Texas and OU have expressed interest in joining SEC

[CowboyFrog]

The best conference in college sports is 1/35th of the NFL's TV revenue. If you think adding Ohio State and Clemson gets them up to half, you're just not living in reality.
The NFL's TV revenue is 35 times that of the SEC (oh, and by the way.... that ESPN SEC deal covers multiple sports so football by itself doesn't even get the full $300 million....)

The college TV revenue per conference when compared to the NFL is not even in the same atmosphere.

Again your comparing the right now to what is comming....They will cut any dead wieght out and have the 20 to 24 most marketable teams in a superconfernce.....what other game will be showing at 12-3-7.....I'm telling you this 12 team playoff with an "at large" was a farce...What is the second most watched sport right now under the NFL? this would beat out the NBA, NHL, MLB easily. Again I hope I'm wrong but I only see whats happening and this is the only logical end to it.

 

[Ghost12]

Again your comparing the right now to what is comming....They will cut any dead wieght out and have the 20 to 24 most marketable teams in a superconfernce.....what other game will be showing at 12-3-7.....I'm telling you this 12 team playoff with an "at large" was a farce...What is the second most watched sport right now under the NFL? this would beat out the NBA, NHL, MLB easily. Again I hope I'm wrong but I only see whats happening and this is the only logical end to it.

You could put every single one of the top NCAA draws in one single conference, and it is still pennies compared to what the NFL brings in.

Not to mention that if you put all the best teams in one conference, then some of them are going to suck (relative to the others) and all of a sudden they're not that big of a draw anymore.

 

[CowboyFrog]

You could put every single one of the top NCAA draws in one single conference, and it is still pennies compared to what the NFL brings in.

Not to mention that if you put all the best teams in one conference, then some of them are going to suck (relative to the others) and all of a sudden they're not that big of a draw anymore.

I mean some of the NFL teams suck....its a brand your correct it will not draw NFL money...it will super kill the money they are making now. What would the Big 10 need to do right now to compete with what the SEC has right now? Lets say the big 10 goes after Clemosn and FSU...follow me here...and there are 2 "super ish conferences" ESPN and FOX just keep saying "damn look at all the money you split with Vandy, if you could replace them with USC your portion would go up".....I'm sorry there is no other reason UT is making this move other than to make more money and be on prime time TV for recruiting (and being able to pay players). Do you think OSU has no want to compete with that?

 

[DFWJC]

I mean some of the NFL teams suck....its a brand your correct it will not draw NFL money...it will super kill the money they are making now. What would the Big 10 need to do right now to compete with what the SEC has right now? Lets say the big 10 goes after Clemosn and FSU...follow me here...and there are 2 "super ish conferences" ESPN and FOX just keep saying "damn look at all the money you split with Vandy, if you could replace them with USC your portion would go up".....I'm sorry there is no other reason UT is making this move other than to make more money and be on prime time TV for recruiting (and being able to pay players). Do you think OSU has no want to compete with that?

NFL crosses all market barriers.
All 50 states have a massive NFL following.

A 20 team SEC market would be large but limited, relatively speaking.
There are some areas of the country that could care less about college football and especially the SEC plus a few more teams....and most die-hard fans that I know have some sort of toes to a university or at least live in the state.

 

[CowboyFrog]

NFL crosses all market barriers.
All 50 states have a massive NFL following.

A 20 team SEC market would be large but limited, relatively speaking.
There are some areas of the country that could care less about college football and especially the SEC plus a few more teams....and most die-hard fans that I know have some sort of toes to a university or at least live in the state.

Correct which is why they are going to get all the 20-24 marketable teams in one conference...if you look up the list it basically covers coast to coast...Whashington is on the list, again this has nothing to do with th how good your program is (see UT) it is about how many eyes watch them.

