The Jared Gaither Thread **Merged**

[Dough Boy]

Does Jared Gaither have an injury history dating back to his days in college? Does Jared Gaither have a long history of questionable work ethic dating back to his days in college? Do those two issues go hand in hand? Is it a good idea to simply hand people with questionable work ethic huge contracts?

I am not denying that Gaither is a good tackle. I by no means believe he is as good as he could be. I also believe that Doug Free has all the tools and better intangibles than Gaither does and should be just as good if not better and not miss nearly as much time. Yes, I will continue to believe that.

I would rather keep Flo one more year and the draft pick. In my mind if you make this trade then you have given up on Free at left tackle. I am not ready to do that for Gaither.

I agree with this point of yours. It takes more than talent. See Jason Witten. It takes desire. I think Free has it. Gaither is so young, its hard to imagine what he might become. He could be the best tackle in football. Jonathan Ogden sure things so. Or he could be a bit player. I like Free's desire. That TD run by Felix where Free is 40 yards down field blocking CB... That's what you want right there. I like Free. I thing he can play left or right. But, he will only get better by playing. See Spencer and Jenkins for that point. Free has a lot of upside. I do think Free is more of a left than right tackle and he played right tackle fairly well last season. Got better and better as the season went along.

 

[NeonNinja]

Why? You let Adams and Free battle it out in TC and the best man win. Loser is the backup. If he beats out Columbo then thats fine too. AND you get the draft pick.

If you sign Gaither to a contract like that then you are giving him that spot and giving up on Free. Free made mental mistakes last year I do not recall him ever being physically overmatched even by Allen. He missed an assignment on Allen but Allen didn't beat him straight up.

Yeah, let's pay Flo all of that money for a backup position.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Are we trying to get rid of Miles Austin? Same situation.
I NEVER quoted anything about SACK numbers, you did.
If ytou dont want to trust NFL.COM then go skew your numbers at will mate.

You were attributing sacks to Gaither in games he didn't even play and you quoted the number of penalties you gleaned from there. I do know for example that they will change stats from gameday in subsequent days.

 

[CATCH17]

Why? You let Adams and Free battle it out in TC and the best man win. Loser is the backup. If he beats out Columbo then thats fine too. AND you get the draft pick.

If you sign Gaither to a contract like that then you are giving him that spot and giving up on Free. Free made mental mistakes last year I do not recall him ever being physically overmatched even by Allen. He missed an assignment on Allen but Allen didn't beat him straight up.

You let Adams go because the salary cap is going to come back and he is one of our 4 worst contracts considering his age and years he has left.

Your not giving up on Free at all. You improve our depth at offensive tackle bigtime by letting him be the swing guy.

And he is at worst our RT of the future anyways.





If Dallas wants to keep Flo then the Gaither thing is a non issue but they most likely will want to release him if another option presents itself and Gaither is that option.

No way do we let that position hang in the balance of Doug Free without much more evidence.

 

[casmith07]

Why? You let Adams and Free battle it out in TC and the best man win. Loser is the backup. If he beats out Columbo then thats fine too. AND you get the draft pick.

If you sign Gaither to a contract like that then you are giving him that spot and giving up on Free. Free made mental mistakes last year I do not recall him ever being physically overmatched even by Allen. He missed an assignment on Allen but Allen didn't beat him straight up.

Doug Free blocked 20 yards upfield for Felix Jones.

I rest my case in this thread.

 

[unionjack8]

You were attributing sacks to Gaither in games he didn't even play and you quoted the number of penalties you gleaned from there. I do know for example that they will change stats from gameday in subsequent days.

Incorrect sir. I merely listed a bunch of DE/OLB that he went up against this year. Never mentioned if he gave up or held them sackless. It was in the same quote that i gave you his penalty stats. I was incorrect on one thing, he missed the jared Allen game.

 

[DeaconBlues]

"Next time will not be a freebie. I will put my boots in your faces and wipes the floor with your personal insults and banter. I am watchin yous guys."

It's hard to look manly with that girly ring . . . dahling.


:laugh2:

 

[CATCH17]

Doug Free blocked 20 yards upfield for Felix Jones.

I rest my case in this thread.

And whats the relevancy of this?

 

[unionjack8]

Doug Free blocked 20 yards upfield for Felix Jones.

I rest my case in this thread.

Never saw you present one.

