The Jared Gaither Thread **Merged**

[Hostile]

for me it comes to this: Can Gaither be about as good as the Hotel has been? If the boys staff think so then they should try and make the trade.

Oh and regards castoffs- wasn't Novacek a Cardinal castoff? It has happened many times where a player one team decides to let go
becomes a top player for another team.

I bet you I can name as many players who switched teams and were JAGs as you can name players who switched teams and were studs.

 

[Hostile]

then we'll politely agree to disagree. Hell thats what this board is all about.

But there is only value in the draft if they turn out good. My point is i'd rather have the known commodity.

I feel like we already have 3 starting quality OTs and don't need to over spend on a 4th. The Draft is an easy way to prepare for the future. Why turn our backs on it when it works?

 

[Dough Boy]

so you'd rather take your chances with an unknown quantity than one who has a proven LT track record?

maybe GM's still have questions about his work ethic, so he really is not that proven. can you trust this guy with a big contract. if this guy was a proven franchise LT, then he would be gone by now. I think you have to evaluate Gaither the same as you would a draft pick. He has some upside, the question is whether you think he will realize this said upside. He has talent, but will he get better? That's the question that is keeping this guy on hold. IMO -

 

[gimmesix]

here is some more on gaither

Jared Gaither-T- Ravens Mar. 7 - 1:10 pm et


After assigning him just a first-round tender, the Ravens are believed to be willing to move restricted free agent LT Jared Gaither.

Gaither would've gotten the first- and third-round tender if the Ravens were truly intent on keeping him. The Ravens want to move Michael Oher to left tackle. The Baltimore Sun suggests four possible destinations for Gaither: San Francisco, Indianapolis, Dallas, and Seattle. Teams targeting Gaither could probably work out a deal for less than the first-round pick.
Source: Baltimore Sun
Related: Cowboys, Colts, Seahawks, 49ers

OK, Gaither for a second and something else, and Bethea for a first.

Who needs the draft?

Seriously, I don't know enough about Gaither to have much of an opinion on picking him up. From what I've read, he's a better pass blocker than run blocker, but he has a tendency to play high in his stance some because of his height.

If the Cowboys believe he's worth the pick and better than what they can get with the pick (that being the first-rounder, of course), then I'm for it. Their debate on keeping Adams would end with Adams being shown the door.

I really like the possibility of picking up Bethea better, though, because I don't think any safety we could get at the bottom of the first round is comparable.

 

[Dough Boy]

I bet you I can name as many players who switched teams and were JAGs as you can name players who switched teams and were studs.

Hos,

This I know to be true in football and in life. When you are buying any item from another person, you have to assume that the person selling knows more than you about said 'item'. This is why some over pay for JAGs. The seller knows more.

 

[unionjack8]

I feel like we already have 3 starting quality OTs and don't need to over spend on a 4th. The Draft is an easy way to prepare for the future. Why turn our backs on it when it works?

But is see this as the last hurrah for both Flo & Colombo.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Or you can put Free at LT and draft a RT later in the draft.

Or you can draft a LT and put Free on the other side.

See, this is where I don't get it.

I do not see the difference is drafting Bruce Campbell in the first and trading a first for Gaither.

Just using simple logic, would you rather have a LT that has been proven and seen what the NFL is like or some Rookie that could be a complete bust.

There is absolutely no bust factor on Gaither. The dude is a stud.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

so you'd rather take your chances with an unknown quantity than one who has a proven LT track record?

The ravens felt that way and that is why they drafted Oher to replace Gaither at LT.

Seems like other teams must feel the same as Gaither is still sitting there.

 

[gimmesix]

Hos,

This I know to be true in football and in life. When you are buying any item from another person, you have to assume that the person selling knows more than you about said 'item'. This is why some over pay for JAGs. The seller knows more.

Dallas was careful last off-season in picking up free agents with whom its coaches had a history.

Olshansky and Brooking with Phillips.

Sensabaugh with Campo, DeCamillis

I think it's at least partly for the very reason you mention. They know the players' work ethic, how they are in the locker room, etc. You can ruin a good team by bringing in a few bad apples.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

The ravens felt that way and that is why they drafted Oher to replace Gaither at LT.

Seems like other teams must feel the same as Gaither is still sitting there.

Well look what your doing. You wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole because of what other teams arn't doing.

Your cautious of getting him because so many teams are thinking the same way your thinking.