 

[DFWJC]

There is a chance 11 teams will not approve

Texas AM...hard "no"
Missouri...hard "no"

Arkansas....I would not be surprised if they are "no" as well....hurts their Texas recruiting
LSU....also a chance they say "no"

 

[CowboyFrog]

There is a chance 11 teams will not approve

Texas AM...hard "no"
Missouri...hard "no"

Arkansas....I would not be surprised if they are "no" as well....hurts their Texas recruiting
LSU....also a chance they say "no"

This has been going on for 6 + months no way they come out if it was not already done...AtM was in suprise and did come out yelling...ESPN then told them the plan and they shut up real quick this weekend.

 

[Ghost12]

I mean some of the NFL teams suck....its a brand your correct it will not draw NFL money...it will super kill the money they are making now. What would the Big 10 need to do right now to compete with what the SEC has right now? Lets say the big 10 goes after Clemosn and FSU...follow me here...and there are 2 "super ish conferences" ESPN and FOX just keep saying "damn look at all the money you split with Vandy, if you could replace them with USC your portion would go up".....I'm sorry there is no other reason UT is making this move other than to make more money and be on prime time TV for recruiting (and being able to pay players). Do you think OSU has no want to compete with that?

They can only broadcast so many games and the revenues will be tied to ratings. It isn't like all of a sudden 50 times as many people in this country are all going to start watching college football. There are large segments of this country that just don't give a crap about college sports. The northeast is a huge segment of the U.S. population and they just don't get into college football like other places do.

 

[CowboyFrog]

They can only broadcast so many games and the revenues will be tied to ratings. It isn't like all of a sudden 50 times as many people in this country are all going to start watching college football. There are large segments of this country that just don't give a crap about college sports. The northeast is a huge segment of the U.S. population and they just don't get into college football like other places do.

For sure there are alot more NFL fans no doubt, but again after that what sport is second, I'm not in favor of this but it is comming. The top schools have been carrying thier conference for ever, they now have someone telling them to dump them and they can get a bigger payday. This is happening and stopping it will require legal actions in court because the money is there and as you watch FOX and ESPN start getting together on this its going to get faster. If your ESPN and FOX do you want to pay out sums to 6 leagues and get realy varying results or pay mega money to one league and control everything and know the ratings will be there every game....and then you have full control of who is in the playoff to make sure the add money is ridiculous.

 

[triplets_93]

 

[Ghost12]

For sure there are alot more NFL fans no doubt, but again after that what sport is second, I'm not in favor of this but it is comming. The top schools have been carrying thier conference for ever, they now have someone telling them to dump them and they can get a bigger payday. This is happening and stopping it will require legal actions in court because the money is there and as you watch FOX and ESPN start getting together on this its going to get faster. If your ESPN and FOX do you want to pay out sums to 6 leagues and get realy varying results or pay mega money to one league and control everything and know the ratings will be there every game....and then you have full control of who is in the playoff to make sure the add money is ridiculous.

ESPN and Fox will do both: The big conferences get a lot of money, the small conferences get less money. It isn't like all those also-rans aren't going to be broadcast any longer. The marquee games are on the marquee stations but ESPNU and FSSW still do better broadcasting UNLV-Air Force football instead of any other sport out there.

 

[triplets_93]

 

[CowboyFrog]

ESPN and Fox will do both: The big conferences get a lot of money, the small conferences get less money. It isn't like all those also-rans aren't going to be broadcast any longer. The marquee games are on the marquee stations but ESPNU and FSSW still do better broadcasting UNLV-Air Force football instead of any other sport out there.

Yes your right but if they can turn the Bama-vandy game into Bama-OSU during the season then have it again in the playoffs...they will. There will be footbal for the smaller schools (i'm a TCU fan so this sucks bad now) it will just not be against the top helmets from the conferences ... The TV revenue for Bama playing a top 20 team every game is big...the TV revenue of having 10 top 20 games a week..well now you have something that will break tradition.

 

[triplets_93]

 

[jterrell]

If the rumors of the SEC (ESPN) talking to OSU-PSU-Clemson-FSU are true every conference is about to get raided....the money is too big. Literally look at the list of the top marketable CFB programs and there is your new super conference....Money has, does, and always will win out.

Again, you have to look no farther than Euro soccer to see that's not true.

