The bad habit of running it back with the same people and same strategy

[DandyDon52]

Why did it take so long for Dowdle to become the bell cow?

jerry wanted elliot to be the main guy.

 

[Blackrain]

They sure have a hot hand right now. Amazing that they are playing so well with backups and Lamb playing hurt.

There's no hot hand there's effort and there's lack of effort and what is amazing is when we have our starters and most expensive players on the field we have much less effort and our head coach is unable to get those players to give full effort.
Conversely when you have backup players on the field that are trying to prove themselves they are giving 110% all the time and it shows as we're beating playoff teams that need wins.

So what does this tell you for the big picture there's no hot hand it tells you our coach is unable to motivate the veterans in big moments to play to their potential and what we're going through now proves it positive.

You need to change the coaching and the culture so you can get your most talented players to play to their potential then you have a chance to succeed in the playoffs until then you're still in a holding pattern just circling the wagons

 

[Chasing6]

One of the many bad things about having your owner also serve as your GM is the really, really bad habit of keeping the same people around that have never done much in the playoffs when they had the chance.

Our owner falls in love with all the decisions and draft picks his GM makes, even when those people have accomplished very little when It mattered most. Then follows that up with the same people and same roster strategy that got you nowhere in the playoffs…again.

In short, why keep the same cast of key players and coaches when they collectively have done very little to make the Cowboys even close to a championship? Why is it so important to keep the same players and coaches who have accomplished almost nothing in the playoffs?

”Running it back” with the same key people and expecting different results is the habit of unaccountable leaders. They take few risks and would rather stick with what they feel safe with than be aggressive to get better. We’ve seen this with Tony Romo, Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, Jason Garrett, and now Mike McCarthy.

Let me make a couple of clarifications. Tony Romo and Dak Prescott have been good QBs. Not great but good enough IF and I mean a HUGE IF…you surround them with the right roster support. Our FO is apparently incapable of understanding this. Neither of those QBs have ever been capable of strapping a team on its back and winning playoff games by themselves. NEWS FLASH: Unless you are Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow, that’s mostly true about every NFL QB. And Mahomes wouldn’t have won the SB last year without that great KC defense.

So when this past off-season came along after the worst playoff loss in Cowboys history, I hoped our front office would wake up and say, “I’m tired of being good enough to make the playoffs and then accomplish nothing. We need a new approach.“

I had hoped they would fire McCarthy, let Dak’s contract expire, see if they could draft or trade for a different QB when it seemed clear the window for Dak to lead this team was closing. By the way, I’m not “anti-Dak” - I think the people saying he’s garbage are blinded by how much money he makes or are just so frustrated by the team’s failure, he becomes the focus. He’s good but just not a great QB and needs a strong running game to be most effective.

Unless I’m not seeing clearly, this front office is headed toward another “run it back“ with mostly the same key people that have given us 1 wild card playoff win in 5 years. Why should we expect any different results next year?

But if you pay your stars more money they will be better right.

 

[Diehardblues]

What do you think the Eagles are? Are they a more elite team?

We didn’t beat them.

 

[rambo2]

We didn’t beat them.

What do you expect this week?

 

[rambo2]

There's no hot hand there's effort and there's lack of effort and what is amazing is when we have our starters and most expensive players on the field we have much less effort and our head coach is unable to get those players to give full effort.
Conversely when you have backup players on the field that are trying to prove themselves they are giving 110% all the time and it shows as we're beating playoff teams that need wins.

So what does this tell you for the big picture there's no hot hand it tells you our coach is unable to motivate the veterans in big moments to play to their potential and what we're going through now proves it positive.

You need to change the coaching and the culture so you can get your most talented players to play to their potential then you have a chance to succeed in the playoffs until then you're still in a holding pattern just circling the wagons

The big picture is they are much better with Parsons and now the defense is playing as a unit.

 

[AyeAtey]

Because "we're" fans, make that insane fans.

Past performance, like 30 years ago, does not guarantee future like results.

