The Jason Garrett Play Calling Thread *Merged*

[Chocolate Lab]

What's so frustrating to me is that either Wade refuses to say anything to Garrett about emphasizing the run or Garrett simply doesn't listen. Wade has said on several occasions during his pressers how we have to run the ball more, how we have to get Choice more involved (in our regular running game because those comments came after Choice was running the ball out of regular formations in KC) and then come game time, nada.

Further, as a DC, I'm sure he is keenly aware of TOP and how that would help his D.

I hate to say it, but I think this is Jerry's co-head-coach system at work. Wade obviously knows this -- sorry to say it again, but it's why he wanted Dan Reeves -- but Jason apparently has autonomy over his side of the ball.

Anyway, good post to the OP. When people would say in the offseason that "We don't run more because we aren't good at it", I would say that if you let that big OL fire off the ball and hit people in the mouth all day instead of playing from their heels like they do all game long either pass blocking or faking pass blocking, they'd immediately become better run blockers. And that's coming from a former CB, but even I know how those big guys think!

What I thought you were going to say was that there's something fundamentally wrong with our blitz protection schemes. It sure looks like it to me.

I've also consistently wondered the same thing Captain America said, about where Garrett got his odd love of the shotgun and the tricky when he learned under Norv, who has the most basic-looking -- but effective -- system you'll ever see.

And finally... Percy, stop depressing me.

 

[EPL0c0]

why.. why so many . why does it seem like some games his play calling is reverse of what common sense would tell most men to do.

versus an aggressive pass rush, the screen can often work well enough to pull defenses back.

It worked well last week versus the Philly pass rush. BUT...Dom Capers just out-coached Jason Garrett. His defense played aggressive; they blitzed, BUT their guys were also very much aware of the possibility of a screen and never really over committed to many guys to the pass rush, instead relying on 1 or 2 blitzers instead.

Their sacks didn't come from the defensive line, they came from a CB, a FS, an OLB and a MLB.

Garrett did not adjust to this plan by the defense. It doesn't help to call plays that require the QB to wait for a receiver to run a long route either.

 

[the truth of it all]

nothing against ogletree.After what he did with them last week id like to see only him felix and choice doing them here no out.. Our team came out flat today plain and simple even with an outstanding gameplan not sure we wouldve won.

but more often than not it seems garrets playcalling has killed us when it matters the past two seasons.... red flag.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Tecmo needs to put down the freaking Playstation controller and get his head in the game.

Seriously, the game looked like it was being called by somebody playing Madden. We had like 85% pass plays on the road???

W T F ????

 

[Wezsh0T]

I want the Cowboys to run the ball just as much as anyone else, but I don't think we can exactly hang not running the ball on Garrett this time. The down and distances we were facing due to taking sacks actually negated our ability to run. This comes from Rafael Vela at http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2009/11/15/1158839/drowning-in-a-vat-of-whey-packers#storyjump

First Half

Series one -- two rushes, 20 yards;
Series two -- three rushes, 8 yards;
Series three -- one 1st down rush for 2 yards. Romo sacked on 2nd, taking the run option away on 3rd;
Series four -- two rushes for 3 yards. Choice is two feet short on a 3rd-and-4 draw;

Series five -- no rushes; Roy Williams fumbles on drive's only play;
Series six -- Romo is sacked on 1st down, putting Dallas in 2nd and long. No rushes;

Second Half

Series one - Barber rushes on 1st for no gain. Romo sacked on 2nd down;
Series two -- Choice runs once for 11 yards; Williams and Witten bungle the drive on subsequent plays. (see above);
Series three -- Felix Jones rushes on 1st down for 4 yards. Romo sacked on next play and fumbles;
Series four -- Dallas takes the field here down 17-0 with 10:44 left and doesn't call another run.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

because in his mind, he's still a quarterback. And every quarterback thinks that they can make the play with their arm.

Good Point. I feel so sorry for Romo because the Quarterbacks that's teaching him which is Jason Garrett, and Wade Wilson who both was back ups and they both trying to teach a starter in Romo. But you have to ask yourself, why Jason Garrett was never a starter in the NFL, and really what can he really teach Romo but failure. Why do I say that?

For example, it's like trying to get Danny White or Jamarcus Russell to teach Tom Brady or a Peyton Manning the finer points at being a Quarterback or how to manage a offense. It's like Romo reached higher limits in one year than Jason Garrett and Wade Wilson reached together in a career. What can they really teach Romo?