Money in a Euro Super League was massive but fan bases revolted and teams couldn't crawl back home fast enough.

Take the top 24 teams.
Those 24 are going to lose fans out of principle and because well when these teams who have had top 5 finishes in their conf now finish 20th out of 24 teams who wants to watch that??

UT has made more money than anyone the last decade and it's football team has sucked.
Money only goes so far. And that money is all predicated upon fans. Lose fans, lose games eventually you'll lose money.

I would watch zero seconds of an NCAA super league. Zero.
It craps on 130 years worth of NCAA football history.

I'd definitely band together with the next grouping of 40-50 teams and refuse to play ANY of the Super League teams.
Those 24 teams playing each other over and over and the same teams winning won't sell nearly so well as they pretend now.

Teams like PSU/FSU would be insane to join that league.
They want to try to compete with those major conf powers while overcoming advantages they have now?
LOL, just dumb.

 

[jterrell]

Not equal but half for the 20-24 most marketable teams in a super conference...think of this, they have done it in baby steps they being ESPN. Get the NCAA out of the mix (check). Pave the way for players to be paid (check) create a 12 team playoff (check) start relegating teams (check)....I dont think this is crazy...the money diference in markets between Bama and Vandy is huge and Bama splits it even.....Its not crazy its TV business and I could easily see that confernce and playoff setup getting half (even a third ) of what the NFL get and it will be huge money.

Dude, they aren't getting half.
They won't even get a 1/3.

Top NFL ratings shares are in the 30's and 40s. CFP Championship was 10 this year.
Only 3 NCAA games surpassed 9M viewers.
The Cowboys vs Washington Thanksgiving game last year drew more than 30M.
An eliminated Cowboys team draws 14-15M on a random game day.
The Super Bowl drew 91M.

But yes they would get A LOT of money.
Then the team would be forced to compete at a very high level or start to lose support and fans.
And that is a massive financial hit.

 

[DFWJC]

Agreed. WVU goes to the ACC. Its a no-brainer. If they voted in Louisville, they are clearly thinking more in terms of athletics than academics.

It'll be close.
Lousiville was very contested. But they brought something unique to the table in that they were one of the 20 wealthiest athletic programs, had a historically famous basketball program and an overall program that was on a huge role.

In the 6 years leading up to the vote, Louisville was the nation's only school that had reached both the men's and women's basketball Final Four, a BCS bowl game, the College World Series and the Men's Soccer College Cup.

WVU could not dream of touching that.

And although the dropoff academically to get to Louisville was large .... the lowest before UL was 80 and now is 171....it would be twice as bad with WVU (241).

WVU has a solid hoops and football program, but nothing historical. The rest of the athletic program is not special.

I'm not saying it won't happen, but I am certain that Duke, Virginia, UNC, Wake Forest and maybe others will all vote against it.

I'm getting ready to go to Virginia and North Carolina to visit family. We're having a mini reunion on Saturday and there will be a couple of WVU fans there to go with UNC, ECU, Va, Fla St and Clemson fans.
Should make for interesting conversation

 

[SlammedZero]

This will be interesting to see how the conference shake up. I'm hopeful Boise State can benefit in some way, but, I'm sure they'll be get left on the outside looking in again. Or, finally get to a decent conference just as everybody worthwhile bounces. lol

On that note, the SEC is going to be ridiculous.

 

[Diehardblues]

Remember 11 SEC schools have to vote them in.

A&M and Missouri have already said they’re against it. I could see Arkansas and or a LSU against it because of recruiting . And I believe Florida and or Georgia were against A&M coming in. Never know.

Just because they’ve announced they plan on leaving there must be an official invitation from enough of the schools in that conference.

I’d look for Big 12 initially to look for other schools to add to conference . Maybe even a big name like Notre Dame or someone from ACC. Unless the remaining schools just splinter off on their own to some in Big 10 and some to Pac 12.

 

[Doomsday101]

As a Longhorns fan I'm excited to see them move into a top conference like the SEC. No easy task ahead of them that's for sure.