 

[CWR]

One of the many bad things about having your owner also serve as your GM is the really, really bad habit of keeping the same people around that have never done much in the playoffs when they had the chance.

Our owner falls in love with all the decisions and draft picks his GM makes, even when those people have accomplished very little when It mattered most. Then follows that up with the same people and same roster strategy that got you nowhere in the playoffs…again.

In short, why keep the same cast of key players and coaches when they collectively have done very little to make the Cowboys even close to a championship? Why is it so important to keep the same players and coaches who have accomplished almost nothing in the playoffs?

”Running it back” with the same key people and expecting different results is the habit of unaccountable leaders. They take few risks and would rather stick with what they feel safe with than be aggressive to get better. We’ve seen this with Tony Romo, Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, Jason Garrett, and now Mike McCarthy.

Let me make a couple of clarifications. Tony Romo and Dak Prescott have been good QBs. Not great but good enough IF and I mean a HUGE IF…you surround them with the right roster support. Our FO is apparently incapable of understanding this. Neither of those QBs have ever been capable of strapping a team on its back and winning playoff games by themselves. NEWS FLASH: Unless you are Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow, that’s mostly true about every NFL QB. And Mahomes wouldn’t have won the SB last year without that great KC defense.

So when this past off-season came along after the worst playoff loss in Cowboys history, I hoped our front office would wake up and say, “I’m tired of being good enough to make the playoffs and then accomplish nothing. We need a new approach.“

I had hoped they would fire McCarthy, let Dak’s contract expire, see if they could draft or trade for a different QB when it seemed clear the window for Dak to lead this team was closing. By the way, I’m not “anti-Dak” - I think the people saying he’s garbage are blinded by how much money he makes or are just so frustrated by the team’s failure, he becomes the focus. He’s good but just not a great QB and needs a strong running game to be most effective.

Unless I’m not seeing clearly, this front office is headed toward another “run it back“ with mostly the same key people that have given us 1 wild card playoff win in 5 years. Why should we expect any different results next year?

100%, couldn't agree more on all accounts. It's always nice to see a rational post on here, instead of the hyperbolic nonsense.

 

[CWR]

The big picture is they are much better with Parsons and now the defense is playing as a unit.

For a man who doesn't know he wants to coach again next season. That may be a massive problem, if we retain MM.

 

[Praxit]

One of the many bad things about having your owner also serve as your GM is the really, really bad habit of keeping the same people around that have never done much in the playoffs when they had the chance.

Our owner falls in love with all the decisions and draft picks his GM makes, even when those people have accomplished very little when It mattered most. Then follows that up with the same people and same roster strategy that got you nowhere in the playoffs…again.

In short, why keep the same cast of key players and coaches when they collectively have done very little to make the Cowboys even close to a championship? Why is it so important to keep the same players and coaches who have accomplished almost nothing in the playoffs?

”Running it back” with the same key people and expecting different results is the habit of unaccountable leaders. They take few risks and would rather stick with what they feel safe with than be aggressive to get better. We’ve seen this with Tony Romo, Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, Jason Garrett, and now Mike McCarthy.

Let me make a couple of clarifications. Tony Romo and Dak Prescott have been good QBs. Not great but good enough IF and I mean a HUGE IF…you surround them with the right roster support. Our FO is apparently incapable of understanding this. Neither of those QBs have ever been capable of strapping a team on its back and winning playoff games by themselves. NEWS FLASH: Unless you are Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow, that’s mostly true about every NFL QB. And Mahomes wouldn’t have won the SB last year without that great KC defense.

So when this past off-season came along after the worst playoff loss in Cowboys history, I hoped our front office would wake up and say, “I’m tired of being good enough to make the playoffs and then accomplish nothing. We need a new approach.“

I had hoped they would fire McCarthy, let Dak’s contract expire, see if they could draft or trade for a different QB when it seemed clear the window for Dak to lead this team was closing. By the way, I’m not “anti-Dak” - I think the people saying he’s garbage are blinded by how much money he makes or are just so frustrated by the team’s failure, he becomes the focus. He’s good but just not a great QB and needs a strong running game to be most effective.

