The Mega Jerry/Garrett/Coach/Front-Office Bashing Thread **merged**

[coult44]

If Garrett goes off and wins a SB with another team it will prove it's the culture of this franchise that is responsible for all the mediocrity.

Only as an assistant. He'll never get another HC job. He's the QC of the coaching world. Only in JJ's world is he worth anything.

 

[rpntex]

Change is needed in this team in a big bad way. Garrett would be a good coach if he has the ability to make the proper changes to win games. Thats the problem here. If we want immediate change without having to dump Garrett then its all up to him. He should dump the playbook. Get rid of it and go with what got us in the playoffs lastyear.

Don't they have a copy of Callahan's playbook lying around? I frankly, think that we messed up by not resigning Callahan. I also think this started when they let Murray leave so easily. Last years team was a close knit group and felt like it was family. We are no longer that team and it started for letting Murray leave so easily and everything went downhill from then on.

Thus this is the fault of the FO. It could have been avoided if they just took the necessary steps to keep this team intact. But they didn't. Thus the team is unraveling before our eyes.

Uh, Callahan left by HIS choice. It ain't a case of Dallas not resigning him. He left of his own volition.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Uh, Callahan left by HIS choice. It ain't a case of Dallas not resigning him. He left of his own volition.

He left because we drove him out and didn't want to be here. We didn't treat him with the respect that he deserved and actually took less money to go to a team with a losing record - even taking a demotion from playercaller to oline coach.

The Cowboys had all year to patch up their relationship with Callahan. He didn't see eye to eye with Garrett and that was the reason why he left this team so easily. I would to if I was him. Why stay in a place where your not wanted and appreciated?

 

[black label]

You're becoming one of my favorite posters. Not sure I'd tell anyone that though.

 

[Aven8]

He left because we drove him out and didn't want to be here. We didn't treat him with the respect that he deserved and actually took less money to go to a team with a losing record - even taking a demotion from playercaller to oline coach.

The Cowboys had all year to patch up their relationship with Callahan. He didn't see eye to eye with Garrett and that was the reason why he left this team so easily. I would to if I was him. Why stay in a place where your not wanted and appreciated?

It's probably because Cally trashed JG's offense and said it's not 1994 anymore, and JG got mad!

 

[PAINFROMUKRAINE]

It's probably because Cally trashed JG's offense and said it's not 1994 anymore, and JG got mad!

Garrett just could not handle the Truth!

 

[khiladi]

Uh, Callahan left by HIS choice. It ain't a case of Dallas not resigning him. He left of his own volition.

He left by his choice after he was insulted by this franchise, tolerating JGs meddling the year he was actually suppose to call plays. He actually wanted to leave the year prior, but the Jones family didn't let him interview for OC positions because of his contract. Jerry and Stephen admitted it.

He wouldn't even be in Washington if he got an OC job because of interview the year prior.

 

[EST_1986]

DEZ CAUGHT IT

 

[khiladi]

It's probably because Cally trashed JG's offense and said it's not 1994 anymore, and JG got mad!

That is clearly what he was doing and it's alluded to in Jerry's statements after that season. He basically said Jason kept interfering and was effectively the play-called and it wasn't fair to Callahan, because it wasn't the type of offense he came from. It's clear Callahan was changing the approach of this offense and Garrett was trying to prevent it. And then Jerry, in order to reconcile the issue, in the off-season, got Linehan who coaches a similar offense as Garrett.

But this is also implicit admittance that Jerry tolerates the meddling of guys like Jason Garrett. So why complain that Jerry meddles with Jason, when Jason meddles with whoever is brought on to help this team, after Jason has shown he sucks at performing that particular job?

This was also the same season, after JG took the head-sets that you had Witten and Romo yelling at Garrett on the sidelines. I'm sure this was partly the reason Jerry actually removed Jason completely from the equation last year, because his star QB was having enough of it.

Look, we put up close to fifty points against Denver, primarily on Dez's drag route, a route which was clearly introduced by Callahan, not Garrett. A route that has once again disappeared from this playbook.

 

[Redball Express]

I agree, the jones boys tried to go cheap, and be smart and fix a good thing.
They thought any RB would do, and randle would do just fine, and they let others go like moore who just shut down dez, and durant,carter and others
who were getting the turnovers.
They thought weeden was a good bkup too.

Unfortunately..

I think its the old latent mentality of this Franchise that like with the letting go of Jimmy Johnson..

500 coaches could win with the 90's team and that was wrong.

Same thing here ..arrogence and a little success convinced the brain trust that any RB'S could duplicate what Murray did behind their OL

and they couldn't have been more wrong.

It took career years from Murray Dez and Romo to get the team where it was.

Not likely to happen again.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

I just wanted to say, JG can go back to grinning, staring off into oblivion and clapping. I dont need him screwing up Tony's mojo.

 

[plasticman]

The following flowchart will dramatically improve Jerry Jones's probability of success:

1. Fire the current GM.
2. Hire a legitimate GM with league recognized credentials.
3. Just shut up and sign checks.
4. If Cowboys win a Super Bowl then proceed to stage, give a very short speech thanking fans, team and coaches.
5. If Cowboys do not go to a Super Bowl in 5 years then go to step #1.
6. Go to step #3.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

The following flowchart will dramatically improve Jerry Jones's probability of success:

1. Fire the current GM.
2. Hire a legitimate GM with league recognized credentials.
3. Just shut up and sign checks.
4. If Cowboys win a Super Bowl then proceed to stage, give a very short speech thanking fans, team and coaches.
5. If Cowboys do not go to a Super Bowl in 5 years then go to step #1.
6. Go to step #3.

