Texas Rangers 2012 Thread

[WPBCowboysFan]

This teams failure this season had nothing to do with Washington. I think it had more to do with Josh Hamilton than Washington.

What?????

 

[YosemiteSam]

What?????

Are you a Texas Rangers fan? If so, have you not been paying attention?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't think Washington is a great tactician, but for the most part the players seem to like playing for him.

It's easy to blame Hamilton, but even though he didn't approach the "gargantuan" numbers several folks here thought he would get based on his start to the season, the guy put together a very solid campaign. His deteriment is that he's a "hacker". When things are going well he's taking his cuts and making solid contact. His cold spells are a lot of swinging and missing and not contributing much to the offense.

But this is a lineup that led the AL in runs scored to simply dump on Hamilton as being the big reason the team didn't advance is goofy. Other than a couple of guys, the starting pitching was shaky or injured for a good part of the season.

The team still has a lot of talent but it's going to need some retooling. I don't think the Rangers will re-up Hamilton and if they do, they'll probably cut back somewhere else.

On top of that while they'll be getting the rebuilding Astros in the division next year, the other three teams are going to offer some solid competition.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yankees fan? didnt see that one coming :

Would it have been better if he had said he didn't see all of this coming on behalf of the Rangers?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Another 5 years he will be a Steeler fan lol. He really is an example of whats wrong with sports fans.Sad.If the Heat got Lebron out of high School and had this team Id venture to say he would have jumped on that bandwagon when he was like 12.

No, your an example of what's wrong with sports. He picks teams to root for and you don't like it so you talk smack about it.

I've been a fan of the Lakers for well over 30 years. I've been a fan of the Yankees for over 25. I've been a fan of the Cowboys for well over 40 years.

I suppose next year I too will be changing teams and picking somebody else right?

Your story, you tell it.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I don't think Washington is a great tactician, but for the most part the players seem to like playing for him.

It's easy to blame Hamilton, but even though he didn't approach the "gargantuan" numbers several folks here thought he would get based on his start to the season, the guy put together a very solid campaign. His deteriment is that he's a "hacker". When things are going well he's taking his cuts and making solid contact. His cold spells are a lot of swinging and missing and not contributing much to the offense.

But this is a lineup that led the AL in runs scored to simply dump on Hamilton as being the big reason the team didn't advance is goofy. Other than a couple of guys, the starting pitching was shaky or injured for a good part of the season.

The team still has a lot of talent but it's going to need some retooling. I don't think the Rangers will re-up Hamilton and if they do, they'll probably cut back somewhere else.

On top of that while they'll be getting the rebuilding Astros in the division next year, the other three teams are going to offer some solid competition.

I don't want Hamilton's attitude to continue on this team. The players like him, but he definitely has a "this team owes me" attitude and I really hate that he only puts forth effort when he feels like it. I don't want any of that rubbing off on our other players. Especially the younger ones.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Are you a Texas Rangers fan? If so, have you not been paying attention?

He's an O's fan.

 

[YosemiteSam]

He's an O's fan.

Well, then Go Yankees! :laugh2:

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't want Hamilton's attitude to continue on this team. The players like him, but he definitely has a "this team owes me" attitude and I really hate that he only puts forth effort when he feels like it. I don't want any of that rubbing off on our other players. Especially the younger ones.

There's probably some of that.

But I think Hamilton has some other (personal) issues that he continually has to deal with.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Are you a Texas Rangers fan? If so, have you not been paying attention?

To just bash Hamilton would indicate a lack of attention to the Rangers.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

He's an O's fan.

Who follows the Rangers as well.

 

[yimyammer]

can someone explain why the wildcard (Baltimore) got to open the series with two games at home? Shouldn't Ny have had the first two in their house? Don't care who wins, I just thought this was strange much like the way the wild card St Louis Cardinals got freaking home field advantage in the world series because the NL won the dang allstar game. I believe that cost the Rangers the title last year.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

can someone explain why the wildcard (Baltimore) got to open the series with two games at home? Shouldn't Ny have had the first two in their house? Don't care who wins, I just thought this was strange much like the way the wild card St Louis Cardinals got freaking home field advantage in the world series because the NL won the dang allstar game. I believe that cost the Rangers the title last year.

For some reason they're doing it this way just this year then it will be 3-2 again next year instead of 2-3. I want to say it has something to do with logistics but not 100% on that.

 

[YosemiteSam]

To just bash Hamilton would indicate a lack of attention to the Rangers.

Just bash Hamilton? I don't just *follow* the Rangers and I don't just *bash* Ranger players. I give most players the benefit of the doubt. If I have something negative to say about a specific player, then that specific player has repeatedly done something to deserve what I said.

I'm a huge Texas Rangers fan and have been since way back in the early 80s. (I remember Buddy Bell playing 3rd base in old Arlington Stadium) I am not like some fans. I don't just immediately bash and call for the heads of players because of a single mistake or bad game.

I'm not calling for the Rangers to not try and resign him, but I don't want them to go for more than 3-5 years max length on his contract and not much more than $100M. I would give him more money per year on a 3 year contract than I would on a 5 year. I definitely don't want the Rangers to sign him for more than 5 years and would prefer a 3 year contract.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

New hitting coach? Was that really a problem?

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121019&content_id=39937686&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

 

[YosemiteSam]

New hitting coach? Was that really a problem?

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121019&content_id=39937686&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

There was an offensive drop off across the board vs 2011. That said, it should be some what understandable since the Rangers were #1 offensively for the last two years. They only dropped to #2 this last season, but what stood out is the extreme drop off at the end of the season, but not only that. Players like Hamilton spent what four months and never recovered.

I don't think Coobaugh was fired for the final numbers, but more for the fact that he couldn't reignite the offense when it faltered basically for four straight months. (that is even beyond Hamilton's failure)

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It will be interesting to see what the Rangers do.

They "only" have $86 mil committed to payroll for 2013.

But they only have 11 guys signed. The rest are free agents or arbitration eligible.

Last season their payroll was $120 mil.

 

[juck]

Another Bat to replace Hamilton another high end pitcher

 

[RastaRocket]

Thank you Michael Young for everything you've brought to the Texas Rangers organization.

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[Tusan_Homichi]

Sounds like Greinke is going to the Dodgers. Fail.