When Brooking was a FA,why didnt the 31 other teams pounce on him? I mean..if he was so great why was he available

Gawd I hate Mickey Spags

 

[thor_01]

The ravens felt that way and that is why they drafted Oher to replace Gaither at LT.

Seems like other teams must feel the same as Gaither is still sitting there.

I really like Campbell, and if I thought there would be any thing worth getting at 27 I wouldnt take a chance on Gaither or Bethea, but just dont see the value being there when we pick............

 

[Hostile]

But is see this as the last hurrah for both Flo & Colombo.

I don't think either one has only 1 year left. Certainly not Columbo. I think we will fortify the OL in this Draft. I don't see the need to panic.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

See, this is where I don't get it.

I do not see the difference is drafting Bruce Campbell in the first and trading a first for Gaither.

Just using simple logic, would you rather have a LT that has been proven and seen what the NFL is like or some Rookie that could be a complete bust.

There is absolutely no bust factor on Gaither. The dude is a stud.

Actually there is a bust factor on Gaither. He has work ethic issues and normally players who have those types of issues wind up getting worse when they get a big fat guaranteed signing bonus.

Also if the guy is such as stud, why did they draft someone to take his spot, why are they getting rid of him and why are no other teams stepped up to trade a 1st rounder for him?

Simple logic would dictate that if he is such a stud they would not draft a high round pick to replace him, and I think move UP to draft him which kind of defeats any BPA argument made. Nor would they give him away and again if he was such a stud why has no team already stepped up and took him?

One other thing to consider. If you draft a player or move a player like Free over you don't have to deal with a player coming in that you know will want a fat new contract like gaither will want. I would imagine he would command more than a 27th, or lower, draft pick would get signed for these days.

So...there are circumstances to be considered...it is not so cut and dry that if Jerry does not trade for him that we need to throw a hissy fit or anything.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Well look what your doing. You wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole because of what other teams arn't doing.

Your cautious of getting him because so many teams are thinking the same way your thinking.

When Brooking was a FA,why didnt the 31 other teams pounce on him? I mean..if he was so great why was he available

Gawd I hate Mickey Spags

Last time I checked we did not run out like chickens with our heads cut off and give a first round draft pick away for Brooking.

If he was a FA i would have no problem with taking him and not looking back...but I get a tad nervous spending a first round pick on the guy.

Come on...you can do better.

 

[Dough Boy]

Dallas was careful last off-season in picking up free agents with whom its coaches had a history.

Olshansky and Brooking with Phillips.

Sensabaugh with Campo, DeCamillis

I think it's at least partly for the very reason you mention. They know the players' work ethic, how they are in the locker room, etc. You can ruin a good team by bringing in a few bad apples.

yup, i'm with you.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I really like Campbell, and if I thought there would be any thing worth getting at 27 I wouldnt take a chance on Gaither or Bethea, but just dont see the value being there when we pick............

Oh don't mistake me for someone that thinks we should draft Campbell. I think he has bust written all over him.

There are a few scenarios I would like to pan out but if they did not, I would trade that pick to the Ravens during the draft.

 

[bayeslife]

See, this is where I don't get it.

I do not see the difference is drafting Bruce Campbell in the first and trading a first for Gaither.

Just using simple logic, would you rather have a LT that has been proven and seen what the NFL is like or some Rookie that could be a complete bust.

There is absolutely no bust factor on Gaither. The dude is a stud.

The difference?

$$$

 

[peplaw06]

Did Gaither not step up to the plate and perform though?

Give him props for being a beast and dominating that left side.

He's given up less sacks than Flo in the last 2 years.

Please try to rebuttle that last point. Please. Oh wait...you can't.

Bye.

I'm positive that I could "rebuttle" your point. If there ever came a time I couldn't "rebuttle" a point coming from you, I'd probably off myself.

Where are you getting your sacks allowed numbers?

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I'm positive that I could "rebuttle" your point. If there ever came a time I couldn't "rebuttle" a point coming from you, I'd probably off myself.

Where are you getting your sacks allowed numbers?

Out my ***.

As usual. You know.

 

[unionjack8]

The ravens felt that way and that is why they drafted Oher to replace Gaither at LT.

Seems like other teams must feel the same as Gaither is still sitting there.

so by your theory not one of the 31 other teams like Miles Austin either cos nobody is "showing" interest.
Dont kid yourself.

And how the hell do you know Oher wasnt drafted to play RT? Its where he was last year.