was one of your fellow alums.

I was speaking more of these teams rivalries with Texas. But yes, the Frogs absence for years diluted the rivalry. But for those of us old enough recall how fueled it had been. And we welcomed their return.

Most of my family attended either TCU or Baylor so with us it was a huge rivalry. And why I’ve maintained unless you’re from one of the schools left out very difficult to relate to our pain and anguish.

 

[triplets_93]

Aborting century old traditions and rivalries for the almighty dollar when already wealthier than sin. I hope they never see the light of a championship again. Screw em!!!

Ahhhh, but you forget... UT is like The Cowboys.... They do not have to win Championships to stay profitable. And yes, there will be even more profit for UT in the SEC!!

 

[triplets_93]

 

[Diehardblues]

Ahhhh, but you forget... UT is like The Cowboys.... They do not have to win Championships to stay profitable. And yes, there will be even more profit for UT in the SEC!!

Yep. No doubt. And there will be less championships.
Screw em!!!

 

[Diehardblues]

If TX and OU had real class and a sense of tradition they could have insisted or at least recommended the SEC consider bringing along some of the Big 12 rivals.

And at the very least coordinated with the Big 12 their intentions so the remaining schools could negotiate deals themselves with other conferences or with the SEC as well.

 

[triplets_93]

It's Official Now...

University of Texas System Board of Regents Votes to Approve University of Texas at Austin Joining the Southeastern Conference

https://news.utexas.edu/2021/07/30/...t-austin-joining-the-southeastern-conference/

 

[Ghost12]

If TX and OU had real class and a sense of tradition they could have insisted or at least recommended the SEC consider bringing along some of the Big 12 rivals.

Why would the SEC do that? Texas and OU are not in a position to dictate terms to the SEC. They should - and have - meekly bowed to their new conference mates and gladly accepted any terms the conference would have for them.

 

[DFWJC]

Why would the SEC do that? Texas and OU are not in a position to dictate terms to the SEC. They should - and have - meekly bowed to their new conference mates and gladly accepted any terms the conference would have for them.

Yeah, Completely understand TCU, Baylor, and the others’ frustration, but the SEC was not an option

OU and UT were sneaky and clandestine here though. That is for certain.
They pulled off their treachery off brilliantly though!

 

[Diehardblues]

Why would the SEC do that? Texas and OU are not in a position to dictate terms to the SEC. They should - and have - meekly bowed to their new conference mates and gladly accepted any terms the conference would have for them.

Two of the richest and most successful schools didn’t need to bow down. They have the influence which could have possibly dictated terms.

 

[CouchCoach]

If TX and OU had real class and a sense of tradition they could have insisted or at least recommended the SEC consider bringing along some of the Big 12 rivals.

And at the very least coordinated with the Big 12 their intentions so the remaining schools could negotiate deals themselves with other conferences or with the SEC as well.

Insisted? They went with hat in hand with ESPN brokering the deal.

I don't think the SEC has designs on any other Big 12 schools, if they want to add two more, I could see Miami and Florida State out of the ACC but wouldn't put it past the SEC to go after Clemson and Miami.

 

[CouchCoach]

Yeah, Completely understand TCU, Baylor, and the others’ frustration, but the SEC was not an option

OU and UT were sneaky and clandestine here though. That is for certain.
They pulled off their treachery off brilliantly though!

The funniest line out of all of this was from the anon Big 12 guys that said "we'd expect this out of Texas but we're really disappointed in Oklahoma".

The need to rename the Texas Board of Regents "The Pit of Vipers".

 

[Diehardblues]

Insisted? They went with hat in hand with ESPN brokering the deal.

I don't think the SEC has designs on any other Big 12 schools, if they want to add tow more, I could see Miami and Florida State out of the ACC but wouldn't put it past the SEC to go after Clemson and Miami.

They accepted Missouri for crying out loud. You don’t think anyone else in Big 12 measures up to Missouri?

And A&M besides their size and financial support have had no more success in athletics than some of the remaining schools.

 

[CouchCoach]

Two of the richest and most successful schools didn’t need to bow down. They have the influence which could have possibly dictated terms.

No, they do not and they admitted as much, they secretly began courting the SEC 6 months ago and sold themselves to Sankey, the Commish, with ESPN's help. The SEC is the bully on the schoolyard and they know it, they don't need OU or UT and if they'd been interested in adding teams, they would have looked at Clemsom, FSU or Miami before moving west.

 

[Ghost12]

Two of the richest and most successful schools didn’t need to bow down.

Yeah. Yeah, they kinda really did.

They have the influence which could have possibly dictated terms.

No. No, they kinda really don't - ESPECIALLY if they said something like "well, we will only come it you take Baylor and TCU as well...." The SEC would've told them to go screw.

 

[CouchCoach]

They accepted Missouri for crying out loud. You don’t think anyone else in Big 12 measures up to Missouri?

And A&M besides their size and financial support have had no more success in athletics than some of the remaining schools.

They were growing toward their target at that time, they did not have plans of adding teams until OU and UT approached them.

It was an easy sell for ESPN, the SEC gets to add the state school from the 2nd largest state in the country and that gives them the top 2 schools with alum assns. That allowed them to sweeten the SECN pot because that will now be the must have conference network and the Longhorn Network goes away. Hell, I would take the SEC over the Sunday Ticket but I am a college hound, mainly SEC backed up by the Big 12, but no more.

 

[Diehardblues]

They were growing toward their target at that time, they did not have plans of adding teams until OU and UT approached them.

It was an easy sell for ESPN, the SEC gets to add the state school from the 2nd largest state in the country and that gives them the top 2 schools with alum assns. That allowed them to sweeten the SECN pot because that will now be the must have conference network and the Longhorn Network goes away. Hell, I would take the SEC over the Sunday Ticket but I am a college hound, mainly SEC backed up by the Big 12, but no more.

I understand why it happened but you asked why wouldn’t consider other schools in Big 12?

And there was no sell at all . I agree . No brainer and why TX and OU might have had more leverage.

Even if my school had been left out I’d of had more respect if a Tech or OK ST for example might have been considered or recommended by TX amd OU.

 

[CouchCoach]

They accepted Missouri for crying out loud. You don’t think anyone else in Big 12 measures up to Missouri?

And A&M besides their size and financial support have had no more success in athletics than some of the remaining schools.

The SEC likes state schools, they're not big on private ones and if Vandy wasn't grandfathered into the SEC, they wouldn't be there.

It's all about eyes on the prize, those eyes on ESPN and SECN, there are $ in those eyes.

As much as we hammer every little thing about ESPN, this was a brilliant move and they caught Fox with their pants down. What have they got now?

 

[CouchCoach]

I understand why it happened but you asked why wouldn’t consider other schools in Big 12?

And there was no sell at all . I agree . No brainer and why TX and OU might have had more leverage .

What other schools in the Big 12 would they consider? First off, they weren't in adding teams mode and why would they consider any Big 12 schools, except OU and UT, over going after ACC ones like Clemson, FSU and Miami?

 

[Diehardblues]

Yeah. Yeah, they kinda really did.
No. No, they kinda really don't - ESPECIALLY if they said something like "well, we will only come it you take Baylor and TCU as well...." The SEC would've told them to go screw.

And if SEC didn’t agree then they could at least say they tried . But no conference would have refused accepting TX and OU on their own .

 

[Rockport]

Ahhhh, but you forget... UT is like The Cowboys.... They do not have to win Championships to stay profitable. And yes, there will be even more profit for UT in the SEC!!

How many NFL teams are losing money?