News: The Dallas Cowboys are in love with Kyle Pitts and have spoken to him already

[Jake]

We could be like the old Air Coryell Chargers teams with Dan Fouts. Worst case they would be fun to watch.

This was fun to watch.

 

[Jipper]

Oh, I think it absolutely matters. Again, this is a deep WR draft. I think there will be plenty of quality vet WRs or younger WRs that can be had. You don't need to spend another 1st round pick on a Receiver, be it WR or TE.

I mean, what exactly does that get us?

i think were saying the same thing....my point is i don't think that gallop gets resigned next year if another team is paying him #1 money because hes not worth that to the cowboys.

I also don't want us to sign a TE at 10 (or sooner) given the needs we have and the already decent TE set we have and i would be happy if we picked up a WR in the 4th/5th

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

i think were saying the same thing....my point is i don't think that gallop gets resigned next year if another team is paying him #1 money because hes not worth that to the cowboys.

I also don't want us to sign a TE at 10 (or sooner) given the needs we have and the already decent TE set we have and i would be happy if we picked up a WR in the 4th/5th

Yeah, I think you are right. Honestly, the only Offensive pick that I could justify is a LT. That, I could see but other then that, I think it would be hard to see the wisdom.

 

[Bowdown27]

If you go by the draft value chart (yes, it's not totally accurate), you are probably looking at trading a 3rd to move up two spots. The issue would then become if Pitts falls, there could be a bidding war to move up to 8, let's say, and then the price could end up being a 2nd.

I just can't justify spending a 1st and 2nd round pick on a TE. Now if the dipwads in the front office had done a better job in FA, it might make this more palatable.

I’m with you. To move up to 4. It’s a first this and next a second and possibly third. If moving up to 7-8. That’s not bad but agreed that’s too much when we have multiple issues on defense

 

[morasp]

This was fun to watch.

Oh yeah that too, it's been so long I almost forgot about that.

 

[Typhus]

Come on, you are reading the same thread I am. If it wasn't you who said first, you know somebody did and again, if it wasn't you, then the "or whatever part" was for you. So lets hear it, what is a team gonna trade for Gallup? What is a team who would have to trade for him this year, going to trade us? Keep in mind, one of the deepest WR drafts in recent history, lots of young WRs available going 5 rounds deep this year. That means a lot of teams are going to be looking to get younger and that also means a lot of experienced WRs are going to be looking for jobs. So what do you honestly think we could get for Gallup? Keep in mind, this would have to happen before the draft for us to get any help this year with other young players. If not, then it's next years picks we are talking about, or later.

You just misread the post, go back an reread it.

 

[AsthmaField]

If we do jump up to get him, Jerry needs to redo Coopers deal and get some impact defensive players.

I don’t doubt that the plan is that, or very close to it. If they move up for Pitts, they probably redo a contract or two and then bring in a vet CB at least.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You just misread the post, go back an reread it.

I don't think I misread anything but, could be. The issue, it seems to me, is on the term "Cut". Now, I understand that. Allow him to walk, trade, whatever else, that's just a term but the point is, it's still a cost that you can't afford. If we were to draft this Kid, Gallup is as good as gone. So, now we come to the part where a trade was discussed around this plan. Nobody is giving up a 1st for Gallup IMO because of the situation in play this year. So I think that what this comes down to is, do we sink costs into a TE who will likely not help you much in terms of scoring, there is only one Football, and if you do that, how do you equate that to more success for the team? The points scored are not the problem IMO. The other side of that, of course, is that you get this guy and you hope he helps the redzone scoring. Well, Redzone scoring has been a problem for awhile. It's not just last season so we've been dealing with this for some time. I just don't see the problem as Offense for us. Even with poor Redzone numbers, in 2019, we averaged over 27 points a game. Last year, with all of the things we had going on, we averaged over 24. I think that with an improved OL, that number probably gets back up to around 27 or better but the real problem with Redzone is not a lack of targets. Dak has a lot of talent to work with. I don't think more helps. If you want to improve our OL, that would have a much bigger effect IMO. If you want to improve the Defense, that would go a long way to help the team.

I think you can pick up a good WR to replace Gallup later in the Draft or go out and sign a Vet that will be out there. Heck, maybe we are able to leverage the situation to sign Gallup to a nice deal, IDK, but I doubt it. I just don't see how Pitts helps much.