Unless I’m not seeing clearly, this front office is headed toward another “run it back“ with mostly the same key people that have given us 1 wild card playoff win in 5 years. Why should we expect any different results next year?

...I hear ya, Bullet. Whatever the outcome is, lets hope less injuries and better players for 25'.

Get that feeling MM might be back. So in saying that, and looking at glass half full. At least we dont have clapper anymore and his default 8-8 seasons.

 

[XXLMike]

The New York Rangers are a case in point of what you were talking about.
They went to the Stanley Cup conference finals last year final four or two games short of going to the finals.

They ran it back

Right now they are an S show.

Whenever the ultimate goal is not reached with a veteran group, you need to then dismantle all of it and add younger better pieces.

 

[McCarthyMustGo]

Quinn took the Falcons to the Super Bowl as a head coach.

Yes and he blew a 25 point lead

 

[atlantacowboy]

Jerry pretty much made the decision to "run it back" when he signed Prescott. I'm not even convinced it matters who coaches. It's Jerry's roster. We are going to be running this back for the next 3-4 years.

 

[McCarthyMustGo]

Other than it hasnt worked in 30 years, its a great strategy.

Been that long wow. I remember thinking about the 70s teams when the 90s teams won their superbowls

 

[GoCowboysGo]

One of the many bad things about having your owner also serve as your GM is the really, really bad habit of keeping the same people around that have never done much in the playoffs when they had the chance.

Our owner falls in love with all the decisions and draft picks his GM makes, even when those people have accomplished very little when It mattered most. Then follows that up with the same people and same roster strategy that got you nowhere in the playoffs…again.

In short, why keep the same cast of key players and coaches when they collectively have done very little to make the Cowboys even close to a championship? Why is it so important to keep the same players and coaches who have accomplished almost nothing in the playoffs?

”Running it back” with the same key people and expecting different results is the habit of unaccountable leaders. They take few risks and would rather stick with what they feel safe with than be aggressive to get better. We’ve seen this with Tony Romo, Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, Jason Garrett, and now Mike McCarthy.

Let me make a couple of clarifications. Tony Romo and Dak Prescott have been good QBs. Not great but good enough IF and I mean a HUGE IF…you surround them with the right roster support. Our FO is apparently incapable of understanding this. Neither of those QBs have ever been capable of strapping a team on its back and winning playoff games by themselves. NEWS FLASH: Unless you are Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow, that’s mostly true about every NFL QB. And Mahomes wouldn’t have won the SB last year without that great KC defense.

So when this past off-season came along after the worst playoff loss in Cowboys history, I hoped our front office would wake up and say, “I’m tired of being good enough to make the playoffs and then accomplish nothing. We need a new approach.“

I had hoped they would fire McCarthy, let Dak’s contract expire, see if they could draft or trade for a different QB when it seemed clear the window for Dak to lead this team was closing. By the way, I’m not “anti-Dak” - I think the people saying he’s garbage are blinded by how much money he makes or are just so frustrated by the team’s failure, he becomes the focus. He’s good but just not a great QB and needs a strong running game to be most effective.

Unless I’m not seeing clearly, this front office is headed toward another “run it back“ with mostly the same key people that have given us 1 wild card playoff win in 5 years. Why should we expect any different results next year?

100%

 

[Blackrain]

The big picture is they are much better with Parsons and now the defense is playing as a unit.

That's just a part of it there's much more to it than that the offensive line is 100% better and we are able to run the ball.

With Rush at quarterback no longer do we see CD lamb pouting on the sidelines.
He's giving 100% effort and playing hurt.
Guys are making the tough catches the effort is evident.

Trust me the addition of Micah Parsons back from injury did not transform the whole team.