Your flowchart is way to complicated.

#1. Does the team suck? If yes go to #2, If no go to #2
#2. Jerry Jones is in charge, go to #1

 

[LucaBrasi]

Wait, I thought Callahan left (after 2014) because he was demoted after the 2013 season when 1) the offense statistically was the worst it had been in the Romo era with him calling plays and 2) Garrett was able to hire a guy he wanted in Scott Linehan.

rip JG if you must, but please lets not rip him over Bill Callahan, offensive coordinator. Callahan is a fine o-line coach, but is he calling plays in Washington?

 

[Redball Express]

Wait, I thought Callahan left (after 2014) because he was demoted after the 2013 season when 1) the offense statistically was the worst it had been in the Romo era with him calling plays and 2) Garrett was able to hire a guy he wanted in Scott Linehan.

rip JG if you must, but please lets not rip him over Bill Callahan, offensive coordinator. Callahan is a fine o-line coach, but is he calling plays in Washington?

Well..

I'm guessing Callahan is calling something..

it's what he wanted after Garrett stepped aside and Linehan took the job.

In case you haven't noticed..the Skins offense has improved bunches.

Their OL is certainly part of the reason.

We see as we get two shots at them and a loss in either game would pretty much end things for us.

 

[ConstantReboot]

That is clearly what he was doing and it's alluded to in Jerry's statements after that season. He basically said Jason kept interfering and was effectively the play-called and it wasn't fair to Callahan, because it wasn't the type of offense he came from. It's clear Callahan was changing the approach of this offense and Garrett was trying to prevent it. And then Jerry, in order to reconcile the issue, in the off-season, got Linehan who coaches a similar offense as Garrett.

But this is also implicit admittance that Jerry tolerates the meddling of guys like Jason Garrett. So why complain that Jerry meddles with Jason, when Jason meddles with whoever is brought on to help this team, after Jason has shown he sucks at performing that particular job?

This was also the same season, after JG took the head-sets that you had Witten and Romo yelling at Garrett on the sidelines. I'm sure this was partly the reason Jerry actually removed Jason completely from the equation last year, because his star QB was having enough of it.

Look, we put up close to fifty points against Denver, primarily on Dez's drag route, a route which was clearly introduced by Callahan, not Garrett. A route that has once again disappeared from this playbook.

Thus Garrett stubbornness is killing this team. It was obvious last year that we used a lot of plays from callahan's playbook that was the reason why we were successful. There is no reason for us to lose games. If only we dump Garrett's playbook for this offense and go entirely something different. That is what is holding this team back.

Callahan leaves and it's back to square one with the same predictable plays. It's not that the offense is terrible. It's the playbook. Garrett really should not be coaching at all with the results he's brought to Dallas.

 

[rpntex]

He left by his choice after he was insulted by this franchise, tolerating JGs meddling the year he was actually suppose to call plays. He actually wanted to leave the year prior, but the Jones family didn't let him interview for OC positions because of his contract. Jerry and Stephen admitted it.

He wouldn't even be in Washington if he got an OC job because of interview the year prior.

There is some truth to what you posted. He wasn't released from his contract following the 2013 season. Unfortunately (for him) that his employer's prerogative, and it happens from time-to-time in the NFL. Until the NFL redefines the title of OC to be a promotion over a typlical assistant position, it's going ot remain somewhat common.

As for your comment regarding any "meddling"...have any proof of that? Unless you're referring to the change in how play calls were "routed" after the bye that season, there was no evidence of Garrett's involvement anymore than a typical head coiach gets involved with his offense. And if it is that change in the routing that you're citing as meddling, I'd argue that Callahan's play-calling wasn't being very productive.

Before the change (20 games)...
Rushing yards - 77.0 yard per game
Passing yards - 240.8 YPG
Total yards - 317.8 YPG

After the change
Rushing yards - 122.3 yard per game
Passing yards - 239.8 YPG
Total yards - 362.1 YPG

Clearly, the change made a difference, especially in terms of running the ball.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Move the cowboys to Los Angeles. Maybe that will help

 

[65fastback2plus2]

There is some truth to what you posted. He wasn't released from his contract following the 2013 season. Unfortunately (for him) that his employer's prerogative, and it happens from time-to-time in the NFL. Until the NFL redefines the title of OC to be a promotion over a typlical assistant position, it's going ot remain somewhat common.

As for your comment regarding any "meddling"...have any proof of that? Unless you're referring to the change in how play calls were "routed" after the bye that season, there was no evidence of Garrett's involvement anymore than a typical head coiach gets involved with his offense. And if it is that change in the routing that you're citing as meddling, I'd argue that Callahan's play-calling wasn't being very productive.

Before the change (20 games)...
Rushing yards - 77.0 yard per game
Passing yards - 240.8 YPG
Total yards - 317.8 YPG

After the change
Rushing yards - 122.3 yard per game
Passing yards - 239.8 YPG
Total yards - 362.1 YPG

Clearly, the change made a difference, especially in terms of running the ball.

was gonna say, has this place gone crazy enough we were wanting callahan back running the offense?! sheesh. people get drunk too easily.

 

[rpntex]

was gonna say, has this place gone crazy enough we were wanting callahan back running the offense?! sheesh. people get drunk too easily.

I'll be the first to say that Callahan was an excellent OL coach, and we benefitted from his expertise. As an offensive coordinator, however, he was an excellent OL coach.