 

[thor_01]

No way Dallas gets both Gaither and Bethea while using a 2nd for Marshall. Gaither and Bethea both have first round tenders, and Dallas only has one first round pick. It is possible (not likely, but possible) that Dallas could negotiate one of the first rounders down to a second, but then that throws your Marshall deal out the window. Personally, I wouldn't want Marshall on the team at any price. However, I am a proponent of using a low first rounder for a young proven commodity.

What part of using the 2011 picks sailed past you, as well as packaging Bennett and a #2 this year for Marshall, maybe you should read before you advise what is possible and not possible............

 

[Idgit]

Idgit comparing me to a ******..cool.

Can't say I can complain after I made a personal attack last night.

I think its funny that because they are in front of a monitor they can be as rude or say whatever they want.

These people are probably little *****es in person.

It's a metaphor dude, and all in fun. I don't think you're ********. Your just working a weird topic like a dog on a bone. FWIW, I'm rude in person, too.

too funny to be true

That story is 100% true, btw. At the time I had a ferret (I know, I was like a mullet-headed Beastmaster at the time) that I let run around the house. One of the times he was describing how he was going to take care of the lion, he was doing it while accidentally stepping on the ferret's tail. He didn't notice it and kept shuffling his feet and stomping on the ferret's tail each time as the ferret thought it was going to get away. Finally the thing turned around and bit his ankle, and he got pissed and started crying and then said he wanted to have it put down; we told him to be thankful it wasn't a lion. He was a nice guy, though, and cool to hang out with because it led to lots of fun stories.

 

[burmafrd]

Gaither has certainly proven much more then Free has. he also started early in his career and Free did not.

 

[Hostile]

I wonder how disappointed people are going to be when we make no move towards Gaither. From the looks of this thread, I'd say apoplectic is quite likely. Personally, if the price were a LOT lower, I'd have no problem with it. None at all. A 2nd round pick is too high given the depth in this Draft. A 1st is beyond too high.

 

[casmith07]

I wonder how disappointed people are going to be when we make no move towards Gaither. From the looks of this thread, I'd say apoplectic is quite likely. Personally, if the price were a LOT lower, I'd have no problem with it. None at all. A 2nd round pick is too high given the depth in this Draft. A 1st is beyond too high.

And with that...we should close the thread!

 

[Eskimo]

I wonder how disappointed people are going to be when we make no move towards Gaither. From the looks of this thread, I'd say apoplectic is quite likely. Personally, if the price were a LOT lower, I'd have no problem with it. None at all. A 2nd round pick is too high given the depth in this Draft. A 1st is beyond too high.

I've always loved that word.

 

[unionjack8]

I wonder how disappointed people are going to be when we make no move towards Gaither. From the looks of this thread, I'd say apoplectic is quite likely. Personally, if the price were a LOT lower, I'd have no problem with it. None at all. A 2nd round pick is too high given the depth in this Draft. A 1st is beyond too high.

yeah , lets take Jared Veldheer in round 2 and PRAY and HOPE he develops into half the player that Gaither is.

I like the player, i'm not gonna cry if he doesnt come here. It appears to me that too many on this board cry if they dont get their own way in a discussion.

The 'boys will move forward as they see fit. I think the discussion was a worthwhile one.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I wonder how disappointed people are going to be when we make no move towards Gaither. From the looks of this thread, I'd say apoplectic is quite likely. Personally, if the price were a LOT lower, I'd have no problem with it. None at all. A 2nd round pick is too high given the depth in this Draft. A 1st is beyond too high.

I was going to ask if the cowboys are even interested their seems to be a lot of hype surrounding this guy it's all for not if they cowboys don't pick up the phone.

 

[peplaw06]

Gaither has certainly proven much more then Free has. he also started early in his career and Free did not.

All that means is that Gaither didn't have a Flozell Adams or Marc Colombo in front of him on the depth chart. Gaither had an "on-his-last-legs" Jonathan Ogden in front of him.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

nevermind

 

[Hostile]

yeah , lets take Jared Veldheer in round 2 and PRAY and HOPE he develops into half the player that Gaither is.

I like the player, i'm not gonna cry if he doesnt come here. It appears to me that too many on this board cry if they dont get their own way in a discussion.

The 'boys will move forward as they see fit. I think the discussion was a worthwhile one.

Can I ask you one question and get a serious answer?