The End of Escobar

[Bleu Star]

I see the title "The End of Escobar" and wonder to myself.. was there ever a beginning?

 

[Bleu Star]

Narcos on Netflix is a hellava show...

You're so crafty.

I agree btw. Can't wait til season 2 drops!

 

[dogunwo]

Time for us to move on from the 2 to be honest

LOL. Drive by trolling. You been doing a lot of that lately.

 

[Zekeats]

100 percent agree. And yet, Garrett is the common denominator. He was here under Wade, hes been here since. Its disgusting how good our offense could be with some creativity.

What is this creativity you speak of?

 

[mattjames2010]

Yay, more Jason "One Yard Short" Witten!

I think Hunter Henry would fit our offense well and is the only TE that could push Witten for playing time. If he's there in the second, as much as people don't want to hear it, it would be tough to pass on him.

 

[Frozen700]

LOL. Drive by trolling. You been doing a lot of that lately.

What's up my boy

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Not sure how it is a fan idea. This front office has been talking about it since 2006.

As in a fan fantasy of the two WRs and two TEs and, yes, a slot, to drive defenses crazy. Bloke, we fans even fantasize about the statue of liberty play and the ball under the jersey trick LOL, chap.
And if the FO has been talking about it since 2006, then maybe it is an idea or fantasy!

Yes, yes, reality intrudes and we only see plain vanilla these days.
Old fellow, don't be so literal. It is the off season. Rugby trials and winter rowing are in season, so off you go and be a good lad and you let me dream about 5-receiver sets LOL

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Why the three yard route comment. What is Witten's career YPC? If you want to complain about his lack of breaking tackles then I'm in agreement. Most people wouldn't complain about a first ballot HOFer TE who is also a model citizen.

Escobar tore his Achilles. Not good. He may not have been used properly and that's my opinion. But there may be reasons why he never got into the offense besides he or the coaches suck. IDK and no one here knows for certain either.

Tsk, tsk, chap. Talking up a rapidly aging veteran and castng aspersions on a young lad who is injured? That is the trouble around here: always in the past.
As for the HOF ...maybe. 1st ballot?
Sit down, old fellow. You will feel better later.

 

[jobberone]

Tsk, tsk, chap. Talking up a rapidly aging veteran and castng aspersions on a young lad who is injured? That is the trouble around here: always in the past.
As for the HOF ...maybe. 1st ballot?
Sit down, old fellow. You will feel better later.

What aspersions?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Pretty furious at the lack of effort to involve Escobar into this system. Escobar is now coming off an ACL injury, so my guess is not only does he miss the entire offseason program, he probably misses the first half of the season next year, and even then probably doesn't evolve beyond what he has done so far.

You can't just blame the player, they did the same thing with Martellus Bennett and he flourished in New York and Chicago, becoming one of the most dominant tight ends in the NFL. I would argue that right now he is probably a superior player, as he is a better blocker than Witten.

Fasano, and Chandler have also had relatively successful careers outside of Dallas as well.

We simply never focused on getting that second tight end involved, and knowing that we weren't going to do that, we kept spending 2nd round picks on them.

Imagine the players we could have brought in, in the 2nd round instead of these tight ends... and no this is not hindsight. This goes to a complete lack of vision by the front office and coaching staff.

bennett flourished in NY and Chicago...wow...that's why they worked so hard to keep him. he was so good, and indispensable that they had to throw the bank at him and keep him.'

Bennett wasn't all that. he had one good season with Chicago. end of story. lets stop just blaming the coaches and look at the players. Bennett was a head case. escobar is soft. end of story. bad scouting. bad draft picks.

don't even get me started on chandler and fasano none of whom were good enough to be kept anywhere. they were, 3rd tier type TEs when nobody else was available, team picked them to fill a hole and then draft their replacements....'

come on....stop it.

 

[Wolfpack]

They use the two TE set a fair bit. Gavin was on the field for a lot of plays this year. Mostly in a shotgun 3wr 2 TE formation that they passes out of 95% of the time. The advantage of a two TE set is the threat of running which opens up the miss match of an athletic TE vs a LB. The Dallas offensive is so predicable that you know what they are going to do before they do it. When they do run out of the two TE set its 80% under center and tells the defense what is coming. It's been a trade mark for years. Sturm outlines this every week. It's bad coaching.

 

[Hoofbite]

No way he is ready for camp. I would be stunned.

Never know. His role on the team doesn't ask much more than for him to sit on the bench. I think he can be prepared to do that for training camp.

 

[Galian Beast]

Never know. His role on the team doesn't ask much more than for him to sit on the bench. I think he can be prepared to do that for training camp.

My point is he isn't going to evolve in this offense, and as a free agent at the end of the season he isn't staying, and as a result, his investment was worthless.

 

[Bullflop]

My point is he isn't going to evolve in this offense, and as a free agent at the end of the season he isn't staying, and as a result, his investment was worthless.

Sad but more than likely true.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Escobar will be right back on the Dallas bench in 2016. They will draft their new bench fixture at TE next year.

Isnt it amazing how for 7 years now, they have continue to draft the replacement for Witten with multiple 2nd round picks? But they refuse to draft the replacement for Romo. If anything, Witten is the more physically stronger of the two. Mystifying to say the least.

 

[Galian Beast]

Isnt it amazing how for 7 years now, they have continue to draft the replacement for Witten with multiple 2nd round picks? But they refuse to draft the replacement for Romo. If anything, Witten is the more physically stronger of the two. Mystifying to say the least.

I think you've conflated a few things here.

First they weren't looking for a replacement for Witten, they were look for a complement to implement a 2 tight end system. As for physical strength, that has nothing to do with it. Witten plays a role in which he needs to beat defenders, Romo isn't breaking tackles or out running people. The comparison is without value.

 

[jazzcat22]

Only if they put the same effort into drafting a future QB in the 2nd rounds, as they do TE's in the 2nd round....Now that I would be fine in letting them sit and learn....

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think you've conflated a few things here.

First they weren't looking for a replacement for Witten, they were look for a complement to implement a 2 tight end system. As for physical strength, that has nothing to do with it. Witten plays a role in which he needs to beat defenders, Romo isn't breaking tackles or out running people. The comparison is without value.

Witten is a physical specimen, Romo looks like a cook. One you would think could take the pounding, the other, not so much.

And you are probably right, none have been to replace Witten. Sadly enough, that underlines my point. Wasted picks.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

What aspersions?

That was perhaps too strong a word, wasn't it chap? Maybe "casting doubts" would have been a better choice of words as to the gridiron lad Escobar.
I stand partly corrected, bloke!
And, if I may say so, and I will, you continue to do a wonderful job as a mod, old fellow.

 

[RW31]

I thought this thread was about Pablo's final moments.