Atleast if Jerry is going to bring a offensive cordinator or Quarterback coach, bring one in with some success with working with Quarterbacks and offense. Let me give you an example of a coach that has success with his position every where he goes, Ray Sherman. Dave Campo. Joe. D.

I feel as if Jason Garrett and Wade Wilson is the cheapest options out there so Cowboys just simply went cheap and got these two. But now, Cowboys need to move further along with this process at developing possibly the face of the franchise in Romo by getting a real offensive cordinator and quarterback coach.

 

[Ren]

1st and goal on the 1... and we're passing the ball... Why?

Our redzone offense has sucked all year because we refuse to run it in the redzone. This just didn't make sense at all.

Garrett plays fantasy football, drafted Romo and needed the points? :bang2:

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Garrett plays fantasy football, drafted Romo and needed the points? :bang2:

If you wasn't right about what you said, I sure was fooled by the play calling today.:bang2:

 

[Idgit]

How dumb our our fans, blaming the OC for the lack of offensive production today? Seriously?

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Tecmo needs to put down the freaking Playstation controller and get his head in the game.

Seriously, the game looked like it was being called by somebody playing Madden. We had like 85% pass plays on the road???

W T F ????

GOOD POINT:bang2:

 

[RealCowboyfan]

How dumb our our fans, blaming the OC for the lack of offensive production today? Seriously?

Did you look at the same game, the Cowboys fans looked at today?

 

[craig71]

Good Point. I feel so sorry for Romo because the Quarterbacks that's teaching him which is Jason Garrett, and Wade Wilson who both was back ups and they both trying to teach a starter in Romo. But you have to ask yourself, why Jason Garrett was never a starter in the NFL, and really what can he really teach Romo but failure. Why do I say that?

For example, it's like trying to get Danny White or Jamarcus Russell to teach Tom Brady or a Peyton Manning the finer points at being a Quarterback or how to manage a offense. It's like Romo reached higher limits in one year than Jason Garrett and Wade Wilson reached together in a career. What can they really teach Romo?

Atleast if Jerry is going to bring a offensive cordinator or Quarterback coach, bring one in with some success with working with Quarterbacks and offense. Let me give you an example of a coach that has success with his position every where he goes, Ray Sherman. Dave Campo. Joe. D.

I feel as if Jason Garrett and Wade Wilson is the cheapest options out there so Cowboys just simply went cheap and got these two. But now, Cowboys need to move further along with this process at developing possibly the face of the franchise in Romo.

Jason Garrett has seen more success as a career back up than Romo has seen at this point in his career.Garrett does have a couple of rings to display,how many playoff victories does Romo have.Garrett never had the physical tools to a full time starter but he does know how to play the position.

Craig

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Well, I guess Jason Garrett and Wade Wilson will be the scapegoats this season.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't get the point of this post

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

Mind-boggling and frustrating.

We have three good/great backs but we act like we don't have any.

It gets sssooo, ssssooo frustrating.

You defense is playing lights out for most of the game. You're in a hostile environment. The Packers are blitzing.

Why not try to line up and rely on your big guys to create holes? Why not use these three terrific backs we have?

I just can't understand it.

Seriously. Jason Garrett needs to take a HUGE amount of heat in the coming week.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

I don't get the point of this post

Ok, I guess you didn't get the real point of why we lost?

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Seriously. Jason Garrett needs to take a HUGE amount of heat in the coming week.

Good Point:starspin

 

[Idgit]

Did you look at the same game, the Cowboys fans looked at today?

If you define 'Cowboys fans' as the gang of shrill, butthurt, childish whiners that are complaining about coordinating when the problem on offense was clearly with the players' execution, then, yes.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Jason Garrett has seen more success as a career back up than Romo has seen at this point in his career.Garrett does have a couple of rings to display,how many playoff victories does Romo have.Garrett never had the physical tools to a full time starter but he does know how to play the position.

Craig

If that was true, Matt Cassell knows how to play the position. If that's true Trent Dilfer knows how to play the position. It doesn't matter whether he knew or know how to play the position, his jobs is to keep the offense in tact and stay consistent with game-winning play calls which keeps the defense off the field as long as possible by working the ball down field.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

If you define 'Cowboys fans' as the gang of shrill, butthurt, childish whiners that are complaining about coordinating when the problem on offense was clearly with the players' execution, then, yes.

I guess that's majority of the whole board including myself.