I would also suggest that people go back and look at how McCarthy has used TEs in his Offense in the past. A lot of our fans think that if you draft that guy, he becomes a focal point. But I don't really see that happening. CD is not catching fewer balls. Coop is still the best over all receiving threat we have. We still have carries that are going to go to Zeke. We haven't really figured out how best to get Pollard enough touches. I just don't see how Pitts comes here and really improves a lot.

But if I'm wrong, if I've missed something, then OK. I'm open to understanding what I don't understand or what I've missed.

 

[Sheepherder]

Remember what Jerry has consistently said since he bought the Cowboys. The NFL is a business and in Jerry's case, a family business. The Cowboys are the statement team for the NFL and Jerry likes that.

Patriots owner

Remember what Jerry has consistently said since he bought the Cowboys. The NFL is a business and in Jerry's case, a family business. The Cowboys are the statement team for the NFL and Jerry likes that.

Quote from Robert Kraft:But we're not in the business to be in business.We're in this business to win.

 

[Jason 82 Witten]

Just saw the Falcons were targeting Pitts

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Oh yeah that too, it's been so long I almost forgot about that.

LOL, yes a LLLOOONNNGGG time.

 

[JonesBoys]

Shoot. If you think he’s a Calvin Johnson like I do, you absolutely consider trading up for him.

What did the Lions win with Calvin Johnson? Cowboys need to have a better defense and stop being one dimensional. If the offense doesn’t score more than 30 than they will lose. That’s too much to expect out of one unit the entire year and especially in the playoffs. If Pitts falls than sure but to trade up when they need those picks for the defense? That would be a mistake.

 

[speedkilz88]

I'm thinking this is a smoke screen. With Vander Esch's option not renewed, I wouldn't be surprised if they take parsons.

That decision hasn't been made. They have until May 3

 

[Melonfeud]

I don't know if that's ever been true.

*,,,Er,,, didn't Ol' Jerral Wayne once sell shoes outta' the trunk of his car?

 

[SiCk_DiAbLo]

I absolutely disagree. If he falls to us, then he's probably going to easily be the best available player and I can't blame the team for not passing on him. Otherwise, we need defense, defense, defense. And giving up extra picks to get Pitts is not going to get that for us.

Sure, he may be a generational talent, but we had a Hall of Famer roaming the field at that position for years and that still didn't get us to the Super Bowl because our defense was subpar.

With Pitts, at least we can score more points...

 

[DoctorChicken]

What did the Lions win with Calvin Johnson? Cowboys need to have a better defense and stop being one dimensional. If the offense doesn’t score more than 30 than they will lose. That’s too much to expect out of one unit the entire year and especially in the playoffs. If Pitts falls than sure but to trade up when they need those picks for the defense? That would be a mistake.

I posted this earlier https://cowboyszone.com/threads/the...en-to-him-already.476163/page-8#post-10902558

it’s not as simple as “our defense was bad, so we have to go defense in the first round”

Ask the Lions if they’d pick Calvin Johnson again in hindsight. Of course they would. Darrell Revis arguably ended being the best defensive player from the draft, and he wouldn’t have won a Super Bowl with Detroit either.

I like to think if Belichick was coach... if he thought Pitts was a HOF talent like many NFL guys are thinking, would he take Pitts or some position that’s a bigger need?

Belichick would take the better prospect, and find a way to figure out the need later.

 

[gimmesix]

With Pitts, at least we can score more points...

There are only so many possessions in a game. If you're scoring and your defense can't stop them from scoring, then it's going to come down to whoever has the ball last. You win in those situations if your defense can stop the other team.

 

[Bullflop]

I think we're likely just doing due diligence, rather than considering drastically moving up to draft Pitts. We need to be conservative and do what we can to maximize the talent that our 10 picks may provide. Improving the defense, as dire need requires us to, should be our first priority.

 

[LittleD]

Now that would be crazy.

I don't think you can validate 2 1's for anything but a QB or an established NFL Left Tackle.

I'll bet Brady didn't say that about Gronk? Pitts is almost a sure thing for All Pro & HOF if he stays healthy.

 

[LittleD]

I think a guy like Surtain is a great CB prospect. Its just that the QB's and WR's and Pitts are getting all the hype in this draft so they are being overlooked. I also think Parsons is a very good prospect. Just what you want at MLB. Guy ran a 4.39 40.

If we have a chance to take the #1 or #2 defender in this draft at 10, its a gift. Im glad all these offensive players are getting overhyped.

Half these QB's will bust, Waddle is 5-10 and 180?

Surtain is not as good as Horn and was never as good as Farley before the operation. Farley may still have the better career.