Guys besides Micah are clawing and scratching for the ball like they're in the Super bowl not meaningless games in a blown season.

 

[rambo2]

That's just a part of it there's much more to it than that the offensive line is 100% better and we are able to run the ball.

With Rush at quarterback no longer do we see CD lamb pouting on the sidelines.
He's giving 100% effort and playing hurt.
Guys are making the tough catches the effort is evident.

Trust me the addition of Micah Parsons back from injury did not transform the whole team.

Guys besides Micah are clawing and scratching for the ball like they're in the Super bowl not meaningless games in a blown season.

It's a great thing to see.

 

[Blackrain]

It's a great thing to see.

100% agree with you there it's some good football to watch.

If we could just crack the code and figure out how to get the most out of our most talented players and at least have a coach that could have our most talented players on the field.
Instead we have Jerry setting the roster with the guys he drafted and his favorites Zeke Zack Martin guyton.

It actually took guys to get injured or play so bad that there was nothing you could do but make a change to get the best players on the field.
Problem was the Barn door got closed after the horse was gone and the season was smoked.

Can't have a coach that gutless that he doesn't fight to put the best players on the field.

The offensive line and running game we have now could have definitely been the difference between making the playoffs and just missing them.

And Cooper Rush reminds me of those old Rocky movies where he gets punched around the ring somehow gets up off the canvas and wins the fight in the end.

 

[Blackrain]

It really wouldn't have taken that much imagine if we fielded the offensive line we have now and picked up either Derrick Henry or saquon Barkley along with a top-notch defensive tackle in free agency.
Played a little hard ball and didn't cave to Martin and got rid of him when he was holding out along with not resigning DAk this year.
Letting him walk after this injury and drafting a quarterback.

A few well-planned moves could have had us in the playoffs this year and in the driver seat for years to come but instead we failed to plan and now we are behind the eight ball for the foreseeable future.

 

[john van brocklin]

One of the many bad things about having your owner also serve as your GM is the really, really bad habit of keeping the same people around that have never done much in the playoffs when they had the chance.

Our owner falls in love with all the decisions and draft picks his GM makes, even when those people have accomplished very little when It mattered most. Then follows that up with the same people and same roster strategy that got you nowhere in the playoffs…again.

In short, why keep the same cast of key players and coaches when they collectively have done very little to make the Cowboys even close to a championship? Why is it so important to keep the same players and coaches who have accomplished almost nothing in the playoffs?

”Running it back” with the same key people and expecting different results is the habit of unaccountable leaders. They take few risks and would rather stick with what they feel safe with than be aggressive to get better. We’ve seen this with Tony Romo, Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, Jason Garrett, and now Mike McCarthy.

Let me make a couple of clarifications. Tony Romo and Dak Prescott have been good QBs. Not great but good enough IF and I mean a HUGE IF…you surround them with the right roster support. Our FO is apparently incapable of understanding this. Neither of those QBs have ever been capable of strapping a team on its back and winning playoff games by themselves. NEWS FLASH: Unless you are Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow, that’s mostly true about every NFL QB. And Mahomes wouldn’t have won the SB last year without that great KC defense.

So when this past off-season came along after the worst playoff loss in Cowboys history, I hoped our front office would wake up and say, “I’m tired of being good enough to make the playoffs and then accomplish nothing. We need a new approach.“

I had hoped they would fire McCarthy, let Dak’s contract expire, see if they could draft or trade for a different QB when it seemed clear the window for Dak to lead this team was closing. By the way, I’m not “anti-Dak” - I think the people saying he’s garbage are blinded by how much money he makes or are just so frustrated by the team’s failure, he becomes the focus. He’s good but just not a great QB and needs a strong running game to be most effective.

Unless I’m not seeing clearly, this front office is headed toward another “run it back“ with mostly the same key people that have given us 1 wild card playoff win in 5 years. Why should we expect any different results next year?

Nope, we will not make any bold moves.
We don't know how to think outside the box.
This team is doomed until we get new leadership.